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Americans See GOP as "Extreme"
Posted - 12/20/2012 2:12:17 PM | show profile | flag this post
"A new CNN/ORC poll finds a slight majority of Americans sees the Republican party's policies and views as too extreme, 53% to 37%, a first for the GOP."
Posted - 12/20/2012 4:58:56 PM | show profile | flag this post
Gee, I wonder if that's in any way connected to
the dishonest left wing media's constant drumbeat that the GOP's views are "exrreme."
Posted - 12/20/2012 6:59:16 PM | show profile | flag this post
Yea. That's it. The Librul Media.
"An Indiana man convicted of setting fire to a mosque in Ohio told a judge on Wednesday that he committed the crimes because Fox News and conservative talk radio had convinced him that "most Muslims are terrorists."
Randolph Linn, 52, accepted a plea deal in which he pled guilty to all charges in connection to setting a fire in the prayer room at the Islamic Center of Greater Toledo on Sept. 30. Under the deal, Linn is expected to serve 20 years in prison instead of 40.
Linn explained to the court that he had gotten "riled up" after watching Fox News.
"And I was more sad when Judge [Jack] Zouhary asked him that, 'Do you know any Muslims or do you know what Islam is?'" one mosque member who attended the hearing recalled to WNWO. "And he said, 'No, I only know what I hear on Fox News and what I hear on radio.'"
"Muslims are killing Americans and trying to blow stuff up," Linn also reportedly told the judge. "Most Muslims are terrorists and don't believe in Jesus Christ."
Linn claimed that he had consumed 45 beers in the 6 hours before leaving his Indiana home to set fire to the mosque, which he had discovered while working as a truck driver.
After his arrest on Oct. 2, Assistant U.S. Attorney Ava Dusten said that Linn had told officers, "Fuck those Muslims... They would kill us if they got the chance."
Linn is due back in court on April 16, 2013 for a formal sentencing.
A survey released by Fairleigh Dickinson University earlier this year determined that Fox News viewers were actually less informed that Americans who watched no news at all. In fact, at least seven studies in recent years have confirmed that Fox News viewers are more likely to be misinformed than other Americans."
Posted - 12/20/2012 10:43:13 PM | show profile | flag this post
Your attempt to change the subject failed miserably.
My assertion was that a principal reason the unwashed public calls the GOP extreme is because that's pretty much all they hear from the left wing media.
As Goebbels said (in words of substance), tell a lie big enough and repeat it often and soon the public will believe it.
In fact, it is YOUR president who's the extremist...he insists on tax hikes on Americans but refuses to cut ANY spending...and threatens to veto the GOP's compromise measure. HE'S the one driving us over the fiscal cliff.
Posted - 12/20/2012 10:53:59 PM | show profile | flag this post
It's the freakin' reakin' platform of the Republican Party
...that makes me think it's extreme.
It. IS. Extreme.
And cruiser, you're proof. 'nuff said.
Posted - 12/20/2012 11:03:08 PM | show profile | flag this post
Update: Talk about FAIL
House GOP calls off vote on 'Plan B' bill-- Republican leaders say they do not have support to pass backup legislation to avert the "fiscal cliff." The House abruptly recesses for the Christmas holiday.
Boehner apparently is too extreme for his his own friggin Party. How's that fit into your narrative??
"So, there you have it: John Boehner proposed his notorious Plan B—the "morning after bill," as one wit on Twitter put it—a piece of legislation that was so loontastically wingnutty that the Democratic Senate declared it dead on arrival. And yet despite catering to the extreme base of his party, what happened?"
"He just didn't have the votes. John Boehner, who custom-wrote this ridiculous Plan B, couldn't even get it past his own caucus. Republicans have given birth to a monster—and it's themselves.
Accustomed to getting everything they want out of Democrats by acting like petulant babies, the dystopians in the far, far right corner of the GOP turned that same shtick on their own leader and have reduced him to his now-routine tears, just as they did during the fight over the debt ceiling last year.
So where to next? It could get bloody. The simplest option would just be to pass a bill acceptable to a majority of Democrats and a (probably small) minority of Republicans—what few "mainstream," big business-type Republicans still loyal to Boehner are left. But that would mean the end of Boehner's speakership, as the rest of the GOP—remember, it would be the majority of the GOP left out in the cold here—would be enraged and could simply depose him ... and pick Eric Cantor as their new leader instead." (David Nir)
So....Boehner can't herd his own cats. And I'm sure that's Obama's fault.
Posted - 12/20/2012 11:07:17 PM | show profile | flag this post
i wouldn't be at all surprised if eric cantor..
didn't go behind boehner's back and torpedo the plan
he wants to be speaker so badly he drools on himself..
Posted - 12/21/2012 8:09:54 AM | show profile | flag this post
oh here we go again with that YOUR president crap from
cruising. wrong...Barack Obama is the POTUS. If cruising
feels that strongly, maybe be should leave the USA. But that won't happen. He needs to stay and defend his gun collection.
Posted - 12/21/2012 9:02:58 AM | show profile | flag this post
If the media...
just wouldn't use direct quotes from Republicans, and quit covering GOP policies, people wouldn't think they're so extreme.
The biggest story missed by the mainstream media in the past year -- according to centrists Thomas Mann and Norm Orstein -- was the GOP's detatchment from reality.
They both say it was an appearance of balance to help the GOP look more mainstream -- while ignoring the rightward lurch the party took and it reliance on outright lies and fantasy in shaping campaigns and policy.
--We had a very different dynamic in our politics over the last four years than we'd seen before," Ornstein said of the GOP's intransigence. "We've simply seen a significant failure, and I think it's a systematic one on the part of mainstream media
because they hate to be accused of bias. So how do you avoid being accused of bias? You treat everyone as if they're all the same, and you bring them on in equal numbers."
Conservatives will likely blame the messenger rather than looking inward at ways to save their party.
That only shows how increasingly out of touch the GOP is becoming with both the American people and reality.
Posted - 12/21/2012 11:01:34 AM | show profile | flag this post
A second poll reflects the CNN/ORC survey...
"A new Washington Post-ABC News poll finds it's the Republican party's message that appears to be the problem, not the messengers who are delivering it.
"Key findings: 53% of Americans say the GOP's problem is that they are overly conservative and unconcerned "with the welfare of the people, particularly those in the lower and middle income levels." By contrast, just 38% say the bigger issue is that Republicans 'need a better leader to explain and win support' for their policies."
Posted - 12/21/2012 1:10:06 PM | show profile | flag this post
As long as the left wing media water carriers
will not accurately report the GOP position, we will continue to see the public's false impression.
Yes, the Republican party is in transition. In the years since Reagan, it has lost its way and many of the so-called "establishment" Republicans have drifted too far to the left. Along with that, many of them have established such cozy relationships with industries and businesses that are not in conformity with pure Constitutional principles and are favoring corporate entities instead of the masses.
The tea party movement is attempting to right the ship along with reducing the size of government...and, therefore, taxes. Such reductions would be in the best interest of EVERY American.
Posted - 12/21/2012 1:17:32 PM | show profile | flag this post
Let's take a look...
At the fiscal "responsibility" of repub presidents...Start with Reagan...promised to balance the budget within four years, complaining about Carter's "huge" deficits. When Reagan left office, had the highest deficits in U.S. history. George HW Bush tried the "no new taxes" thing and it got him kicked out of office when he had to raise them to try to pay off Reagan's debts...Then we get W, the worst president in U.S. history. Starts with a surplus, then gives tax cuts to the wealthy and starts two wars (off budget) that bankrupt the country. Of course, now that Obama is in power, the deficits are all his fault. Even though his spending is at the slowest rate since Eisenhower, they blame him for the deficits created when he was at least honest enough to put the wars on budget. So there ya go...those are called facts. Let's see cruiser refute that with something other than "you missed the point", "it's the liberal media" or "quit changing the subject"...Let's see a rebuttal of what I said and only what I said...betcha can't do it...
Posted - 12/21/2012 1:33:32 PM | show profile | flag this post
"As long as the left wing media water carriers"
"will not accurately report the GOP position, we will continue to see the public's false impression."
Yea. That thing called "videotape" will get you every time. When you WATCH idiots like Walsh, West, Bachmann, Santorum, Akin, Mourdoch say incredibly stupid things--it must be some sort of special effects trick. When you WATCH Romney and his "47%" and his multitude of flip-flops?? It's an actor, right?
When you READ the GOP Platform, and see they want a Const Amendment banning Gay Marriage; No abortion under any circumstances; NO legislation "limiting the capacity of clips or magazines or otherwise restoring the assault weapons ban passed during the Clinton presidency."; Turning medicare into a voucher system, etc etc All that MUST be a collection of mis-prints the press fell for.
The history books must be wrong--we did NOT have a war hero like McCain and a successful businessman like Romney go down in flames against a skinny black kid from Chicago. Surely the media made that up.
Take a pill.
Posted - 12/21/2012 1:47:18 PM | show profile | flag this post
Predictably...since the left wingers here can't
refute what I posted...they change the subject and go off on non-responsive flights of fancy.
Posted - 12/21/2012 2:13:38 PM | show profile | flag this post
YOU tried to change the subject.
The subject is that the GOP's policies and message have made them too extreme for the American people.
And, in another thread, I backed it up with a quote from a REPUBLICAN Congress critter talking about the failure of "Plan B."
"It weakens the entire Republican Party, the Republican majority. It's the continuing dumbing-down of the Republican Party and we are going to be seen more and more as a bunch of extremists that can't even get a majority of our own people to support policies that we're putting forward."
-- Rep. Steven LaTourette (R-OH), quoted by Roll Call, on the failure of House Speaker John Boehner's "Plan B" to avoid the fiscal cliff.
And I backed it up with a SECOND survey backing up the first:
A new Washington Post-ABC News poll finds it's the Republican party's message that appears to be the problem, not the messengers who are delivering it.
Key findings: 53% of Americans say the GOP's problem is that they are overly conservative and unconcerned "with the welfare of the people, particularly those in the lower and middle income levels." By contrast, just 38% say the bigger issue is that Republicans "need a better leader to explain and win support" for their policies.
YOU, cruzo, are part of the reason your party is in such bad shape right now.
But go ahead, stick your head in the sand, stand up like 'Lil Wayne Lepierre and blame the media instead of your own failed policies and message.
It's only benefiting the Democrats.
Posted - 12/21/2012 3:06:56 PM | show profile | flag this post
just plain wrong. Nothing else need be said.
Posted - 12/21/2012 3:36:16 PM | show profile | flag this post
Comments from the rank and file GOP.
Two polls that show the GOP is too extreme.
They must be skewed.
Just like those polls before the election.
How's that Romney landslide working out for you?
Keep your head in the sand.
You, and other Republicans like you, are the best thing the Democratic Party has going for it in 2014!
Posted - 12/21/2012 3:37:29 PM | show profile | flag this post
The GOP has lost
5 out of the last 6 Popular votes for the Presidency. But that is the media's fault?? Voters watching the Repub candidates in all their glorious ignorance and prejudice--Voters reading that extreme platform--that's the media's fault??
It's not just the "personalities" of the GOP characters (though that's enough), it's how they manage to alienate people that get them into trouble. Pick an issue. Immigration?? George Bush told his own party they should be more moderate on that...but No.... When you're dumber than Dubya on an issue, there's something definitely wrong.
Gay Rights. When you're farther to the right than Dick Cheney on an issue, there's something definitely wrong.
Abortion. (Paul Begala wrote): " I am not advising the Republicans to become the party of abortion rights. There is a large pro-life constituency in America, and I would not counsel the GOP to abandon it.
But, guys (and they are all guys)—please, stop talking about rape. Just stop. Now. Women voters have a way of shutting down when balding, sanctimonious men minimize the issue of rape. Same with contraception: stop denigrating something 98 percent of Americans use. It was shocking when Rush Limbaugh smeared a Georgetown law student for supporting insurance coverage for contraception. It was shameful when Mitt Romney and other alleged Republican leaders lacked the guts to condemn him."
The GOP wants "less Government"--and here are our proposed Const Amendments to prove it! Okee-dokee.
I know I know...polls don't count--unless they're your polls (Romney & Rove proved that). Election results don't matter either--what do you expect from the quote, "the unwashed public"?? All they do is elect "Your President". And videotape and actual quotes?? Well that's just a lamestream media trick.
Watching Boehner implode--thanks to the 'extreme' elements in his own party--Just the latest example of librul media distorting things. Donchaknow.
Posted - 12/21/2012 3:48:17 PM | show profile | flag this post
Boehner is the extreme
The party is moving back toward Reagan conservatism and away from the cozy deals Republican congress members have with busineses and special interests. Thank the tea party movement for that.