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Posted - 7/18/2013 9:26:44 AM | show profile | flag this post
the "This Is Too Important" thread.
Now comes word from a Treasury IG investigator that Christine O'Donnell's personal tax information was improperly accessed when she declared her candidacy for the senate seat vacated by Joe Biden.
On that same day a tax lien was filed against a house that she purportedly owned. The house had previously been sold.
Now the Treasury Dept will not turn over information on who was responsible, saying that even those who improperly access tax records have an assumption of privacy.
To me this is approaching grounds for impeachment if thses kinds of things...which seem to be rampant in this administration...are not identified, prosecuted and equitably handled.
So far we've had no REAL consequences from Benghazi, from Fast & Furious, from DOJ spying on reporters or from the IRS targeting conservative groups and individuals.
Posted - 7/18/2013 11:18:33 AM | show profile | flag this post
I think you need to revive
your "self imposed absence".
"To me this is approaching grounds for impeachment". To you, the very idea that Obama is still drawing breath is grounds for impeachment. (un-named sources, a maybe rogue IRS agent, and a closed investigation, all that adds up to 'high crimes and midemeanors??)
"So far we've had no REAL consequences from"...bullsh*t, bullsh*t, bullsh*t, and bullsh*t. But we're hopeful...
Posted - 7/18/2013 11:24:58 AM | show profile | flag this post
Given your political paradigm
I don't expect you to see these issues rationally.
Posted - 7/24/2013 4:05:49 PM | show profile | flag this post
Isn't it just like the Democrats?
Dirty tricks and more dirty tricks.
Now comes word that Delaware state officials...those who improperly (criminally?) accessed the private tax records of then-Senate candidate Christine O'Donnell...claim that the records of the improper access have been destroyed.
Yeah, I'll bet they have. That probably happened right after the Treasury IG revealed that Ms. O'Donnell's records had been improperly accessed.
And the idiots at the DOJ are saying that even those who improperly accessed Ms. O'Donnell's records have a right of privacy and refused to turn over information to Senator Chuck Grassley, whose office is investigating. (See the original post for the link)
Can you imagine??? A "right of privacy" for criminal acts??? We took an egregiously wrong turn on November 4, 2008.
Posted - 7/24/2013 5:01:30 PM | show profile | flag this post
What About the IRS?!
Going after progressive organizations and occupy groups?
This is too important.
Post! Post! Post!
Posted - 7/24/2013 5:14:13 PM | show profile | flag this post
The fact is
while they LISTED progressive and occupy groups (likely after the fact...and nobody will ever be able to prove differently) they never went AFTER them. And the ratio was hundreds of conservative groups to a handful of progressives.
This was a massive CYA exercise.
Notice that there was no mention of progressive groups until a couple weeks after the revelation that the IRS was targeting conservatives.
Posted - 7/24/2013 5:34:26 PM | show profile | flag this post
cruise lying through his teeth.
"The fact is while they LISTED progressive and occupy groups...they never went AFTER them. And the ratio was hundreds of conservative groups to a handful of progressives."
Wrong. From the actual hearings: "Rep. Peter Roskam, R-IL: "How come only conservative groups got snagged?"
Outgoing acting IRS commissioner Steve Miller: "They didn't sir. Organizations of all walks and all persuasions were pulled in. That’s shown by the fact that only 70 of the 300 organizations were tea party organizations, of the ones that were looked at by TIGTA [Treasury Inspector General for Tax Administration]."
And from Bloomberg reporting: "IRS Sent Same Letter to Democrats That Fed Tea Party Row"
One of those groups, Emerge America, saw its tax-exempt status denied, forcing it to disclose its donors and pay some taxes. None of the Republican groups have said their applications were rejected. Progress Texas ... faced the same lines of questioning as the Tea Party groups from the same IRS office that issued letters to the Republican-friendly applicants. A third group, Clean Elections Texas, which supports public funding of campaigns, also received IRS inquiries.
This is the bottom line: 1) The IRS is required to determine whether organizations applying for special tax status are "social welfare" groups or are instead engaged in political activity. Political groups cannot get the special tax status these groups were applying for.
2) Only one-third of the groups that were passed to specialists for a closer look were "conservative." Lots of other organizations were also checked, including progressive organizations.
3) No groups were audited or harassed or "targeted" or "singled out." This was about applications for special tax status being forwarded to specialists for a closer look to see if they were engaged in political activity that would disqualify them for the special tax status. This closer look is the kind of review all organization should get, but the IRS was swamped because of the flood of groups applying for a status that let them mask their donors, after Citizens United.
HOW, WHY cruise do say crap like "The fact is.." and then spit out conjecture and guesswork?? ("likely after the fact...and nobody will ever be able to prove..")
Posted - 7/24/2013 5:42:05 PM | show profile | flag this post
By the way cruise
You never admitted you were taken in by the internet hoax that now departed IRS Commissioner, Douglas Shulman, visited the White House 158 times during his years serving the Obama Administration...
You were all giddy about how that showed some conspiracy about something (Granted, all kinds of right wing media types swallowed the samehoax), but as long as you're throwing "Facts" around, you may want to admit you were wrong.
Posted - 7/24/2013 6:10:45 PM | show profile | flag this post
I Don't Know cruiser
Looks like your argument was shot down buddy.
Now do the right thing. Post 300+ times in defense of progressive and occupy groups involved in the IRS scandal.
If you don't, people are going to accuse you of being a biased right wing nut job troll.
Posted - 7/24/2013 9:48:09 PM | show profile | flag this post
i reiterate my belief that cruiztwit..
is being paid to do this..
and who knows how many other sites and boards he has inflicted himself on?
he'll have to prove he isn't being paid..the Koch brothers will hire anyone who toes their party line..
Posted - 7/24/2013 10:36:02 PM | show profile | flag this post
interesting theory, orth.
Posted - 7/25/2013 9:24:28 AM | show profile | flag this post
this is typical of what happens to the enemies of the left.
remember joe the plumber?
of course there isn't going to be any " REAL consequences". why would democrats/liberal media want to hold their messiah accountable?
Posted - 7/25/2013 9:48:29 AM | show profile | flag this post
Keep up the phony scandals, cruzo...
they are making the Republican Party less and less relevant every day.
You, and other conservatives who've jumped on the birther bandwagon and every phony scandal since, have destroyed the GOP's credibility.
You're making it easy for Democrats to win elections for years to come!
Posted - 7/26/2013 5:55:03 PM | show profile | flag this post
Phony??? Not at all
Obama is the most scandal-ridden president in history. Even the widely-reviled Nixon couldn't measure up to the current president's scandals.
Posted - 7/26/2013 6:43:08 PM | show profile | flag this post
Obama is the most scandal-ridden president in history
Good post cruiser.
Of course it's not true, not even close to true, and you'll be made to look like a total f@cking idiot for posting it.
But in the short time it sits here before you're, once again, slaughtered by factual counter posts, it makes you look like a bold defender of liberty.
Enjoy it. It won't last long!
Posted - 7/26/2013 7:07:55 PM | show profile | flag this post
List of Obama Scandals
To help you out cruiser.
1 Iran-Contra Affair
2 Department of Housing and Urban Development grant rigging
3 Lobbying scandal
4 EPA scandals
5 Inslaw Affair
6 Savings & loan crisis
Oh wait! Those are Ronald Reagan scandals!!
Hmmmmm, maybe you should revive your self imposed silence. You were never more respected and admired.
Posted - 7/26/2013 7:12:57 PM | show profile | flag this post
Even better cruster;
maybe he'll revive the "For all of you left wingers who supported her" thread...never did hear how that one ended up, and I hate cliff-hangers...
Posted - 7/26/2013 7:31:47 PM | show profile | flag this post
Okay cruiser Here You Go
This list will definitely help.
US Attorney firings
Patient neglect at Walter Reed Army Hospital
Libby/Plame Affair (Outing a CIA agent)
Civilian contractors in Iraq (poor service for big bucks)
NSA warrantless wiretapping
Black sites and rendition
There! Now all you have to do is... DOH!
Those are George W. Bush scandals.
I did it AGAIN!!!!
Sorry cruise old buddy old pal. Guess the clock is ticking on the whole "f@cking idiot" thing.
Posted - 8/2/2013 8:43:01 AM | show profile | flag this post
Report: IRS Scrutiny Worse For Conservatives
A House Ways and Means Committee staff analysis of the applications of 111 conservative and progressive groups applying for tax exempt status found conservative applicants faced, “more questions, more denials, more delays,” says committee Chairman Dave Camp, R-Mich. That is, when the IRS sent groups letters asking for further information, conservative groups were asked more questions — on average, three times more. All of the groups with “progressive” in their name were ultimately approved, while only 46 percent of conservative groups won approval. Others are still waiting for an answer or gave up.
phony scandal? not so much.....
Posted - 8/2/2013 8:55:15 AM | show profile | flag this post
another phony scandal......
Since January, some CIA operatives involved in the agency’s missions in Libya, have been subjected to frequent, even monthly polygraph examinations, according to a source with deep inside knowledge of the agency’s workings…
It is being described as pure intimidation, with the threat that any unauthorized CIA employee who leaks information could face the end of his or her career…
Another [insider] says, “You have no idea the amount of pressure being brought to bear on anyone with knowledge of this operation.”…
Among the many secrets still yet to be told about the Benghazi mission, is just how many Americans were there the night of the attack.
A source now tells CNN that number was 35, with as many as seven wounded, some seriously.
While it is still not known how many of them were CIA, a source tells CNN that 21 Americans were working in the building known as the annex, believed to be run by the agency.
there is no there there....
what difference – at this point, does the truth make ?
Posted - 8/2/2013 4:26:44 PM | show profile | flag this post
con: Does the phrase
"preconceived notion" ring a bell? Like the vast majority of wingnuts out there, you only hear what you want to listen to.
"Report: IRS Scrutiny Worse For Conservatives" That's a headline for a blog entry, it's not a fact.
(You) "A House Ways and Means Committee staff analysis of the applications of 111 conservative and progressive groups applying for tax exempt status found conservative applicants faced, “more questions, more denials, more delays"
The "Staff Analysis" was done by the staff for the Republican member. Yea. That won't be skewed. We've been thru this before. It's the JOB of the IRS to go thru applications from groups claiming "Hey! We're not political!! We should be Tax-exempt!! (Signed, Karl Rove. Or, signed, James Carville) Right.
And why did this "staff analysis" cherry pick only 111 applications? That's like saying the IRS only demands income tax only from rich people--because we looked at the list of the richest 100 Americans and they were all taxed.
All that happened here is that groups applying to the IRS for special tax status were checked to see if they were engaged in political activity. They were checked, not targeted. Only one-third of the groups checked were conservative groups.
Once again: Only one-third of the groups checked were conservative groups. Conservative groups were not "singled out," were not "targeted" and in the end none were denied special tax status -- even though many obviously should have been.
AGAIN: From the testimony: "Rep. Peter Roskam, R-IL: "How come only conservative groups got snagged?"
Outgoing acting IRS commissioner Steve Miller: "They didn't sir. Organizations of all walks and all persuasions were pulled in. That's shown by the fact that only 70 of the 300 organizations were tea party organizations, of the ones that were looked at by TIGTA [Treasury Inspector General for Tax Administration]."
Posted - 8/2/2013 4:41:19 PM | show profile | flag this post
"Only one-third of the groups checked were
conservative groups. Conservative groups were not 'singled out,' were not 'targeted' and in the end none were denied special tax status -- even though many obviously should have been."
This is a bullsh*t story concocted by the Obama administration...which got caught with its hand in the cookie jar.
It was only after several weeks of revelations about the IRS targeting that the story of liberal groups meeting the same fate was rolled out...plenty of time to invent such a story and the necessary supporting "evidence."
As for the "none were denied" aspect of your disingenuous response, there were a lot of conservative groups represented by Jay Sekulow and other DC attorneys that had not received word on their applications as long as three years after applying...and well into the beginning of the investigation.
This is DE FACTO denial.
Posted - 8/2/2013 5:01:53 PM | show profile | flag this post
"I think I need to revive"
You're right, you do need to revive.