Aftermath of the Zimmerman trial

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cruiser Posted - 7/16/2013 12:12:36 PM | show profile | flag this post

Drudge headlines this morning:

SHARPTON PLANS PROTESTS IN 100 CITIES...
Rally Shuts Down Major Intersection In Newark...
Baltimore Witness: Group of Blacks Beat Hispanic Man, Yelling 'This Is For Trayvon'...
White jogger beaten...
Protesters storm WALMART...
Soul singer attacked after dedicating song to Trayvon...
Zimmerman's Parents in Hiding from 'Enormous Amount of Death Threats'...
Oakland: Police Stood Down As 'Protesters' Terrorized Drivers...
Verdict unleashed pent up rage...

http://drudgereport.com/

Don't they realize that this kind of agitation, violence, threats, etc., are what make/keep other Americans fearful and suspicious?

mpdodgson Posted - 7/16/2013 1:00:58 PM | show profile | flag this post

Gee you're dumb.

In the Zimmerman thread you say "Unfortunately, even though the verdict has been rendered, the left wing won't let it be over." But here you are, starting still another thread, about the trial, citing the [?Left Wing?] Drudge??? Brietbart, InfoWars, and even Fox are still full of of verdict aftermath too. Those lefties.

Even though I may think it was a huge vaild newsworthy story (a few differences between my friend orthicon and I on that one), Enough is Enough. Unless there is a major development (DOJ and/or family files suit, deadly riot, etc) there's nothing left here to debate ad nauseum. The verdict is the verdict.

"Don't they realize..." Oh. You mean like rightwing websites and people like you?

cruiser Posted - 7/16/2013 1:12:16 PM | show profile | flag this post

"Gee you're dumb"

This is the kind of shit with which you...and many of your left wing brethren...start almost every post.

I've tried to limit/eliminate my use of ad hominem on here. Where are you?

Oh yeah...you are philosophically one with those who keep on agitating after the verdict.

it's just tv folks Posted - 7/16/2013 1:23:51 PM | show profile | flag this post

Let's not forget stormfront putting out these "stories"

I'm surprised the 2oldcruztwit listed the woman who attacked blues legend Lester Chambers.

"According to witnesses, during a performance at the Hayward Russell City Blues Festival on Saturday, Chambers dedicated Curtis Mayfield’s “People Get Ready” to Martin. While he sung, a woman leapt onto the stage and attacked the 73-year-old singer. Several band members and fans tackled the woman and made a citizen’s arrest.

Chambers was taken to the hospital. He suffered bruises on his ribs and all over his body and is forced to walk with a cane."

http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2013/07/16/bay-area-musician-attacked-after-dedicating-song-to-trayvon-martin/


it's just tv folks Posted - 7/16/2013 1:30:35 PM | show profile | flag this post

There is video of the attack in the link I provided above.

etaoin shrdlu Posted - 7/16/2013 2:09:22 PM | show profile | flag this post

Drudge is just stirring the pot, cruzo...

hoping, like the rest of the right wing, for racial violence.

But it just isn't happening.

What we ARE seeing is peaceful protests -- you know, like you claim the TEA Party protests were.

We ARE seeing attempts by right wingers to plant false stories of racial violence -- even posting video from Canadian hockey riots as race riots in Miami: http://o.canada.com/2013/07/14/miami-riots-not-real/

More false stories: http://www.salon.com/2013/07/16/new_trayvon_lie_media_lapd_falsely_report_rowdy_protests/



cruiser Posted - 7/16/2013 2:15:35 PM | show profile | flag this post

I live about 20 miles from Oakland

There WERE fires; there WAS a police car vandalized; there WAS other damage and more incidents.

Now tell me again how peaceful the "demonstrations" were?

You people...no, deniers...need to get a grip on reality.

Grateful Deadline Posted - 7/16/2013 2:42:29 PM | show profile | flag this post

For us, the world is bigger than 20 miles from Oakland.

etaoin shrdlu Posted - 7/16/2013 3:04:33 PM | show profile | flag this post

And cruzo likely had to depend on Brietbart...

to tell him what was going on in Oakland because 20 miles is a heck of a long drive on a Rascal.

Besides, I didn't know Oakland even HAD a hockey team!


newscred Posted - 7/16/2013 3:13:26 PM | show profile | flag this post

Frustrated

It bothers me that the AG of this country says, in essence, that the federal government is not going to let this go. Even though the FBI already found there was no reason to charge this as a hate crime, the AG in his biased running of our justice department has decided to push for more charges.

By the way, when a minority is in an altercation with a caucasian there's an automatic rush to call it a hate crime. Why not when it's a minority attacking a caucasian. I know your answer, it's because so many caucasians attack minorities; or so the media and liberals have you believe. By the way -- and I have no source for this number, yet -- but I've heard that close to 92% of all shootings (and I would presume other attacks) against african-american's are perpetrated by other african-americans. So when a Martin-Zimmerman incident happens why is it assumed the non african-american attacked the african-american. It seems like the media and activists simply want to perpetuate the idea that blacks are being constantly attacked by whites, which is patently untrue.

cruster Posted - 7/16/2013 4:23:32 PM | show profile | flag this post

"Don't they realize"

And we know who "they" are, right cruiser.



orthicon Posted - 7/16/2013 4:47:22 PM | show profile | flag this post

two things here..

1- if cruiztwit were being honest, which he is NOT, he'd also admit that crap like that happens about every other Friday night in Oakland, and has for decades..

and saying the investigation by the justice department is still ongoing is a LONG day's ride from saying charges will be filed..

they won't be...

cruiser Posted - 7/16/2013 5:25:40 PM | show profile | flag this post

Not true at all

On Friday nights there are often several shootings resulting in a few deaths...and that happens EVERY Friday night (and often other nights as well)...but fires, vandalism, etc.,...no. Those seem to be reserved for "special" occasions.

The way I interpreted Holder's recent remarks, to me he was indeed pushing for a civil rights case. But even if he currently is not, people like Ben Jealous, Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson and other black instigators will force him into it.

orthicon Posted - 7/16/2013 6:10:59 PM | show profile | flag this post

no, they won't.. for one simple reason..

holder and his people are smart enough to realize that any civil rights cased filed will immediately die..

because they have absolutely NO way to prove it..no matter what the pressure groups say..

barack Obama's a pretty smart lawyer, too..(not that that matters, of course..)

Village Gal Posted - 7/16/2013 6:25:19 PM | show profile | flag this post

Newscred writes " By the way, when a minority is in an altercation with a caucasian". what a strange phrasing for the year 2013..I don't know where you live, but in NYC, white people ARE the minority
I think that will be the case for the rest of the counrty inthe future.
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cruster Posted - 7/16/2013 8:19:40 PM | show profile | flag this post

"but fires, vandalism" and "special occasions"

By "those" people.

cruiser, show us your true courage and just use the N-word as you have before.

It's not like you're a racist, right?

You just know what "they" are up to.




mpdodgson Posted - 7/16/2013 9:29:49 PM | show profile | flag this post

A few comments

newscred? "the AG of this country says, in essence, that the federal government is not going to let this go" No...that's not what he's saying at all. The DOJ has a responsibility to look into the possibility of hate crimes. Black/White/Religious, whatever. "the AG in his biased running of our justice department has decided to push for more charges" Really?!?! Must have missed that....

Also, it cracked me up how cruiser casually mentioned "On Friday nights there are often several shootings resulting in a few deaths..."
But...Hey...what's a few more shooting deaths? these are just people exercising their 2nd Amend Rights donchaknow...it's when those blacks (or N-Words as cruise has called them), when they vandalize something--That's WAY over the line...

Another thing; if civil rights leaders--who just won't let this drop--are "black instigators"--does that make cruise a "white instigator" because he just can't shut up about it and even starts a new thread?

Also; if you saw the JurorB37 interview, did it bother anyone else that she kept saying things like "George said" and "George believed" and "George's rendition..."even though he never testified??
And..."I think he just didn't know when to stop. He was frustrated and things just got out of hand," Why isn't that manslaughter???

Oh well. The jury system is what we have, and as I said, i think the Prosecution stunk.

cruiser Posted - 7/16/2013 10:14:23 PM | show profile | flag this post

I'm going to miss arguing with you

bur I just can no longer take you seriously. With you it's all imperious exaggeration and hyperbole...and some off-the-wall crap that allows you to convince yourself you "won" the point.

mpdodgson Posted - 7/17/2013 7:59:09 AM | show profile | flag this post

cruise; upon reflection

(and with morning coffee) I looked back at what I wrote last night. They were a couple of snarky cheap shots fired right at ya that added nothing to the discussion.

Please accept my sincere apology.

Village Gal Posted - 7/17/2013 7:59:39 AM | show profile | flag this post

how did she get on the jury?

Juror B37 also said (about Martin) , 'I think it's just the everyday life, the type of life they live, and how they're living, in the environment that they're living in."

wow= what a racist stereotype about African Americans


con Posted - 7/17/2013 9:39:29 AM | show profile | flag this post

"did it bother anyone else that she kept saying things like "George said" and "George believed" and "George's rendition..."even though he never testified??"

george in effect did testified via all the interviews the prosecutor played in front of the jury.

" What we ARE seeing is peaceful protests"

we're also seeing obama's sons attacking whites and hispanics.

village gal, why are you so racially obsessed? who cares about the racial make up of nyc or any city?

angel jeantel tells us gay panic may have played a part in the st. trayvon/zimmerman confrontation. village gal, how do you about angel jeantel promoting stereotypes about gay males?

see piers morgan interview..

also, the liberal media continues to excuse and give angel jeantel a pass on her use of racial slurs.

but hey, what liberal media?



cruiser Posted - 7/17/2013 10:06:24 AM | show profile | flag this post

"sincere apology"

conditionally accepted.

cruiser Posted - 7/17/2013 10:12:53 AM | show profile | flag this post

"i think the Prosecution stunk"

It seems to be the consensus of the TV legal anaysts that the prosecution did the best they could with what they had...which was nothing.

There is an old lawyers' axiom that goes: "If you don't have the facts on your side, argue the law. If you don't have the law on your side, argue the facts."

Angela Corey and her hit men had neither.

cruiser Posted - 7/17/2013 10:46:57 AM | show profile | flag this post

Florida blacks benefit disproportionately

from the Stand Your Ground law.

http://dailycaller.com/2013/07/16/blacks-benefit-from-florida-stand-your-ground-law-at-disproportionate-rate/

But I doubt the agitators will accept that. I think they believe they've found a hook on which to hang their continued agitation.

beenthere Posted - 7/17/2013 3:59:19 PM | show profile | flag this post

Re newscred's comment:

By the way -- and I have no source for this number, yet -- but I've heard that close to 92% of all shootings (and I would presume other attacks) against african-american's are perpetrated by other african-americans.
____

Here's the stat:

From the US Dept. of Justice report, “Homicide Trends in the United States, 1980-2008, page 13:

“From 1980 through 2008—93% of black victims were killed by blacks.”

93%

If that isn't a head scratcher, I don't know what is. Where is the outrage regarding black on black killings? Do black lives only matter if they are taken by Hispanics? Where is the MEDIA OUTRAGE??

(shaking head)




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