Posted - 1/2/2013 1:46:23 PM | show profile | flag this post
The poor, the middle class and the rich all just got a tax increase.
If you work, your taxes just went up.
Obama lied again. But that's what people voted for.
Posted - 1/2/2013 1:55:15 PM | show profile | flag this post
"Obama lied again."
Where and when exactly? I mean you started this, you surely have something to back that up?
Where and when did the President ever say "taxes will never go up". I Googled it and found nothing, what did you find to say "Obama lied again." Just wondering.
Posted - 1/2/2013 2:25:05 PM | show profile | flag this post
"If you work, your taxes just went up."
much of the democrat base has nothing to worry about.
dear leader broke his no new taxes pledge soon after taking office. no worries. obama knows the media supports and defends him.
Posted - 1/2/2013 2:30:14 PM | show profile | flag this post
Here is the lie....
Obama: "If you make less than $250,000 a year, your taxes will not go up."
Obama "We are asking the wealthy to pay their fair share."
Any person who works, will now pay higher taxes starting with you first paycheck in January.
Obama has lied, multiple times on this issue.
Posted - 1/2/2013 3:17:55 PM | show profile | flag this post
The tax "hike" you're talking about...
is not a hike.
It's the expiration of a temporary tax holiday. It was placed on payroll taxes -- what we have taken out of our checks for Social Security and Medicare.
So taxes did not go up -- they went back to where they were supposed to be all along.
Nice try, though.
Posted - 1/2/2013 3:27:28 PM | show profile | flag this post
"So taxes did not go up -- they went back to where they were supposed to be all along."
will working americans pay more in taxes after this deal? yes.
so it is a tax increase.
bill clinton you are not.
Posted - 1/2/2013 4:07:18 PM | show profile | flag this post
Even Grover Norquist said...
it wasn't a tax increase.
Quit your whining, con. Your side lost and lost big. Your party wanted to raise taxes on the middle class a whole lot more to keep from raising taxes on the richest 2%.
Posted - 1/2/2013 4:24:13 PM | show profile | flag this post
Try to be consistent
Democrats have been calling things like this "tax increases" when trying to hammere Republicans. You people need to accept the FACT tha, in your parlance, it IS a tax increase.
Not only that but Obama's "victory" is going to add $4 TRILLION to the deficit.
The GOP and the American people got snookered. Obama won all the points, taxes went up, the deficit went up, and out-of-control spending will NOT be cut.
What a sorry state of affairs.
Posted - 1/2/2013 5:06:34 PM | show profile | flag this post
Could we possibly agree
That if "taxes" (whatever that means) revert back to their old levels--That's not a tax "increase", it's going back to where they were?? If Grover accepts that (and I think we all agree he's the craziest anti-tax zealot there ever was) why can't you wingnuts accept it?
"Any person who works, will now pay higher taxes starting with you first paycheck in January." Agreed. Some more than others. Both parties got us into this mess, both parties have to get us out of it. If you voted for Repubs consistently--this is partly your fault. If you voted for Dems consistently--this is partly your fault.
Yea, we can all sit on the sidelines and bitch about it--But facts are facts. Putting all the blame on Obama simply because you hate the guy makes you look like the juvenile fool.
You think we got here overnight?? Bush set the all-time record by increasing the debt by $1.1 trillion in 100 days. More off the books. Even St. Reagan had budget deficits, and added to the Debt. Yes--Obama SPENT EVEN MORE. But when you're out of work--you find work--you don't pay off the household debts. Duh.
We STILL have yet to face the 'Budget Cutting' part of this deal--and there will be blood. But this constant boo-hoo-waa-waa stomp my feet childish I-hate-that-guy bullshit is ridiculous.
Posted - 1/2/2013 6:13:31 PM | show profile | flag this post
No, not at all. I pity the narcissistic, imperious fool. But I DO hate what he's done...and is trying to do.
Posted - 1/2/2013 6:41:28 PM | show profile | flag this post
"Could we possibly agree..."
Yes, we could...IF you people would be consistent. Your side labeled the expiration of the Bush tax cuts as a tax increase when you were trying to hammer Republicans.
Sauce for the goose...
Posted - 1/2/2013 7:16:22 PM | show profile | flag this post
Nobody in this forum is a politician. Nobody on this board writes the words that come out of politicians' mouths and keyboards. To continue implying that they do is beyond ridiculous.
Posted - 1/2/2013 8:35:35 PM | show profile | flag this post
No, not at all. I just call him names, disparage his behavior as president and an individual, make vaguely racist comments about him and his wife, and pretend to pity him, then use a condescending approach as though I were much smarter and more qualified to do the job he was elected to do twice, and judge his performance with an attitude of clear disdain and contempt.
Then I call HIM imperious.
Posted - 1/2/2013 9:35:07 PM | show profile | flag this post
"No, not at all."
Besides what cruster said (all true); you've claimed Obama has broken the law several times, He’s a Socialist—and shares characteristics of Hitler , Stalin, and Mao, He caused the Great Economic Recession of 2008 before he even entered the WH, and is propably not even an American; and even if he is, all that 'mentoring' from his Kenyan and Commie mentors, what do you expect from the narcissistic, imperious fool??
But you don't hate the guy?? Have you considered therapy with a Raggedy Ann Doll?
Is it going to take an "Acme Anvil" to fall on your head to realize your three day tirade on how that commie black guy has ruined the country has come about as a result of not one --but now two--majority votes on the part of the Republicans?? We barely, sort of avoided the fiscal cliff--because the GOP, not that guy you don't hate so much--because the GOP woke up and voted for it??
Naw. Don't want to hear it. Never happened. It's all HIS fault.
Must really suck to be you.
Posted - 1/2/2013 10:35:18 PM | show profile | flag this post
"But you don't hate the guy??"
Absolutely not. Hatred for people is not an emotion I harbor.
I hate what he's done, what he plans to do and what he stands for but I do not hate the person.
Must suck to be like you and not be able to separate unfettered emotion from analytical logic.
Posted - 1/3/2013 6:27:06 AM | show profile | flag this post
Taxes went up...for every working person
I don't care how people on the left want to phrase it.
ALL working people will pay higher taxes, within two weeks.
Obama never said, " the poor, the middle class and the rich will pay higher taxes"
Obama never said, "everyone needs to pay their fair share"
Obama, the dems and the media, have framed their plan as " a tax increase on the wealthy"
Apparently, if you are a single mom making $10 per hour, Obama, the dems and the media think you are wealthy, based on what they told us.
Posted - 1/3/2013 9:28:00 AM | show profile | flag this post
you apparently didn't listen to Obama during the last campaign.
He promised tax hikes on the rich. He delivered He NEVER promised to extend the payroll tax holiday.
But I do love how you and cruzo -- after four years of bashing the Obama stimulus plan -- are now having a fit because part of it was allowed to expire!
Looks like you are both coming around to supporting Obama -- even if you don't realize it!
Posted - 1/3/2013 11:40:07 AM | show profile | flag this post
Taxes went UP on the poor and the middle class....
Obama and the dems just raised taxes on the poor and middle class.
It's a fact.
Obama, the dems and the media, now have to lie to cover up that fact.
Posted - 1/3/2013 1:11:24 PM | show profile | flag this post
if you are against dear leader- you must hate him. sorry libs.
just because you have hate in your minds and hearts for those you disagree with- doesn't mean everyone else is the same.
no matter how much you do a clinton- poor and middle class workers will be paying higher taxes. that is a fact.
Posted - 1/3/2013 1:14:13 PM | show profile | flag this post
aren't you going to tell us why you're now defending the Obama Stimulus Plan?
You sure are whining a lot about letting part of the stimulus expire on schedule.
Do the two of you, and cruzo for that matter, want a SECOND Obama stimulus?
Posted - 1/3/2013 1:21:48 PM | show profile | flag this post
whatever happened to the 1.2 trillion in cuts that obama promised? they have been postponed and most likely never happen.
yeah. obama is all about fiscal responsibility.
Posted - 1/3/2013 2:07:27 PM | show profile | flag this post
The rich made off with this one, too...
Payroll taxes are going up. At least for people making $113,000 a year and less. Those making more than that do't pay a dime above that level. So while their taxes will go up, it will be a significant lower percentage than everyone else. If you are making $100,000 a year you will pay $2,000 a year more. So will Bill Gates. That sounds fair to me. They need to wipe out the cap on Social Security and make the wealthy pay on their entire amount like the rest of us. That way they could cut the tax rate significantly across the board and still come up with more money. Just another case of Congress protecting the rich. They also need to count capital gains as income as well when it comes to SS. A person drawing SS can only make $18,000 a year in extra income. However, a person making $500,000 a year on investments can get SS without worrying about going over any limits. That seems really fair as well. Let's even out the playing field for once!
Posted - 1/3/2013 2:39:19 PM | show profile | flag this post
That 1.2 trillion your talking about...
con, has already happened.
Took place in 2011. Glad to introduce you to 10 year budget windows.
But I'm glad to see you're upset about seeing some of the Obama Stimulus expire.
I guess you believe it worked after all.
Posted - 1/4/2013 6:40:27 AM | show profile | flag this post
Obama, the dems and the media lied about Obama's tax plans
They said only the wealthy were going to pay more taxes.
But in the end, the poor, the middle class and EVERY WORKING person has to pay more in taxes.
It's the truth. You can't change the truth and you know it.
So you change the subject.
Posted - 1/4/2013 9:18:00 AM | show profile | flag this post
you and every other Republican out there have been demanding an end to this tax break for nearly four years.
You and the other posters here have said over and over that the Obama stimulus plan "failed."
THESE tax breaks WERE the Obama stimulus plan.
Now, you're whining that they expired -- as they were meant to do -- on January 1.
Obama NEVER promised they'd be extended. The media never promised they'd be extended.
You got what you wanted -- an end to part of the Obama stimulus. It's what you've been demanding since 2009.
You should be happy.