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Just an observation
Posted - 4/26/2013 11:53:04 PM | show profile | flag this post
I was watching a newscast and a short sot/vo popped up showing Michael Buble singing with a group of men on a subway platform. Guess it was a spontaneous thing.
I was struck by the visual of the small crowd who were watching and listening. During the entire report almost every one of the crowd had a camera phone firmly held in front of their face as they watched the performance in their viewfinders.
What ever happened to the idea of people using their own eyes and ears to enjoy the moment?
Technology is great, but sometimes you wonder how smartly the human race uses it.
Posted - 4/27/2013 12:46:00 AM | show profile | flag this post
not quite sure i understand the problem here..
you can watch it once for the pleasure at the time, or you can record it on your phone camera, and return to enjoy it again and again..
unless i'm missing something?...
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Posted - 4/27/2013 11:22:50 AM | show profile | flag this post
NY subway performance
First, this was a publicity stunt to promote Buble's new cd. There was nothing spontaneous about it. That said, it was great! Great venue, appropriate for the style of music and you're going to get a decent crowd. The video I've seen on tv and the web seems to come from the same source ... (watch, enjoy) ...
The quality is good (might we see some of this video in an "official video"?). The person shooting the event knows what s/he is doing. This is not from some random person's iphone.
Kudos to Buble's pr/marketing people. In my career, I've covered many lame pr "events" and a very few that were well done. The subway stunt (I mean that in the nicest possible way) was very well done. I was introduced to Naturally 7 and they were awesome. I enjoyed the music, I may actually buy the cd.
Second, what is wrong with people taking pictures? I understand what newscred is saying, that too many people view their world on the small "smart phone" screen. I see far too many people walking down the street on a beautiful sunny day with their heads down, texting someone about some stupid thing instead of enjoying the beautiful world God has given us, especially during the spring. I'm not even going to get into the dangers of not paying attention.
The Buble event was fun. I'd probably want to record it, too (ok, I'm thinking of it in terms of documenting something that might air). It's a great thing that people think about documenting events that are important to them or "just cuz". I'm so thankful that I have family and ancestors who recorded video, film and still pictures of important family moments. I can watch those and learn a bit more about those people at the events that took place before I was born. It'd really suck if they had thought "I don't want a camera in front of my face" during something really important.
Yes, you need to have a balance. A few weeks ago, my niece was baptized by her great-grandfather. I was given permission to take pictures during the rite. I was able to be in the moment and capture the moments. I wouldn't do anything differently and I will always have the wonderful experience of a wonderful family event. The family loves the pictures. There are no other images like these for any other family member. I consider them precious. I don't feel like I missed out on the moment, I feel I captured the moment. I have the pic of the moment of the wide shot of "in the name of the Father" ... I zoomed in during the "and the Son"... and I have the pic tight during "and the Holy Spirit".
I can and have hit record on my smart phone and been able to look to the side to watch and experience the actual event while I'm recording. If some people can't do that, I'm very sorry.
Posted - 4/27/2013 2:23:06 PM | show profile | flag this post
Well said, itsjusttvfolks. Certainly understand what you're saying about cherished moments being saved and the wonders of seeing family history through pictures. I think what bothers me is that people so readily pick up their phones and stare at the screen without standing there absorbing into their memory, through their own eyes, special moments. I'm not saying taking video is wrong. I'm just saying there may be something lost to the person who's shooting the video; detaching themselves from the experience of what they're watching. Another example of camera vs eye moment was when the shuttles were being airlifted to various cities before being put on permanent display. It was obvious the media was covering each flyover, but still you saw crowds of people watching through the back of their cameras for that short moment when the space shuttle flew by on the back of the 747. Taking it all in with your own eyes is, in my opinion, more satisfying.
Posted - 4/27/2013 3:38:32 PM | show profile | flag this post
sure.. but the other side of that coin is..
people are able to aim their cameras so that they can capture the sights that are pleasing them the most..
thereby guaranteeing that they'll have those memories at their beck and call when they want them..the way they want them..
that'd be my choice, although i see the other side as well..
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Posted - 4/28/2013 1:43:56 PM | show profile | flag this post
The ability to zoom in
gives a person the ability to see something closer and usually better than the eye can provide. The space shuttle shuffle is an exellent example of a zoomed in shot that would be great to have. I did see/cover part of that and it was pretty cool. My smartphone did ok giving me images, but the video sucked compared to professionally shot tv video. Our photogs/photojournalists bring us great video and usually they can only view a historic moment through their small, black and white, viewfinder. They also have to be thinking ahead to what shots will be needed to edit a story about the event. If it's being aired live, they have to add that to their shooting process. I'm just saying kudos to those that do a great job shooting these events. Of course there are those who get paid to shoot events, yet they really suck at it. I hope you know who you are.
I have a small 8mp camera. It takes ok video, but really pretty awesome stills. I get great family pics from it. I love concerts and I get some really good stills with my camera. The video I've taken with that camera is so-so. I'm so spoiled by video taken by broadcast professional videographers .
I have questioned whether I'm missing too much by taking pics, documenting an event I'm at, but I don't feel I've lost out on anything and I have some great memories captured in pictures.
If I'm an average Joe at an event in the back of the pack, yeah, I'm going to hold up my smartphone and hit record. I'll be enjoying the sounds while I'm recording. When it's all said and done, I'll have some video of an event I couldn't really see live because of my position, but I could hear.
Now I personally don't do this much and I think I should do a better job of sharing ... if I'm experiencing something interesting, pretty neat, really cool, awesome, etc, I hope I will hit record so that I can share it with friends. When my news instincts kick in, I want to share with viewers.
Again newscred, I think we agree that we see far too many people who have decided to view the real world through a viewfinder or the small monitor of a smartphone. I see far too many people who never look up from their texts, twits, emails, etc to see the wonderful world around them. It is their right to live their lives through a tiny screen. Technology is great and technology can lead to a great quality of life as well as a shallow quality of life.
You, newscred, have to be careful of how your frame your arguments. Someone could just as easily justify with your arument that we have professional law enforcement people out there to protect us so we don't need to have our own guns. I don't own a gun, don't want a gun, don't need a gun, but I don't believe in outlawing all gun, just the ridiculous guns meant to kill humans. Again newscred, I get your point, but someone could just as easily apply your point to individual rights to any freedoms.
A very well done pr event in the NYC subway, shot by a good professional, shouldn't result in the castigation of average folk who decide they also want to record the event.
Posted - 4/29/2013 9:32:08 AM | show profile | flag this post
The people recording the event...
on their phones aren't just observing -- they're sharing the experience.
That's the point this kind of personal technology. It empowers people to share their experiences more effectively.
This isn't about a personal experience, but about people wanting to interact with their community of friends and families. They're better able to tell their social circle about the experience by saying "Hey, look at this!" than by trying to describe the experience of seeing Michael Buble singing.
Posted - 4/29/2013 10:58:03 AM | show profile | flag this post
Louis CK routine...
This is directly from a routine in Louis CK's latest HBO show. Very funny and quite brilliant.
Bottom line is the art of storytelling is dead. People don't know how to describe an event anymore, they just post a video. The thing is life is happening right in front of you; in full color, 3-D, surround sound, perfecting lighting, and yet for so many people life is viewed through a flat screen 3x4 32 bit color display. Sad, sad, sad.
Posted - 4/29/2013 1:30:33 PM | show profile | flag this post
handheld computers, cameras and social media networks are just more tools to tell a story.
Posted - 4/29/2013 2:04:47 PM | show profile | flag this post
But along the lines of what etaoin said, I'd remind people that 'modern technology' has helped to foster story telling, not hinder it.
Surveys have shown that people with E-Books, Kindles, etc, read MORE that those of us who still use the paper version...and not just the newer books, but the classics as well. And, media has sparked an incredible boost in youth reading as well. YOU may not like Harry Potter, or Hunger Games, or whatever, but kids eat it up--and read further. Nothing wrong with that.
"Story telling" is most definitely NOT dead. Just progressing. We went from Oral Fables to hand-written to printed word to cinema to television to hand held media. You still need the story.
PS to blackedtape (and everyone else) I think CK is a friggin genius. IF you have not seen his take on 'Cell Phones & Flying'--you HAVE to watch this...the clean version from Conan:
The (very) NSFW version audio:
Posted - 4/29/2013 2:55:24 PM | show profile | flag this post
I've been making stained glass windows for a LONG time. Like 35 years. I go a couple of years without making them. Then I make 6 or 8 in 6 months. A hobby, but more.
Couple of months ago the station had a shortfall and laid me and one other person off. So I've been doing some freelance and some stained glass.
Lately I've started using Facebook to market the glass. After getting a client to agree on a window, I'll cut a bunch of glass and lay it out on the pattern, and post that, shot on iphone, with moves, with music. The client gets to see the window in progress. Then I start leading the window together, and more Facebook posts. I get the whole thing leaded out, more Facebook. Solder it, finish it out, put it in a window with the sun behind it, shoot it, and put it on Facebook.
The client's bought two windows and I now have 2 other clients asking for designs. It's weird how all these posts above have interesting, valid, thoughtful perspectives. And here's another: showing a client their window being created, from beginning to end. A different kind of slice out of time.
So what's the end product look like? Here you go: http://www.flickr.com/photos/jadinamo/8678678519/sizes/k/in/photostream/