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GOP Sour Grapes in Virginia
Posted - 12/10/2013 5:36:19 PM | show profile | flag this post
So, if the GOP candidate for Attorney General -- who lost in the first vote count -- loses his recount, he's going to ask the General Assembly to throw out the will of the people and declare him the winner.
"If he loses the recount, [Mark] Obenshain could ask a joint session of the General Assembly -- which is dominated by Republicans -- to reverse the results.
Posted - 12/10/2013 8:10:32 PM | show profile | flag this post
Posted - 12/10/2013 8:51:45 PM | show profile | flag this post
Honestly? I don't think it's sour grapes.
Have to disagree with you my friend. (from the piece):
"Obenshain requested the recount in what is regarded as the closest race in modern Virginia history after his opponent, Democrat Mark R. Herring, maintained a lead of just 165 votes of more than 2.2 million votes cast — a margin of just 0.007 percent."
Hell, if I worked on that campaign, I'd be demanding a recount so fast and so often it'd make your head spin.
The bigger story (IMO) is obviously Virginia turning bright 'purple'. Especially after Obama beat Romney there, (althought it was damn close), the recent sweep there should make Repubs very very nervous.
Posted - 12/11/2013 9:22:00 AM | show profile | flag this post
I don't think it's sour grapes to request a recount...
that SHOULD happen.
What I take issue with is Obenshain's idea that if he loses the recount, having the election itself thrown out -- and going to the General Assembly to have himself declared Attorney General.
In other words, the election ONLY counts if he wins it.
Posted - 12/18/2013 3:31:59 PM | show profile | flag this post
In fairness to Obenshain...
he's now going to concede the election on Wednesday -- and not look for the Virginia General Assembly to set the election aside and name him AG.
The recount has actually expanded Democrat Mark Herring's winning margin -- though it's still a razor thin margin.
The announcement isn't official, but two people in his campaign are saying it will happen.
The recount was the right thing to do. His accepting the results is also the right thing.
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Posted - 12/18/2013 3:58:28 PM | show profile | flag this post
"RICHMOND — State Sen. Mark D. Obenshain (R) will concede the race for Virginia attorney general to Democrat Mark R. Herring on Wednesday, according to two people familiar with the decision."
"Obenshain’s decision a day after Herring’s lead grew to more than 810 votes, with 73 percent of ballots across the state recounted, according to Herring’s campaign."
Posted - 12/18/2013 5:33:32 PM | show profile | flag this post
"The recount has actually expanded Democrat Mark Herring's
Democrats have this nasty habit of "finding" uncounted ballots when they're on the losing end of close races. An example is the Franken-Coleman race in Minnesota in 2008.
Posted - 12/18/2013 6:43:25 PM | show profile | flag this post
Posted - 12/19/2013 9:40:16 AM | show profile | flag this post
throwing out that old, conservative urban legend about "the ballots in the trunk" in the Franken-Coleman race.
The 32 ballots were never in a car trunk for several days, and some of those ballots were for Coleman, not just for Franken.
Both Coleman and Franken picked up votes in the recount. The "missing" ballots were actually improperly challenged absentee ballots that election judges were later forced to count.
In Virginia, both sides picked up extra votes in the recount. Again, these shifts involve challenged ballots that judges -- representing both sides -- determine were improperly challenged and never counted.
Posted - 12/19/2013 9:47:51 AM | show profile | flag this post
You can argue the left wing party line
until you're blue in the face but that won't change the FACT that this is a suspect election result.
Posted - 12/19/2013 4:10:44 PM | show profile | flag this post
No, it's not.
The GOP in Virginia agree there was no voter fraud.
Posted - 12/19/2013 4:32:56 PM | show profile | flag this post
I was talking about the Franken/Coleman race
being suspect and I'm not sure whether I failed to make that clear or whether you tried to change the subject...as usual.
Posted - 12/19/2013 6:40:26 PM | show profile | flag this post
in either case, cruiztwit.. you're dead wrong..
as usual..they're suspect elections only in your mind..
such as it is..
Posted - 12/19/2013 7:15:47 PM | show profile | flag this post
The Franken-Coleman race...
was riddled with all kinds of attempts from the GOP to derail Franken -- attempting to stop the recount, making up false stories and conspiracy theories about "missing" ballots.
None of it was believable.
Franken won. Fair and square. Even Coleman admitted it in the end.
Posted - 12/19/2013 7:27:29 PM | show profile | flag this post
"Franken won. Fair and square"
I'm sure you believe that...even if you have to (as Hillary says) "willingly suspend disbelief."
I am, however, much more skeptical, given the documented shenanigans I've seen from Democrats over the last 45 or so years.
I'm equally sure you'll discount that and come back with some supposed wrongdoing by Republicans that exists solely as urban legend.
Posted - 12/19/2013 7:39:05 PM | show profile | flag this post
"I'm sure you believe that"
Yes, I'm sure libs believe elections are fair.
First George Washington wins the revolutionary war AND gets elected president? Twice? Uh huh.
Toothless cruiser knows all elections since Washington have been fixed by ACORN.
They use fluoridated water delivered by black helicopters to delude voters into electing the wrong people then raise taxes to pay the Trilateral Commission and the Bildeberg and keep them swimming in pools of champagne.
Everyone knows the only REAL elections are those won by conservative republicans.
Romney landslide 2012.
Posted - 1/13/2014 9:51:33 PM | show profile | flag this post
Update on a very old story:
It reminded me of a oft-repeated phrase here; "Stay classy..."
"Ken Cuccinelli uses final day in office to issue anti-gay 'opinion'"
"Virginia attorney general and failed candidate for governor Ken Cuccinelli is a petty, petty man.
Just hours before leaving office, former Virginia Attorney General Ken Cuccinelli (R) issued an opinion that appears intended to entrench his own anti-gay policy preferences while he could still speak as his state’s top legal officer. [...]
Cuccinelli’s non-binding opinion, which is dated January 10, 2014, concludes that “a Governor may not direct or require any agency of state government to allow same-sex couples to receive joint marital status for Virginia income tax returns.” Cuccinelli’s successor, Democrat Mark Herring, was sworn in January 11.
The non-binding part means this was nothing more than a last-day bit of wankery from a man still determined to have a career spouting off about the gays after that touchy business of losing the election." (Daily Kos)
Why do I have the 'did I swallow that?' awful feeling in the pit of my stomach...We're going to hear from this guy again...
Posted - 1/14/2014 10:12:40 PM | show profile | flag this post
Face it, mp...
Cooch* got licked in the election. He and his political allies are still fighting to ban oral sex in the state. He just can't let go.
*Cooch is the official, political nickname bestowed on Cuccinelli by his conservative supporters.
Posted - 1/21/2014 9:13:51 PM | show profile | flag this post
Another small update:
"Federal prosecutors filed criminal corruption charges against former Virginia Gov. Bob McDonnell and his wife, Maureen, on Monday for allegedly accepting gifts illegally.
A federal grand jury returned a 14-count indictment against the governor and his wife, according to charging documents.
The charges stem from state and federal inquiries into the couple's relationship with a prominent donor, Jonnie R. Williams, the head of a dietary supplements manufacturer.
The Richmond Times-Dispatch reported that, if convicted, the governor and his wife could face over $1 million in fines and potential time in prison.
The charges represent a stunning fall from grace for McDonnell, the Republican governor from a swing state that doubles as a political seat of power. Mitt Romney considered the governor as a potential running mate in 2012,..." (NBC)
I have no idea if McDonnell would have helped Mitt more than Ryan in 2012...but the Romney campaign sure dodged a bullet here.
Posted - 1/21/2014 10:00:21 PM | show profile | flag this post
Cooch* got licked? Really etaoin?
YOU stay clever etaoin.