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| thesecondcoming |
Posted - 11/7/2012 5:30:11 AM | show profile | flag this post
I have no clue why America votes this way in a lousy economy.
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| con |
Posted - 11/7/2012 7:23:16 AM | show profile | flag this post
it is hard to win elections when you have the media against you.
reagan won-over the objections of the media. romney is no reagan. the media will have a harder time defending obama's failed policies this time around.
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| cruster |
Posted - 11/7/2012 11:35:51 AM | show profile | flag this post
con is RIGHT!
This is ALL the media's fault!
How could you be wrong thesecondcoming? Maybe the media is lying about the outcome as I predicted.
After all, it's the media's fault, right? It can't be that the Republican party no longer represents a large portion of Americans. No, it can't be that at all.
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| livinliberal |
Posted - 11/7/2012 12:09:19 PM | show profile | flag this post
Wait a minute...
You guys brag about how great Fox's ratings are...then cry because it's the other media that is swaying coverage. Look, the people have spoken. Period. Mitt Romney signaled a return to the failed policies of Bush while Barack Obama will take us back to the prosperity of Clinton. Higher taxes for the rich, more money into middle class pockets. Balanced budgets and an economy that will be jump started. Pretty easy to figure out. You pinheads just have to come to the realization that your God Ronnie was fucked up in the mind and that trickle down only applies to shit. It's a great day for America...thank God the people came to their senses again!
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| orthicon |
Posted - 11/7/2012 12:33:24 PM | show profile | flag this post
great cartoon in the morning fishwrapper..
guy sitting in a chair on his front lawn, holding up a big sign..
which reads:
"..now everybody shut up and get a life.."
words to live by..
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| cdnreprtr |
Posted - 11/7/2012 12:33:45 PM | show profile | flag this post
Simple...
.... polls over the past months show more americans believe the economy is getting better than getting worse.
With that, Romney couldn't win.
He ran a one note campaign, that the economy was trashed and only he could fix it.
He had no plan B.
And his solution, to middle and working class voters, was to give more breaks to corporations and its executives (like him) that are, right now, making record profits and reaping stock market highs, and are not suffering whatsoever .. and are not investing in jobs and the US economy.
And to demonize government.
His solution, was no solution. He could promise, but not provide details or deliver.
Obama could point to a record of stimulus and real gains, however weak, and say ... who do you trust?
Superstorm Sandy reinforced that.
Even without that: Romney's numbers with women tanked because of abortion, significant sifts from elderly because of medicare, and little to no support from African Americans, Latino or youth.
Reagan built a wide tent for his majority.
That tent has collapsed.
Not everyone is in the Dem tent, but at least it is open.
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| mpdodgson |
Posted - 11/7/2012 1:53:23 PM | show profile | flag this post
secondcoming
You should have stopped at "I have no clue"
As for the economy, exit polls showed voters know it's improving--and that Bush was still more responsible for the Great Recession that Obama. Suck on those facts.
But it's the Demos that count (First Read): " Yes, the auto bailout mattered in Ohio. Sure, Hurricane Sandy helped the president. And, yes, the economy was the No. 1 issue. But make no mistake: What happened last night was a demographic time bomb that had been ticking and that blew up in GOP faces. As the Obama campaign had assumed more than a year ago, the white portion of the electorate dropped to 72%, and the president won just 39% of that vote. But he carried a whopping 93% of black voters (representing 13% of the electorate), 71% of Latinos (representing 10%), and also 73% of Asians (3%). What’s more, despite all the predictions that youth turnout would be down, voters 18-29 made up 19% of last night’s voting population -- up from 18% four years ago -- and President Obama took 60% from that group. The trend also played out in the key battleground states: The president won about 70% of the Latino vote in Colorado and Nevada, and he won 60% of it in Florida (a high number given the state’s large GOP-leaning Cuban-American population). On Monday, we wrote that demography could determine destiny. And that’s exactly what happened. While the campaign’s turnout operation deserves all the credit for getting these voters to the polls, the most significant event of this presidential contest might very well have been the 2010 census."
Appealing to middle aged white men while outright insulting Blacks, Latinos, and Women??? Dumb dumb dumb.
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| cdnreprtr |
Posted - 11/7/2012 2:19:05 PM | show profile | flag this post
Good point MP...
... The GOP GOTV troops were absolutely spectacular for the past 20-30 years. Their ground game was unequalled.
but Dems learned that lesson in 2000.
I think the RNC underestimated the real gains of Dem organization in OH, Fl, PA and other swing states, and dismissed it as part of the 2008 Obama-mania and popular trend.
The DNC has really stepped up to the plate on these basics. and there's the youth volunteerism that drives the enthusiasm and needed workforce.
But one lesson here as well: the impact of PACs.
the right wing far outspent the left on post-Citizens United, 3rd part ads and efforts.
There may be a few races where it had an impact, but look at the results, even outside the POTUS race: legalization, gay marriage, etc ... i think the Kochs' will be rethinking thier value for money.
Dem donations, for the most part went directly to the campaigns.
dunno, maybe the lesson is the GOP will even try to relax third party constraints more, try to break down the legal bulkheads .. but to me they are just scattering and diluting campaign messages and focus. it works against the candidate and forces them to react to their own instead of dominate the opponent ..
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| etaoin shrdlu |
Posted - 11/7/2012 2:50:52 PM | show profile | flag this post
I'll give credit to secondcoming...
for saying he was wrong and doing so so shortly after the election.
Even if he qualified his comments, it's hard to admit your wrong when you believe so strongly in something that just doesn't materialize.
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| mpdodgson |
Posted - 11/7/2012 3:28:07 PM | show profile | flag this post
Ok, I'll agree with that
secondcoming? I'll agree it took some class to admit you were wrong so fast--But here's the thing--
"...in a lousy economy"
I've forgotten how many times I said "It's NOT JUST the economy stupid"--and I was right. It was insulting the Latinos, it was insulting women, it was collateral damage from idiots like West, Smith, Akin, and Mourdock. It was getting OBL. It was Mitt's constant flip-flopping. And it was even the exit polls that show the majority of Americans wants a MIX of taxes and budget cuts. It was getting out or Iraq. It was a whole mixed bag of things--
Including a horrible candidate who couldn't help lying all the time. It WAS NOT just the economy stupid.
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| cruiser |
Posted - 11/7/2012 4:15:41 PM | show profile | flag this post
"Mitt Romney signaled a return to
the failed policies of Bush"
That is a left wing talking point with no basis in fact...and you got sucked it.
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| cruiser |
Posted - 11/7/2012 4:18:22 PM | show profile | flag this post
Correction...
sucked in.
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| orthicon |
Posted - 11/7/2012 4:46:47 PM | show profile | flag this post
also props for secondcoming..
he took it like a man..
would that others would follow his lead..
elsewhere.. has turd blossom conceded ohio yet?
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| VTexan |
Posted - 11/7/2012 6:24:46 PM | show profile | flag this post
A Rare Compliment for Secondcoming
You were wrong, you said so, and you took your hits.
In a place like that, that takes cojones. Given that you're one of my favorite targets when you're quite wrong, not noting when you're quite right...wouldn't be right.
Tip o' the hat.
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| etaoin shrdlu |
Posted - 11/7/2012 8:16:18 PM | show profile | flag this post
Orthicon...
Karl Rove convinced a bunch of billionaires with nearly unchecked power that if they'd give him $3 billion, he'd deliver the White House.
Karl Rove is no longer contesting Ohio. He's in the Witness Protection Program.
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| orthicon |
Posted - 11/7/2012 9:31:07 PM | show profile | flag this post
o.k...good riddance..now, how do we get rid of..
grover norquist?...
he's gotta be next on somebody's hit list..
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