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GOP launches assault on Electoral College
Posted - 12/17/2012 11:15:09 AM | show profile | flag this post
"Republicans alarmed at the apparent challenges they face in winning the White House are preparing an all-out assault on the Electoral College system in critical states, an initiative that would significantly ease the party's path to the Oval Office."
Basically, they're attempting to Gerrymander the electoral college to give Republicans an advantage -- taking away voting power from urban areas and blue states and giving more voting power to red states.
The GOP mantra: If you can't win on the field, move the goalposts.
Posted - 12/17/2012 12:03:36 PM | show profile | flag this post
" If you can't win on the field, move the goalposts."
what democrats tried to do in 2000 and 2004? make sure you take you blood pressure meds. these liberal conspiracies can get a brutha all worked up.
Posted - 12/17/2012 12:40:31 PM | show profile | flag this post
Admiral Akbar again: "It's a TRAP!"
Don't get me wrong, I'm all in favor of scrapping the EC, and going to Popular Vote only--but do it across the board or don't do it at all. Republicans are trying to get the swing states to change their systems (not Texas for example--no no no that's a solid Electoral lock--don't touch that...). This is scheming pure and simple.
con?? etaoin cited a specific piece, that had complete details. You on the other hand, just said "what democrats tried to do in 2000 and 2004"
Exactly what did the Dems do in those years to "move the goalposts?" Really would like to know what you meant.
Posted - 12/17/2012 2:12:57 PM | show profile | flag this post
I have no clue about....
what he meant those two elections either.
But the GOP is increasingly being seen as void of ideals and principles and trying to win by gaming the system (to borrow a phrase from one of our rightist posters here).
It would seem easier to actually come up with policies and positions that appealed to the American people instead of trying to disenfranchise voters who disagree with you.
Instead of doing that, the Republican Party tried and failed to get voter suppression laws (they called them Voter ID laws) in effect in this last election.
Now, they're trying to change the rules in blue states ONLY to let them take the majority of electoral votes even if they lose a state.
The GOP has won the popular vote in only one (2004) Presidential election in the last SIX elections.
This is some absolute desperation showing -- and an indication that the GOP doesn't plan to actually appeal to voters with ideals, positions or policy for a long time to come.
Posted - 12/17/2012 2:19:03 PM | show profile | flag this post
to do that, the GOP would have to actually HAVE..
policies and positions..
so far, they don't seem to be developing any in the wake of the november smackdown..
wait- i know!!!
they could come out in favor of making FULLY automatic assault weapons legal for civilians!!
no need to keep pulling the trigger over and over!..just one pull, and you can send 30 or 40 rounds at the target!..much more convenient!!
the sad truth is, there are more people in congress than just louie gohmert who would see this as a real selling point..
gotta solidify the militia part of the republican base, ya know..
Posted - 12/17/2012 3:43:55 PM | show profile | flag this post
Still waiting con...
"what democrats tried to do in 2000 and 2004?" What exactly did you mean by that? You had time to poston another thread since you wrote that--Why don't you tell us what you meant??
And let's all of us face this reality--Democrat legislatures (when give the chance) are just as guilty as Republican ones when it comes to gerrymandering. That's been around for, well, since Gerry. if all could re-draw district lines to follow county borders I would, but it'll never happen. Most districts (of both parites) look like someone vomited up Rorschach test.
Posted - 12/17/2012 3:46:37 PM | show profile | flag this post
States should all adopt...
the model of independent redistricting panels.
They take the politics out of redistricting and give people a more accurate representation in Congress.
Posted - 12/17/2012 3:58:39 PM | show profile | flag this post
Posted - 12/17/2012 4:44:05 PM | show profile | flag this post
eta..not sure about your premise...
we're still waiting to assess the full kmpact of our new independent panel..
the resulting redistricting was a major factor in democrats achieving a super majority in BOTH houses of the california legislature..rendering fepublicans essentially nonexistent in the legislative process..
we'll see how that works out in reality..
Posted - 12/17/2012 6:00:44 PM | show profile | flag this post
it's not perfect, but it's the best mechanism out there to prevent Gerrymandering.