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Gun Control: Assault Rifle Marketing?

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CutAbove	Posted - 1/7/2013 12:28:53 AM \| show profile \| flag this post I noticed on the magazine rack in my grocery store that a number of gun magazines were in stock. I then noticed nearly all of the publications had on the front cover a picture of an AR-15 or some other assault rifle, mostly AR-15s. Open the book and you will find articles, pictures, and advertising for AR-15s and plenty of other assault type rifles. Story ideas: How much money are gun manufactures making from the sale of new assault rifles? How much money is made from the sale of the various accessories and ammunition for these rifles? Why do these magazines feature so many assault rifles on their pages? How many gun manufactures make assault rifles? How much money to they spend marketing their assault rifles? How much money do they donate to the NRA? Mmmm... Magazines with assault rifles on their covers this month: Guns and Weapons, Special Weapons, Rifle Power, Tactical Weapons, SWAT just to name a few. Follow the money.

it's just tv folks	Posted - 1/7/2013 12:46:59 PM \| show profile \| flag this post so in other words How much money is being made off of the murders in Newtown, CT? Great question CutAbove.

Grateful Deadline	Posted - 1/7/2013 1:59:59 PM \| show profile \| flag this post For context, look at the history and content of Soldier of Fortune magazine, which has featured such firearms every month since its inception. I subscribed to SOF for a little while partly because I enjoyed shooting in the desert at the time and partly to see how the hard-core other half lived. In those days, there was more fantasizing about power-tripping and less reality involving turning weapons on people. Fantasy drives advertising and consumers a lot of the time.

Grateful Deadline	Posted - 1/7/2013 2:01:42 PM \| show profile \| flag this post Another thought: When you consider the lead times of magazines, the covers you're seeing on the racks this month would have been planned last fall. Just FWIW.

mpdodgson	Posted - 1/7/2013 2:13:18 PM \| show profile \| flag this post "For context"?? 'Obama as president' has been responsible for the largest boom in gun sales in history. It started the very month he was elected, and has continued ever since. NRA/LaPierre keeps fueling the fire. 'The very FACT that Obama hasn't proposed any new gun legislation is PROOF he is going to take your guns away'. Yea, that makes sense. Watch the news. The lines at gun shows after Sandy Hook are around the block. These people are deathly afraid their assault weapons are going to be taken away from them--SO let's stock up now!! The paranoia is beyond belief. But at least the nutjobs are armed to the teeth, that makes me feel better.

cruiser	Posted - 1/7/2013 2:35:13 PM \| show profile \| flag this post You irrational left-wingers better run and hide Platoons of unmanned AR-15s are on the march and soon they'll be roaming left-wing neighborhoods mowing down everthing in sight. Hurry up and ban those guns! (Geez!)

etaoin shrdlu	Posted - 1/7/2013 2:49:48 PM \| show profile \| flag this post Cruzo's... attempt to inject the usual, tired NRA semantic argument is silly in the light of reality. Taken quite literally, NOTHING anything or ANYONE else does kills a person. It is the cessation of the dead person's brain function that kills him! The idea that "guns don't kill people, people do" is a bad version of the old joke "falling out of an airplane doesn't kill you, the sudden stop does!" That's pretty much were the hollow NRA slogan comes from. But the fact is, the AR-15 was designed with one requirement from the federal government -- that it kill people -- by delivering a round that could pierce a steel helmet and still deliver a kill. Therefore, it was designed to kill people, just like a hammer was designed to drive nails or a screwdriver was designed to turn screws. So I'll meet his tired joke with another. "Guns don't kill people -- they just make it a whole lot easier to kill people."

Grateful Deadline	Posted - 1/7/2013 3:00:32 PM \| show profile \| flag this post I call thread drift. Could we get it back on track, please, instead of degenerating yet another thread into the same old worn-out pile of sawdust?

etaoin shrdlu	Posted - 1/7/2013 4:17:51 PM \| show profile \| flag this post Back on topic... then. The NRA is beholden to the gun industry, not gun owners as it was originally purposed to be. In it's early days, the NRA was a leading advocate for gun control laws -- and was considered a leftist outfit. It was instrumental in banning the sale or ownership of machine guns without special licenses. It has since been co-opted by the gun industry. If you look at the fights it picks, the issues benefit gun makers far more than gun owners. And the sale of assault weapons -- mechanical penis extenders for inadequate, frightened people is part of the marketing ploy. Remember the "Punch your Man Card" ad for the specific model of Bushmaster Adam Lanza used? And the fear of gun violence is designed to send people out to buy guns for self protection -- though the odds are that gun will likely kill a family member instead of an outside threat. And the fear of "taking away our guns" in the wake of every mass shooting has become an automatic marketing ploy to sent people out to buy guns in bulk. The gun industry needs this kind of marketing because guns are the most durable of durable goods -- they practically never wear out. So, there's no need to buy a replacement -- just more, more, more. That's the common element of all gun marketing. As far as the money flowing to the NRA or for magazine marketing -- the NRA has worked long and hard to hide gun numbers (and the money associated with them) from the public. They've even fought to prevent doctors from asking at risk patients -- or their parents -- about the access they have to guns. That was included by conservatives in the Obamacare bill. And that undermines the idea of stricter mental health screenings to prevent gun violence. How can we prevent it if doctors aren't allowed to talk about it?

cruiser	Posted - 1/7/2013 5:21:09 PM \| show profile \| flag this post That's probably the stupidest argument I've ever read. Doctors DO NOT need to know if there are any firearms in the household. All they need to do is report the names and other information about their patients who exhibit emotional and/or mental instability to NICS. But just watch the left wingers bawl: "But it'll be a black mark on his/her permanent record." Damn straight. If he/she is nuts I don't want him/her anywhere near a firearm.

Grateful Deadline	Posted - 1/7/2013 7:56:22 PM \| show profile \| flag this post I was going to ask how you would know a person was nuts, but I forgot -- you're clairvoyant.

cruiser	Posted - 1/7/2013 8:00:57 PM \| show profile \| flag this post "ask how you would know a person was nuts" I wouldn't. But his/her doctor or psychologist would...and THAT'S the person who needs to report him/her to NICS. See? It's not difficult if you think logically. Can you at least try that?

mpdodgson	Posted - 1/7/2013 9:59:20 PM \| show profile \| flag this post "Damn straight" "If he/she is nuts I don't want him/her anywhere near a firearm." "report the names and other information about their patients who exhibit emotional and/or mental instability to NICS." "Dear NICS; "I've got this patient named cruise???" "Yea. That's him. Loon." "He's nuts. Certifiable. And shouldn't be anywhere near a firearm" "Thought you shuold know"

Grateful Deadline	Posted - 1/7/2013 10:17:24 PM \| show profile \| flag this post * See? It's not difficult if you think logically. Can you at least try that? * Can you at least try not to be an effin' insult artist? I don't care what you say or think anymore because all you do is run down other people. It's the sum total of what you offer. A lot of room you have to talk about nuts. Go take your head to a shrink, and cut the crap for 2013.

cruiser	Posted - 1/7/2013 10:34:37 PM \| show profile \| flag this post D'ja ever hear the one about keeping your own doorstep clean? You are one of the most obtuse people on here...one with a perpetual chip on your shoulder and vinegar in your mouth. Go look in a mirror then recite your last admonishment.

etaoin shrdlu	Posted - 1/8/2013 9:17:09 AM \| show profile \| flag this post No, this is the dumbest argument, cruzo... when you said: "Doctors DO NOT need to know if there are any firearms in the household. All they need to do is report the names and other information about their patients who exhibit emotional and/or mental instability to NICS." Great way to shut the barn door after the horse has gotten out. Yes, doctors DO need to know. If the person already has access to guns they present a danger if the patient is suicidal or homicidal. Reporting the patient to a database does nothing unless they try to BUY a gun. Mind you, the doctor is allowed to ask about any other item the patient might use to kill himself or others -- just not about guns.

con	Posted - 1/8/2013 9:44:28 AM \| show profile \| flag this post given the history of the democrat party and the words of obama- paranoia is due. and you are more likely to be attacked by someone who votes and thinks like you than you are one of these "nut jobs". talk about paranoia......

cruiser	Posted - 1/8/2013 11:59:25 AM \| show profile \| flag this post "Yes, doctors DO need to know" No, doctors DO NOT need to know. Your attitude is typical of left wing wishful thinking...a desire for centralized government control of everything and everyone. It is a naked attempt at prior restraint and/or social engineering. NEITHER of those is the doctor's duty and neither is permitted under our Constitution and most of the laws in the nation. All a doctor needs to determine is that the patient exhibits traits consistent with mental or emotional illness or distrubance. It then should be the doctor's duty to report those facts to NICS and law enforcement...period. Even at that the doctor must guard against over-zealousness and/or defamation. You left wing radicals must never be permitted to regiment people in violation of their Constitutional and legal rights.

Grateful Deadline	Posted - 1/8/2013 12:51:45 PM \| show profile \| flag this post * D'ja ever hear the one about keeping your own doorstep clean? You are one of the most obtuse people on here...one with a perpetual chip on your shoulder and vinegar in your mouth. Go look in a mirror then recite your last admonishment. * There you go again. Do you have any friends at all? Do you EVER have a day when you feel happy or can smile, or can make someone else smile? Can you remember the last time you complimented somebody, did a favor for somebody, did something to make someone else happy? Do you ever see anybody else as a human being? EVER? The unrelenting nastiness, intolerance and inability to consider anyone except yourself that you show to us here are signs of sullen teenage boys, of a personality disorder, and of middle-age and older adults with early and advance dementia. It is not normal behavior for an adult man, which you claim to be. That's why you need to see a medical professional. I'm not writing this to ridicule you; I'm writing it because what you dish up here is abnormal and preventable. Go take care of yourself. Don't you realize that these other people are only toying with you for their entertainment? You make it easy for them. It isn't because of politics; it's because of your own conduct toward them. It hurts to see it, because you're obviously a deeply troubled individual. The only person who can help you is you, by visiting a health professional. You claim to live in California, where there's no shame in it. Continually reaming out people on this forum isn't going to do anything for you.

etaoin shrdlu	Posted - 1/8/2013 1:00:50 PM \| show profile \| flag this post Wow, cruzo... our "casual readers" have to be laughing their butts off over your idea that doctors -- who are required in their profession to ask all kinds of intimate questions -- should not be allowed to talk to a suicidal patient about all the items in his house that he could use to kill himself. That is the dumbest idea you've put forth here -- that a gun has a right to privacy!

cruiser	Posted - 1/8/2013 1:40:28 PM \| show profile \| flag this post It's perfectly understandable that you would try to change the subject...or twist and convolute the facts of the topic. Your argument is pure bullsh*t and you know it won't pass the smell test.

cruiser	Posted - 1/8/2013 1:41:45 PM \| show profile \| flag this post "The unrelenting nastiness, intolerance and inability to consider anyone except yourself" That PERFECTLY describes you...dearie.

etaoin shrdlu	Posted - 1/8/2013 1:43:29 PM \| show profile \| flag this post Another sign cruzo is trapped... he starts in with name calling and claiming someone has changed the topic rather than defending his indefensible claim. Sorry, cruzo. But your leap of logic indicates you believe guns have a right to privacy that is more important than a doctor-patient relationship.

Grateful Deadline	Posted - 1/8/2013 2:50:56 PM \| show profile \| flag this post Don't egg him on, ES -- he has issues that he handles inappropriately.

cruiser	Posted - 1/8/2013 3:17:46 PM \| show profile \| flag this post The ONLY issue I have...dearie... is a pain in my ass.