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| cdnreprtr |
Posted - 10/16/2012 4:28:03 PM | show profile | flag this post
... 'cause of The Ghays.
More libril indoctrination I guess.. having a cheerleader sit with a special needs kid ..
From NYT.
"Christian Group Finds Gay Agenda in an Anti-Bullying Day
On Mix It Up at Lunch Day, schoolchildren around the country are encouraged to hang out with someone they normally might not speak to.
The program, started 11 years ago by the Southern Poverty Law Center and now in more than 2,500 schools, was intended as a way to break up cliques and prevent bullying.
But this year, the American Family Association, a conservative evangelical group, has called the project “a nationwide push to promote the homosexual lifestyle in public schools” and is urging parents to keep their children home from school on Oct. 30, the day most of the schools plan to participate this year.
The program is not about sexual orientation but rather about breaking up social cliques, which are especially evident in a school cafeteria, Ms. Costello said.
In some schools, cliques are socioeconomic. In others they are ethnic or religious or based on sexual orientation. By giving students a way to mix with other students, self-imposed social barriers can be broken down and bullying can be curbed, she said."
By Friday, about 200 schools had canceled...
Although parents did complain to Kevin Brady, the head of the Avon Grove Charter School in rural Pennsylvania, the school is still planning to hold Mix it Up at Lunch Day for its 1,600 students.
Students will each be assigned a number and then paired up by school officials. The school has a large population of special-needs students who can feel isolated and thus benefit greatly from the program, Mr. Brady said.
The school started it a few years ago, inspired, in part, by the shootings at Columbine High School in Colorado and examples of bully-related violence that surfaced in schools around the country."
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| mpdodgson |
Posted - 10/16/2012 5:17:17 PM | show profile | flag this post
It's more offensive
if you actually hear American Family Association spokesman Bryan Fischer defend his groups opposition.
“Hitler recruited homosexuals around him to make up his Stormtroopers. They were his enforcers. He discovered he could not get straight soldiers to carry out his orders but homosexual soldiers had no limit to the savagery and brutality Hitler sent them after.”
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/cnn-anchor-battles-anti-gay-activist-kicks-him-off-after-he-trashes-toxic-homosexuality/
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| cruiser |
Posted - 10/16/2012 5:56:42 PM | show profile | flag this post
While the goal of the group may have some merit
it infringes on the rights of the students to free association, which was affirmed by the US Supreme Court in NAACP v. Alabama, 1958.
And in Tinker v. Des Moines Independent Community School District, 1969, Supreme Court Justice Abe Fortas wrote,
"[S]chools may not be enclaves of totalitarianism. School officials do not possess absolute authority over their students. Students...are possessed of fundamental rights which the State must respect."
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| mpdodgson |
Posted - 10/16/2012 6:01:55 PM | show profile | flag this post
I don't see how
"schoolchildren around the country are ENCOURAGED to hang out with someone they normally might not speak to"
"infringes on the rights of the students to free association"
You don't want your kid participating? Keep them home. Don't think this merits citing SCOTUS decisions. IMO.
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| con |
Posted - 10/16/2012 6:13:04 PM | show profile | flag this post
"You don't want your kid participating? Keep them home."
nope. that isn't the correct answer.
liberal social experiments always go wrong. just look at inner city america........
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| cruiser |
Posted - 10/16/2012 6:13:26 PM | show profile | flag this post
OF COURSE you don't want Supreme Court decisions quoted
The program is a liberal education establishment cause celebre and you and your brethren will downplay or ignore anything that would interfere with it.
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| cdnreprtr |
Posted - 10/16/2012 6:16:46 PM | show profile | flag this post
And then there's conservative experiments..
... Like Iraq.
(Good try to troll tho')
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| cdnreprtr |
Posted - 10/16/2012 6:27:01 PM | show profile | flag this post
Cruiser, wrong again
NAACP vs Alabama, 1958 (SCOTUS 357 U.S. 449) has absolutely nothing to do with student right to free association.
It has to do with information disclosure.
The case affirmed that the constitutional rights of speech and assembly include a right of private group association (ie NAACP.) and , more importantly, the right of a private group to keep membership confiendential (Alabama charge NAACP with content fom refusing to release lists).
Schools, of course, are not private groups. And the case has nothing to do with students.
FAIL.
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| Grateful Deadline |
Posted - 10/17/2012 12:09:27 AM | show profile | flag this post
;o)
Curses! Foiled again!!
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| cruiser |
Posted - 10/17/2012 12:23:53 AM | show profile | flag this post
To all the infantile
nanny-nanny-boo-boo chanters, I CORRECTLY cited NAACP v. Alabama because it affirms the genereal right of free association. It does NOT necessarily pertain to schools, nor did I necessarily intend it to. If any of you knew anything about the law you'd understand.
The OTHER citation, however, was specific to schools.
But if it helps you get through the night...
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| cdnreprtr |
Posted - 10/17/2012 4:04:41 AM | show profile | flag this post
Cruiser, wrong again.
NAACP v Alabama affirmed the right to assemble and communicate to PRIVATE groups. Schools are not private. Moreover this was a not a preceedent because the right was recognized in law long before, like, say, in he Constitution of the US. Its influence is in the protect of private membership ( and in the proceedural long back and from the Alabama State court and SCOTUS, which SCOTUS smacked down the south state court with Writ of Certiorari.
As for Tinker v.. wrong, again.
Tinker decided there is no absolute freedom of expression in schools, and not set up a test courts to decide what reasonable (legal) limits to freedom of expression school authorities could impose .. which is usually interpreted as the speech cannot cause "disruption"
Again, a court case that has absolutely no bearing on the subject at hand.
In other words, you have no idea what your talking about. absolutely no idea.
its not right or left.
You are simply wrong, again.
and you'd be laughed out of court if you trie to make the argument, by judges, and counsels, from either party.
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| etaoin shrdlu |
Posted - 10/17/2012 9:20:36 AM | show profile | flag this post
I love it when cruzo...
completely misinterprets a court ruling.
And love it when he looks for a way to take up for a hate group like the American Family Association.
It blends in so well with the rest of his conspiracy theorist persona.
Encouraging people to do something does not in any way violate the right to association. It's part of learning to live in a diverse American culture.
God forbid that these kids actually have a chance to face reality!
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| beenthere |
Posted - 10/17/2012 9:39:13 AM | show profile | flag this post
Oh, puh-LEEZE!
They had this at my high school, which was 95% white. It was a way to get all the kids talking together.
Don't these religious groups have anything important to do?
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