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| beenthere |
Posted - 7/10/2012 9:12:11 AM | show profile | flag this post
Why isn't anyone covering this story? It should be front page news EVERYWHERE!!!!!!
Excerpt:
http://bostonherald.com/news/opinion/op_ed/view/20220627mass_gop_deals_dirty
**Evan Kenney was a senior at Wakefield High School when, inspired by a politically active teacher, he decided he’d like to become a delegate to the Republican National Convention. Kenney, a Ron Paul supporter, has no delusions about who the GOP nominee will be — Mitt Romney won 72 percent of the primary vote in Massachusetts — and he understood he would be casting his vote for Romney in Tampa.
Kenney won, receiving more votes than the two former GOP gubernatorial candidates he was running against, Charlie Baker and Kerry Healey.
But in the end, it’s Baker and Healey who are going to Tampa as delegates to the RNC, while Kenney will be home learning a lesson in petty, partisan politics.
Why? Because the state GOP cheated.
When Romney’s preferred delegates lost, the campaign asked the state party to dump the winners. One problem — the winners actually won.
So the state GOP changed the rules after the voting, adding new paperwork and artificial deadlines. They even pulled an “Al Gore” and refused to count provisional ballots — a direct violation of the party’s rules.
As a result, Kenney and 16 other delegates/alternates who ran — and won — as Ron Paul libertarians had their seats stolen from them.**
Democracy, shmerocracy.
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| beenthere |
Posted - 7/10/2012 9:14:15 AM | show profile | flag this post
And this from a courthouse news service.
More Delegates Want to Join Repub Revolt
By REBEKAH KEARN
http://www.courthousenews.com/2012/06/15/47495.htm
**In a revolt against Romney, at least 40 more national convention delegates asked to join 123 previous plaintiffs in a lawsuit against the Republican National Committee, and their attorney said hundreds more may soon follow suit.
The first 123 delegates, all from the 9th Circuit, sued the RNC, its Chairman Rince Priebus, and every state party chairman in the 9th Circuit in Federal Court on Monday, demanding the right to vote for the candidate of their choice on every ballot at the Republican National Convention, including the first.
The delegates claim the party violated federal law by forcing them to sign loyalty affidavits, under threat of perjury, to vote for Mitt Romney, though he is not yet the official nominee.
They also claimed that state party chairmen are fixing elections at state conventions and changing ballots so that all votes cast count for Romney.**
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| etaoin shrdlu |
Posted - 7/10/2012 10:00:16 AM | show profile | flag this post
Ron Paul delegates have been...
grabbing the majority of delegate slots in a number of Republican state conventions.
I'm not sure what the strategy is -- or what the goal is -- but they could have a significant influence on the GOP platform at the convention.
It promises to be entertaining.
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| beenthere |
Posted - 7/10/2012 10:19:57 AM | show profile | flag this post
ES, that's the point here.
The GOP is OUSTING the delegates, AFTER they have been voted in. The GOP is forcing ALL delegates to sign an affidavit that they will vote for Mitt Romney and if they don't, the GOP will nail them with perjury charges. The party is pissed because the delegates they have hand picked/approved are losing to newcomers/Ron Paul supporters.
If the delegates don't sign the affidavit, they get replaced. If they don't sign fast enough, they get replaced.
It's an abomination of the democratic process, within the GOP itself. And it is being done BECAUSE the GOP is running scared Romney will lose the nomination to Ron Paul.
I was being tongue-in-cheek with the right-wing media bias comment, but really: WHY ISN'T THIS STORY BEING COVERED?
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| beenthere |
Posted - 7/10/2012 10:37:30 AM | show profile | flag this post
Here's a link to a clip an interview with delegate Evan Kenney who was ousted after trumping a former GOP government candidate in Massachusetts.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/#48128819
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| cruiser |
Posted - 7/10/2012 10:43:15 AM | show profile | flag this post
"WHY ISN'T THIS STORY BEING COVERED?"
Because the left wing media knows the Democrat party is doing things that are similar...or worse. They simply do not want to open that can of worms.
But your screed begs the question: If you're quoting from the Boston Herald, how can you say the media is not covering it?
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| beenthere |
Posted - 7/10/2012 10:51:57 AM | show profile | flag this post
I was being tongue-in-cheek with the right-wing media bias comment
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Remedial reading comprehension for cruiser. But I would expect no less.
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| cruiser |
Posted - 7/10/2012 1:22:41 PM | show profile | flag this post
It's not me, pal,
who need remedial reading help. Go back and read my post again. Maybe you'll "get it" on the second try.
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| etaoin shrdlu |
Posted - 7/10/2012 1:28:59 PM | show profile | flag this post
Cruzo said...
"Because the left wing media knows the Democrat party is doing things that are similar...or worse."
Care to share what that would be?
The Republican establishment is frightened of Ron Paul supporters and what they could do to the convention.
But, as far as I know, a similar problem does not exist with Democratic delegates.
Care to enlighten us, cruzo?
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| cruster |
Posted - 7/10/2012 2:10:29 PM | show profile | flag this post
No Way Pal
I don't have to prove or source anything I say. Just accept that I am right and "get it".
And as I said, I don't need any remedial education. I didn't even need medial education.
The less I learn, the more I know, and the smarter I am.
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| beenthere |
Posted - 7/10/2012 2:27:28 PM | show profile | flag this post
cruiser/cruster you've just outed yourself again.
Care to explain why the GOP is ignoring the votes of its own members? And threatening them with lawsuits if the do not vote a certain way? Last I checked votes are a private individual's matter.
Of course you can't explain. Carry on, dear cruiser, carry on. I think nap time is approaching.
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| etaoin shrdlu |
Posted - 7/10/2012 3:30:21 PM | show profile | flag this post
There you go, kinky...
when you can't answer for your own party -- just make up stuff about the other side!
Ron Paul's people are going to make the RNC look like a circus! And screwing over their ranks in state conventions are only going to make those who do get to the convention more vocal.
More headaches for Romney and the GOP establishment!
Their convention is going to be a train wreck.
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| cruiser |
Posted - 7/10/2012 4:51:12 PM | show profile | flag this post
What's happening is
newcomers (those supported by the tea party movement, etc.) are threatening the "old boy" GOP network. There has been a cozy relationship built between establishment GOP figures and outside influences (business groups, etc.) over the years and the newcomers are challenging that...as they quite properly should.
It has little or nothing to do with Ron Paul.
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| beenthere |
Posted - 7/10/2012 5:03:11 PM | show profile | flag this post
If it has nothing to do with Ron Paul, why are the delegates being forced to sign agreements stating they will vote Romney or face perjury charges?
Because it has everything to do with the perceived threat of Ron Paul by the Romney camp.
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| Grateful Deadline |
Posted - 7/10/2012 7:01:30 PM | show profile | flag this post
Does anybody think that the links to the Boston Herald and MSNBC in this thread indicate that somebody IS covering the story?
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| mpdodgson |
Posted - 7/10/2012 9:20:43 PM | show profile | flag this post
The delicious irony here
is totally lost on cruise.
We are constantly bombarded here by rightwing posters (secondcoming comes to mind) who find some unimportant potentially embarassing event for Obama (in the media) then complain that no one is the media is covering it.
(quoting cruise) "But your screed begs the question: If you're quoting from the Boston Herald, how can you say the media is not covering it?"
THAT'S EXACTLY what we Dem/Libs say when we hear 'Why isn't the Librul media covering this (CNN seems to be a favorite villian) 'Even though I heard about it from the media--the media isn't covering it!!
So, thanks cruise, we'll remember you said that--then next time we say the same thing.
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| cruiser |
Posted - 7/10/2012 10:13:35 PM | show profile | flag this post
"the perceived threat of Ron Paul"
What threat? Ron Paul has served in the US Senate since 1997, representing the Gulf Coast of Texas. He has NEVER gotten a piece of legislation passed and serves mainly as comic relief for his senate colleagues.
The fact that his libertarian views earned him a handful of disgruntled left wingers as supporters does't make him a threat to anyone.
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| cruiser |
Posted - 7/10/2012 10:27:02 PM | show profile | flag this post
"The delicious irony here
is totally lost on cruise."
Hardly. Remember, I'M the one who reminded your left wing compatriot that he was quoting from the Boston Herald and lamenting that the media was not covering the story.
Ya kinda blew it that time, pal. But in your convoluted logic I guess anything is possible.
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| orthicon |
Posted - 7/10/2012 10:51:03 PM | show profile | flag this post
y'know, i looked all over the place..and couldn't find..
a single thing that ron paul accomplished during his 15 or so years in the u.s. senate..
maybe he was in the senate on cruiztwit's planet..
but i don't think that counts here, does it?
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| beenthere |
Posted - 7/11/2012 9:28:24 AM | show profile | flag this post
GD, I was making a joke
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| Grateful Deadline |
Posted - 7/11/2012 12:03:34 PM | show profile | flag this post
Ah.
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| blackedtaped |
Posted - 7/14/2012 8:36:50 PM | show profile | flag this post
Since some of you are so concerned about this...
http://news.yahoo.com/ron-pauls-delegate-insurgency-ends-nebraska-221812268--abc-news-politics.html
I guess ABC news and yahoo did not get the word that this was not to be covered. Opps.
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| beenthere |
Posted - 7/14/2012 9:41:57 PM | show profile | flag this post
read through the entire thread.
IT'S
A
JOKE.
I swear, this board needs an enema.
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| blackedtaped |
Posted - 7/15/2012 8:44:01 AM | show profile | flag this post
beenthere...
Um, I understood your "no media coverage" was a joke, so was mine. But the rest was not a joke. I just thought you might be interested in an update of the story, since you seemed concerned about how republicans were choosing delegates to their convention.
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