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Government Spending is Down
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| etaoin shrdlu |
Posted - 3/20/2013 1:48:11 PM | show profile | flag this post
CBO numbers show that federal spending as a percentage of GDP has actually been falling since President Obama took office. http://jaredbernsteinblog.com/no-government-spending-really-isnt-going-up-right-now/ This should come as no surprise to anyone actually following federal spending. Only entitlement spending -- Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid -- has been growing since 2008. That's because of the Baby Boom in retirement. The rest of federal spending has been dropping as the wars wind down. |
| cruiser |
Posted - 3/21/2013 12:16:03 PM | show profile | flag this post
IF that's true then explain to me why the federal debt has risen from just under $10 trillion to more than $16.7 trillion in four short years...an increase larger than Bush's eight-year increase. The FACT is that federal spending is going up. |
| etaoin shrdlu |
Posted - 3/21/2013 1:15:15 PM | show profile | flag this post
Try reading, cruzo.... Go to the link. It'll answer your questions. |
| cruster |
Posted - 3/21/2013 1:34:55 PM | show profile | flag this post
The FACT is Down is now UP! Unemployment is down! Yet it INCREASES! The economy is growing, yet it is NOT! The Earth's climate is getting hotter, yet it is COOLING! Hero cruiser is ALWAYS right, yet he is WRONG! Fearless in the face of the facts. Brave in his cowardice. Original in his repetition of talking points. Brave cruiser, an American hero. |
| livinliberal |
Posted - 3/21/2013 1:37:35 PM | show profile | flag this post
Why is the deficit rising??!! Are you serious? It's because Obama had the integrity to put the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan on the books. It's also because Bush's tax cuts eliminated much of the previous revenue. More spending, less revenue. It's the leftovers from the Bush Administration that got us into all this trouble to begin with. But you cons are so set on trying to place the blame on Obama you can't and won't ever see that. This is all on W. Period. The. Worst. President. Ever. |
| etaoin shrdlu |
Posted - 3/21/2013 4:00:39 PM | show profile | flag this post
Again, cruzo... look at the numbers from the Congressional Budget Office. http://jaredbernsteinblog.com/no-government-spending-really-isnt-going-up-right-now/ Real spending (actual dollars) rose only 0.6% in Obama's first term (compared to several percent over the Bush administration). And it is actually falling as a percentage of GDP under Obama. |
| cruiser |
Posted - 3/21/2013 4:23:39 PM | show profile | flag this post
Give me a break The CBO will use whatever input numbers the administration and/or Harry Reid provide. And that supposedly gives everybody the shield of plausible deniability. |
| Grateful Deadline |
Posted - 3/21/2013 8:57:28 PM | show profile | flag this post
It's hard to tell sometimes whether you're trying to be funny or it's accidental. |
| etaoin shrdlu |
Posted - 3/22/2013 9:21:34 AM | show profile | flag this post
No, cruzo... the CBO is a bi-partisan body. Your own GOPhers use their numbers, too. |
| cruiser |
Posted - 3/22/2013 10:45:20 AM | show profile | flag this post
ROFL! What you post is fiction. |
| etaoin shrdlu |
Posted - 3/22/2013 12:04:16 PM | show profile | flag this post
Care to back that up, cruzo... Didn't think so. The facts are clear. Follow the link, look at the graph and accept the fact that the Congressional Budget Office is correct. You bragged on here a couple of months ago that you only based your evidence on government figures (BLS numbers). So now you're changing your tune? Run away. You're good at that. |
| cruiser |
Posted - 3/22/2013 12:17:18 PM | show profile | flag this post
Run away? No... it's pointless to argue with know-nothings with a far left agenda...like you. |
| con |
Posted - 3/22/2013 1:22:45 PM | show profile | flag this post
the cbo only looks at the numbers they are given. the cbo assumes all the numbers they are given are true. both dems and reps will give the cbo whatever numbers make their arguments the best. obama has outspent bush- which is saying something. in fact, obama has outspent the last five presidents. |
| livinliberal |
Posted - 3/22/2013 1:31:35 PM | show profile | flag this post
Funny how the right wingers... Love the CBO when they say that Obamacare will cost more than originally thought. But when it comes up with something they don't want to hear, it is just more liberal propaganda. |
| con |
Posted - 3/22/2013 1:39:20 PM | show profile | flag this post
livinliberal, what was the cbo's original estimates of the cost of obamacare? when the cbo was getting fed numbers by obama and democrats. compare that to the latest cbo estimates. tell me what ya thinks. |
| etaoin shrdlu |
Posted - 3/22/2013 2:04:52 PM | show profile | flag this post
Wow, con... it's hard to be more clueless than cruzo -- but you've managed to do it! You say the CBO is "fed" numbers? Wrong. Might want to read this, from the CBO's website: "Since its founding in 1974, the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) has produced independent analyses of budgetary and economic issues to support the Congressional budget process. The agency is strictly nonpartisan and conducts objective, impartial analysis, which is evident in each of the dozens of reports and hundreds of cost estimates that its economists and policy analysts produce each year. All CBO employees are appointed solely on the basis of professional competence, without regard to political affiliation. CBO does not make policy recommendations, and each report and cost estimate discloses the agency’s assumptions and methodologies. All of CBO’s products apart from informal cost estimates for legislation being developed privately by Members of Congress or their staffs are available to the Congress and the public on CBO’s website." |
| cruiser |
Posted - 3/22/2013 2:50:11 PM | show profile | flag this post
"They can't put anything on the Internet that's not true" "Where'd you hear that?" (in unison) "The Internet." |
| etaoin shrdlu |
Posted - 3/22/2013 2:56:25 PM | show profile | flag this post
Boy, cruzo... you really are desperate. The CBO is NON-partisan. No amount of lying and denying on your part can change that fact. Or the numbers they have produced INDEPENDENTLY of both parties. |
| etaoin shrdlu |
Posted - 3/22/2013 3:29:19 PM | show profile | flag this post
In fact... the biggest spending year of the Obama administration saw a 17.9% growth rate. But it was 2009. And it came from the Bush administrations LAST budget (the first year of any President's term always has to live with his predecessor's spending plan until October 1). Since then, Obama has held the distinction of holding down government spending more than any president since Eisenhower. http://www.forbes.com/sites/rickungar/2012/05/24/who-is-the-smallest-government-spender-since-eisenhower-would-you-believe-its-barack-obama/ At the same time, GDP has been growing. Simple math... Oh. There's the problem! Con and cruzo can't do math! I'm sorry for hurting your little brains, boys. |
| cruiser |
Posted - 3/22/2013 4:19:57 PM | show profile | flag this post
"The CBO is NON-partisan" You're either stupid or dishonest. |
| cruster |
Posted - 3/22/2013 5:02:48 PM | show profile | flag this post
True Hero cruiser Everyone knows the CBO WAS non-partisan, until they underwent Kenyan re-education. Now in the face of the worst economic crisis ever in the history of always, they lie to us. The economy is getting worse, the Earth is getting cooler, Obama is destroying the republic, black helicopters are circling my house, the Moon landing was faked, fluoridated water is a commie plot, JFK was murdered by Obama, Obamacare is a UN plot to take my guns, Whew! Not easy being a patriot, huh cruiser? |
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