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Lax gun law enforcement...is anyone surprised?
Posted - 3/28/2013 2:02:44 PM | show profile | flag this post
Three of the cities with the highest incidents of firearm violence and gun law violations are DEAD LAST in federal enforcement. They are Chicago (last), Los Angeles (just above) and New York (third from last). Washington, DC, ranks 78th out of 90 in federal enforcement of firearms laws.
All four of these areas rank lower...and in some cases, MUCH lower...than previous years.
Could Obama or other parts of the federal government be using this phenomenon to justify stiffer gun laws?
Food for thought.
And just when you thought the left couldn't get any crazier, the founder of Moms Demand Action For Gun Sense In America says, "the NRA works to block gun prosecutions all the time."
No, lady, they don't. They advocate strict enforcement of sensible gun laws but no NEW laws...which are not needed.
Posted - 3/28/2013 2:08:44 PM | show profile | flag this post
A NEW Plot Against Us!
Good work brave cruiser.
Clearly, the Obama administration is no doubt encouraging cities to back off enforcement and increase the murder rate just to come and take our AR-15 varmint rifles.
This IS food for thought, even if it has no nutritional value once you really think about it.
And we should be PROUD of the NRA's efforts. Adama Lanza sure was!
Posted - 3/28/2013 2:13:38 PM | show profile | flag this post
Just as an aside
While the left wing is ALL ABOUT gun control and confiscation, it is also opposed to Project Exile and its clones...programs that carry mandatory minimum prison sentences for crimes committed with guns and while in possession of guns. The Congressional Black Caucus and Families Against Mandatory Minimums are among liberal groups that have condemned Project Exile and others as "racist."
Posted - 3/28/2013 2:22:32 PM | show profile | flag this post
that's what the left does. attack law abiding gun owners while being soft on those who commit crimes with guns.
don't most felons vote democrat?
Posted - 3/28/2013 3:19:16 PM | show profile | flag this post
attack law abiding gun owners
Yes, like Adam Lanza.
This solid NRA member was obeying all the rules. Learning about guns, studying ways to get better at shooting. And they had to pry his gun from his cold dead hand.
Where is Charlton Heston when we need him?
con/puzo and cruiser, your continued support for Lanza is admirable. I know you're taking criticism, but so what, right?
Keep up the good work heroes.
Posted - 3/28/2013 3:29:55 PM | show profile | flag this post
What "lax" gun enforcement?
Let's go back to the TRAC reports that 'Lil Wayne talked about on the Sunday shows that sparked this thread. ALL my links will refer back to the original TRAC reports -- instead of OP/EDs as was cited by cruzo in the initial post.
The OVERWHELMING number of gun prosecutions are by LOCAL and STATE authorities.
Also, check out the chart from TRAC showing a decline in gun prosecutions since 2004 (remember, the crime rate is falling and this corresponds to that decline).
As far as DC "ranking 78th out of 90" for prosecutions, you may want to look at more recent TRAC figures which shows DC ranking 3rd in prosecutions.
The TRAC data shows federal weapons prosecutions are down 20.2% over the last five years.
It also shows that prosecutions for ALL crimes are down 44.2% over the same period.
So, prosecutions for non-gun related crime is falling faster than for gun-related crimes -- indicating there is still a focus on gun-related crimes.
Again, a right wing conspiracy theory blown apart by simple math.
I doubt you, cruzo, will look at these links. But I know our "casual readers" will.
Posted - 3/28/2013 4:25:51 PM | show profile | flag this post
Oh Sure etaoin shrdlu
Cite "facts" and "statistics" and "reality".
Do you think a hero like cruiser cares about that claptrap?
And sure the online news outlet The Examiners states; "Although Chicago does have a serious gun violence problem, it is still safer than New Orleans, Las Vegas, Miami, St. Louis, Richmond, Memphis, Atlanta, Kansas City, Baton Rouge, Jackson, Birmingham, Gulfport (MS) and Ft. Myers (FL), all cities in states with lax gun control laws."
and; "New York City is in fact, one of the safest major cities in the country. With an annual gun death rate of 4.9 per 100,000 residents it is the second least dangerous large city for gun violence"
and; "State wide data shows that gun deaths are higher per capita in the states of Alaska, Louisiana, Wyoming, Arizona, Nevada or Mississippi, than they are in the cities of New York or Chicago. Indeed an Alaskan is four times more likely to die from gun violence than a resident of New York City. "
Added to the fact that brave cruiser opposes most federal gun statutes because they tread on his right to own AR-15 varmint rifles and military wounding bullets.
But still, this makes libs look bad IF you don't follow up and check out the facts.
That's what our two brave Adam Lanzas were doing. It's clear you don't "get it".
Posted - 3/28/2013 7:31:10 PM | show profile | flag this post
Did you not RTFA?
The statistics were for FEDERAL prosecutions.
You people really have to jump through your own asses to delude yourselves that you're "right." It makes you look really childish.
Posted - 3/28/2013 8:51:40 PM | show profile | flag this post
I love it.
The cons are working overtime to protect families from the outrageous harm and horror of gay couples getting married (with all the responsibilities that entails), while making sure anyone, anywhere can purchase assault rifles, extended mags and armour piercing and fragmented ammunition.
Making America stronger!
Posted - 3/28/2013 10:58:10 PM | show profile | flag this post
RTFA: such eloquence from our resident genius.
Posted - 3/29/2013 8:51:44 AM | show profile | flag this post
and he uses that phrase again "you people"
Posted - 3/29/2013 9:58:33 AM | show profile | flag this post
You know you've made it when you're mentioned in a cruster post!
Posted - 3/29/2013 10:00:05 AM | show profile | flag this post
Did you not, "RTFL?"
The links are ALL to FEDERAL prosecutions. All stats I mentioned were federal prosecutions.
TRAC also mentions the fact that there are so few federal prosecutions because most gun crime falls under local laws.
Posted - 3/29/2013 3:35:08 PM | show profile | flag this post
"most gun crime falls under local laws"
Keep trying. Maybe some day you'll find a statute somewhere that supports you.
A felon in possession IS a federal crime. A mental defective in possession IS a federal crime. Being in possession while under a restraining order for domestic violence IS a federal crime. Being in possession while a fugitive IS a federal crime. Being in possession while a drug user or addict IS a federal crime. An illegal alien being in possession IS a federal crime.
There are more prohibitions...they are all spelled out in 18 USC 922.
But the stark truth is that the US chooses not to consistently enforce these provisions, preferring that prosecutions be done at the local level. That nullified the charges of racism against the US government from the CBC and other liberal groups.
Posted - 3/29/2013 6:18:05 PM | show profile | flag this post
Yes, but those crimes you mentioned...
do NOT make up the majority of gun crime.
Murder, attempted murder, assault, battery, terroristic threatening, armed robbery, and a host of other crimes constitute a far greater number of gun crimes.
And as I pointed out, the TRAC numbers on FEDERAL prosecutions of gun crimes undermine your initial argument. FEDERAL prosecutions of gun crimes are dropping at a rate far behind overall decreases in federal prosecutions of ALL federal crimes.
And DC is NOT 78th, but 3rd highest in the latest count of FEDERAL prosecutions of gun crimes.
Posted - 3/29/2013 8:44:07 PM | show profile | flag this post
Apples and oranges, pal
That's apparently the only way you can be "right." Too bad you cannot honestly discuss this topic.
Posted - 3/30/2013 12:07:48 AM | show profile | flag this post
I'm not, cruzo...
You obviously have not read the links I gave you.
They all show that the NRA's claims are bogus. That FEDERAL prosecutions are NOT down in key cities -- but holding stronger than prosecutions for any other crime.
This all looks like the NRA was nervous that their connection to Adam Lanza was about to come out -- and they wanted to direct attention away from them.
Maybe we need to actually step up federal prosecutions -- like you want -- and a good place to start would be with a federal search warrant for the NRA's membership rolls.
I take it, with your sudden, new-found support for federal prosecutions, you'd agree?
Posted - 3/30/2013 1:44:45 PM | show profile | flag this post
Your links are bullsh*t
But after re-reading my first post it is apparent that I neglected to include my source. Here it is:
Posted - 3/30/2013 4:09:20 PM | show profile | flag this post
*** Your links are bullsh*t ***
Asterisks: They elevate cursing from ordinary to genius.
Posted - 3/30/2013 6:19:09 PM | show profile | flag this post
you're saying that your original post -- and the article you linked to -- are bulls**t?
Because the figures they cite are from the very links I pointed to: Syracuse University's Transactional Records Access Clearinghouse.
You may also want to read the article you just linked to. It backed up 100% what I've been saying -- that LOCAL jurisdictions pick up most gun cases. All these jurisdictions you mentioned have tougher penalties for gun violations than the federal government -- so if the cases are turned over to local authorities to prosecute -- the criminals get LONGER sentences. Says so, right in the article YOU linked to.
Also from the article YOU linked to: "Susan Long, a statistician and co-director of TRAC, said the data revealed a stronger federal enforcement presence in rural areas than urban ones. 'If taxpayers of [a certain area] don't pass strong gun control measures ... the feds pick up the ball,' she said. 'But now we've got sequestration cutting back on all these resources.'"
Thanks for at least admitting YOU are full of bulls**t, cruzo.
Posted - 3/30/2013 7:00:12 PM | show profile | flag this post
I'd have NEVER believed
the bullsh*t you posted allegedly came from the same database. You badly...and deliberately, I'd bet...mischaracterized the data.
For example, Washington, DC, WAS...in fact...78th out of 90 areas in terms of federal prosecutions. And it was down significantly compared to the previous period...from 49th, if memory serves.
But you'll never admit you lied. In fact you'll post a bunch of irrelevant bullsh*t and try to change the subject.
Posted - 3/30/2013 11:41:58 PM | show profile | flag this post
Do you ever have a day when you can actually DISCUSS anything, cruiser?
Posted - 3/31/2013 1:01:50 AM | show profile | flag this post
you have to understand cruiztwit's view of "discussion"..
to him, "discussion" means he states a position..you agree with everything he says..
that just ain't happenin' here..
Posted - 3/31/2013 2:25:57 AM | show profile | flag this post
"Do you ever have
a day when you can actually DISCUSS anything"
Any time you left wingers are willing to start from a factual basis I'm willing to discuss anything. But when you start with bullsh*t and refuse to budge off of it, well...
Y'see, your viewpoint is not automatically right just because you the left wingers are the majority here.
Posted - 3/31/2013 10:04:59 AM | show profile | flag this post
Of course you're not going to agree..
with facts, cruzo.
You cited OLD numbers from TRAC.
I linked to their LATEST.
Once again, you're cherry-picking data to protect your world view, you're even ignoring TRAC's explanation in the article YOU linked to on what their data indicates.
You simply refuse to accept reality and responsibility.
You're such a loser. No wonder our "casual readers" are laughing at you.