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newscred Posted - 7/3/2013 2:55:01 PM | show profile | flag this post

A clever (and sleezy) political move by your leader over there at Chicago-on-the-Potomac. Delaying the mess that was going to be the implementation of Obamacare until after the 2014 elections in order to keep the stink off democrats running for office.

Obama is very good at the sleezy Chicago stuff, but as a president who believes in this country, he fails.

cruiser Posted - 7/3/2013 3:28:46 PM | show profile | flag this post

Indubitably

He only believes in himself. Not the congress, nor the courts, nor established law or precedent. A legend in his own mind.

mpdodgson Posted - 7/3/2013 4:45:23 PM | show profile | flag this post

Severe case of Obamaphobia again.

This reminds me of the old joke that if Obama did walk on water...it would prove to wingnuts 'blacks can't swim'...

"A clever (and sleezy) political move..." (Because the WH listened to legit complaints??? If they didn't, Obama is vilified as a Dictator who does whatever he wants. When they DO listen and change rules, it's "A clever (and sleezy) political move ". Gotcha.

"...by your leader over there at Chicago-on-the-Potomac." He's NOT your President? and you're still here, why?? And did we have 'Crawford on the Potomac' for eight years and I missed it??

"Delaying the mess that was going to be the implementation of Obamacare..." Really?? You're that ignorant of the law? 71 Million Kids & Adults With Private Insurance Have Received No-Cost Preventive Care. Discrimination By Insurance Companies For Children With Pre-Existing Conditions Was Banned. Consumers Received $1.1 Billion in Rebates From Their Insurance Companies. 3.1 Million More Young Adults Have Health Insurance Through Their Parent’s Plan. Seniors Have Saved More Than $6.1 Billion on Their Prescription Drugs Since 2010. All of that has been the law.

So what did the WH do?? They LISTENED to larger businesses that they're still worried about paying the penalties. FINE. You've got another year. [What's the employer mandate? In practical terms, the policy name is a bit of misnomer -- there is no actual "mandate." Under the Affordable Care Act, businesses with 50 or more full-time employees are told they need to offer health care coverage to their employees, but those who choose not to pay a fairly modest tax penalty. As of last night, that penalty won't kick in, at the earliest, before 2015]"

And FOR THIS, the WH gets lambasted anyway. THOSE BASTARDS giving companies a break. Typical Dictator Marxist commie.

Oh yea...cruise??... your "He only believes in himself. Not the congress, nor the courts, nor established law or precedent." AGAIN, ObamaCare was passed by an elected Congress, signed by the President, and ccertified by the Supreme Court. All legal, all in public. Should we all watse the taxpayers time by trying to repeal this for the 38th, 39th, 40th time...?

Grateful Deadline Posted - 7/3/2013 4:48:45 PM | show profile | flag this post

Dredging up more old "news" and posting it incompletely again, eh, our cavalier little news-illiterate pals?

Here ya go:

Key Obamacare provision delayed
kevin-liptak
Posted by
CNN's Kevin Liptak

Updated at 11:00 p.m. ET on Tuesday, July 2

Washington (CNN) - The requirement that businesses provide their workers with health insurance or face fines – a key provision contained in President Barack Obama's sweeping health care law – will be delayed by one year, the Treasury Department said Tuesday.

The postponement came after business owners expressed concerns about the complexity of the law’s reporting requirements, the agency said in its announcement. Under the Affordable Care Act, businesses employing 50 or more full-time workers that don't provide them health insurance will be penalized.

"We recognize that the vast majority of businesses that will need to do this reporting already provide health insurance to their workers, and we want to make sure it is easy for others to do so. We have listened to your feedback. And we are taking action," Mark J. Mazur, assistant secretary for tax policy, wrote in a post on the website of the Treasury Department, which is tasked with implementing the employer mandate.

Mazur said the extra year before the requirement goes into effect will allow the government time to assess ways to simplify the reporting process for businesses. Penalties for firms not providing health coverage to employees will now begin in 2015 – after next year’s congressional elections.

The new delay will not affect other aspects of the health law, including the establishment of exchanges in states for low-income Americans to obtain health insurance.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2013/07/02/key-obamacare-provision-delayed/



cruster Posted - 7/3/2013 9:15:33 PM | show profile | flag this post

So Sneaky

Doing all this in the open through congress and the courts!

Why this is indubitaly another scandal like the one Obama used to bring down Paula Deen.

cruiser, butter yourself up and use the N-word again!!



cruiser Posted - 7/4/2013 1:00:41 AM | show profile | flag this post

The power in the so-called "n" word

is the fact that fools like the previous poster are scared shitless to utter it...even in a context that is in no way racist or demeaning. That makes fools into puppets of a segment of society.

cruster Posted - 7/4/2013 1:21:18 AM | show profile | flag this post

" scared shitless to utter it"

The N-word of course!

But you utter it cruiser. In your mouth, your voice, your mind, your heart.

For you cruiser, the spirit of the N-word and all words that conjure anger, hate, and the vile bitterness of history are sustenance. They define you.

You wear them like a banner to declare you soul. All while hiding from view.

What courage.





orthicon Posted - 7/4/2013 1:33:03 AM | show profile | flag this post

and i'm sure you can tell us, cruiztwit..

exactly what that non-racist, non-demeaning context would be..

please enlighten us..

herr Goebbels..

con Posted - 7/6/2013 9:37:06 AM | show profile | flag this post

crusties single white female obsession with cruiser continues.

hide your pets, cruiser.....

make no mistake. this was done so democrats won't be hurt by obamacare in 2014 like they were in 2010. this isn't about listening to businesses.

most americans want obamacare repealed. americans want a healthcare bill that won't raise their premiums, force them into new plans, cost jobs, cause business to cut hours, add to the deficit, and help the economy.

any wonder why obama has such a hard time mentioning the the unaffordable healthcare act by name?

mpdodgson Posted - 7/6/2013 11:30:01 AM | show profile | flag this post

con reminds me of a comment

I read earlier this week; "These requirements are ridiculous! It will never work! You're not giving people enough time! Argle bargle! What?! You're extending the deadlines?! That's not fair! For some reason! That I can't quite think of right now! But get back to me..."

Polls do show that the label "Obamacare" is still not liked, but it's provisions are (as high as 71%, 80% and 88%)
http://www.policymic.com/articles/30657/obamacare-on-3-year-anniversary-public-is-still-misinformed-on-law

What's much more important is why Congress' approval is about 10%. STOP this 'Repeal Obamacare for the 30th time; Abortion bills, etc, and deal with the economy and jobs.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/163298/americans-say-economy-top-worry-nation-future.aspx

Thanks to Boehner/Cantor/etal, this Congress is on its way to being the least productive in history. Though they did pass that 'Freedom to Fish Act' and nailing down how large Baseball hall of Fame coins should be.
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/L?d113:./list/bd/d113pl.lst:1%5b1-15%5d(Public_Laws)|TOM:/bss/d113query.html|

And what does this mean? "any wonder why obama has such a hard time mentioning the the unaffordable healthcare act by name?" He's called it both the Affordable Care Act, and Obamacare. He has reason to be proud of it either way.

It's watching Republican lawmakers and businessmen trip all over themselves that's embarassing.

etaoin shrdlu Posted - 7/8/2013 9:57:16 AM | show profile | flag this post

Con and cruzo got just what they wanted...

a delay in Obamacare.

Now they're complaining about it.

No wonder the right has lost their way in American politics -- they're chasing their tails, going around in circles and can't even define what they want!


proudliberal Posted - 7/8/2013 10:50:11 AM | show profile | flag this post

Too bad repubs don't have an alternative...

If the right had negotiated with Obama we might have come up with something workable that both sides agreed on. As it was, the Act was sliced up so that it was nothing like the original and isn't as good as it should have been. But the repubs have never come up with an actual plan, just attempts to stop it from being passed and then countless attempts to repeal it. No one will ever take you seriously until you actually do something. Your whole strategy through Obama's years in office is to block everything, even though you have a House majority. The most worthless bunch of idiots in U.S. political history. Your side could have made a difference, and instead all they did was nothing.

con Posted - 7/8/2013 1:58:29 PM | show profile | flag this post

really mpdodgson? how many times did obama mention the uaffordable care act by name during his 2012 dnc convention speech? none? his signature legislation and obama couldn't mention it by name on his night?



Grateful Deadline Posted - 7/8/2013 3:34:13 PM | show profile | flag this post

The ACA was signed into law March 23, TWO THOUSAND TEN.

The DNC was held in September TWO THOUSAND TWELVE.

Do the math: The convention speech was delivered nearly two-and-one-half ***YEARS*** after the ACA was signed.

In his speech, President Obama alluded to it this way: "As citizens, we understand that America is not about what can be done for us. It's about what can be done by us, together through the hard and frustrating but necessary work of self-government. That's what we believe. ...

"You're the reason there's a little girl with a heart disorder in Phoenix who'll get the surgery she needs because an insurance company can't limit her coverage. You did that. "

So. There it is. He did what you claimed he didn't do. You posted another lie.

Once again, you wasted everybody's time.

It has nothing to do with your political affiliation, and everything to do with character and intellect.

etaoin shrdlu Posted - 7/8/2013 4:11:12 PM | show profile | flag this post

So true, grateful...

but you gotta remember that to the cons and cruzos out there, unless he says something very specific, just the way they want it, it doesn't count to them.

He may refer to Benghazi specifically as an "act of terror," but unless he spells it out as "The attack on Benghazi was a terrorist attack" -- they can't hear it.

Likewise, unless he specifically referred to the instance you mentioned with the specific word "Obamacare," it doesn't count in their world.

Of course, they probably spend their time between parsing the president's words in such an infantile manner by complaining to their respective parents/cousins by claiming each other is "touching me"/"no I'm not."

con Posted - 7/8/2013 7:08:29 PM | show profile | flag this post

"You posted another lie."

firing before we aim again grateful deadline? perhaps rereading what i posted will help you.

you show character and intellect is something you know not.......

mpdodgson Posted - 7/8/2013 10:53:57 PM | show profile | flag this post

And for the record con...

The President specifically mentioned it (REPEATEDLY--Even by "ObamaCare" all during the last campaign)...And on Election Night ("his night" shall we say?), and in his Ignaugaral speech, and the State of the Union. There's a whole section on the Affordable Care Act on the WH website.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/issues/health-care

So when you say crap like "why obama has such a hard time mentioning the the unaffordable healthcare act by name?"...maybe you should check that out before shooting your mouth off. Just some friendly advice.



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