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More murders in the name of their religion
Posted - 7/6/2013 9:06:10 PM | show profile | flag this post
Initial reports out of Nigeria say that Islamic extremists today killed 42 people, mostly secondary school students and their teachers.
We haven't heard a lot of public reaction as yet, probably...at least partly...because mass killings by Islamists has become so common place. It's as if these things simply get chalked up on a board as if they're stats that no longer need much mention, but guess we should at least keep a tally.
And as always there's probably going to be little if anything said by "non" extremist muslims. Why don't they seem to get upset with their own politically-religious zealots who are taking words and phrases in the Koran out of context and using them to further their own agenda.
I'd venture to say that any other religion would have a strong backlash by it's followers if fanatics mass murdered in the name of that religion.
Posted - 7/6/2013 9:48:13 PM | show profile | flag this post
Why don't you get to know some Muslims (capital M) and ask them?
Going to the source for information works a lot better better than drawing speculative conclusions based on your own biased presumptions.
Your local masjid could help. If your community doesn't have a masjid, try the local interfaith council.
Posted - 7/6/2013 11:38:22 PM | show profile | flag this post
and not to sound cold-blooded.. but..
it is (a) a half a world away..(b) a very old story in terms of Nigeria.. one that's been reported god knows how many times..and therefore it follows that (c) it's not really our business..we have enough to worry about with
wackos shooting up our own schools, theatres and such..
or is it simply a golden opportunity for you to exercise your islamophobia once again?..
Posted - 7/7/2013 11:05:15 AM | show profile | flag this post
newscred? It is a valid news story
And it's a shame sometimes that stories such as this don't merit the attention they deserve. But sorry, there is a tinge of prejudice in your post.
"because mass killings by Islamists has become so common place." I'm SURE you meant to say "radical Islamists", right?
There have been roughly 17,386 gun deaths in America since Sandy Hook. Well over 5,800 of them murders. There have been ten mass shootings. Ten school shootings. Those shooters aren't described as "lunatic Second Amendment believers" are they?? Instead, they're often 'crazed gunman'.
When that sweatshop collapsed in Bangladesh two months ago, killing over 800, I don't remember mass protests in front of US clothing retailers (Never mind a topic about it here). Maybe you missed it, or didn't think it was worth mentioning.
But another 'fanatic mass murder'--because Muslims are involved--That apparently is worth complaining about.
Posted - 7/7/2013 12:42:37 PM | show profile | flag this post
So, guys, would you not agree that newscred could set his mind and attitude at ease by meeting Muslims and talking with them about his concerns? We're used to talking to and learning about people who are different from us, but newscred -- having never been in the news business -- hasn't had that exposure.
If he's too scared of Muslims to talk with real live ones, not understanding that U.S. Muslims know full well the biased views that many non-Muslims have of them, then the Web may at least get him to put down that broad paintbrush.
Here's something I found on a five-minute Google search of U.S. Muslim newspapers and magazines:
Confusing Islam with a particular culture or the actions of particular individuals.
Arguably this is the most frequent mistake and certainly a very common one. Like people of other religions, Muslims are of various stripes, some devout, some casual, and yet others whose actions are frequently unislamic. Muslims would remind people that just because one meets someone calling himself a Muslim who behaves in a certain way, it does not mean that his actions reflect Islam. One way to understand this is to consider the various cases of Christian priests sexually molesting little boys. Do such actions reflect Christianity? What about white supremacists who distort Christianity to further their cause and terrorize people, does that mean their actions are Christian? Most people would rightly say: 'Of course not!' Muslims would simply ask that they be judged by a similar standard. 'Unislamic actions committed by Muslims do not define Islam' would be their response. In other words, 'Muslim' does not always equal 'Islam.' In fact, since Islam is not based on mere opinion, it is quite easy to identify Islamic positions on various topics. Islam is primarily based on the Quran (the word of God, as revealed to Prophet Muhammad through Archangel Gabriel) and Sunnah (the example of the Prophet, his authentic recorded sayings (hadith) and life (seerah) ). The ulema (Islamic scholars) study these sources and use a specific methodology to detail Islamic positions on various issues.
Muslims have even been admonished in Quran 60:5 'Our Lord! Make us [Muslims] not a [test and] trial for non-Muslims' indicating that the unislamic actions of some Muslims can sometimes confuse others who are not knowledgeable about Islam, This is a source of genuine concern to practicing Muslims. Muslims would suggest that if you want to learn about Islam, look to the Quran and Sunnah (example of the prophet) and practicing, devout Muslims."
The publication comes out of Arizona.
Reading the Koran might help him, too. In a battle of the holy books, violence-level category, it's pretty much a toss-up against the Bible -- both originating with the same vengeful God.
Posted - 7/8/2013 2:12:54 PM | show profile | flag this post
there's a violence-level category for holy books? or is this liberal bigotry rearing its ugly head?
Posted - 7/8/2013 4:58:18 PM | show profile | flag this post
con.. if you don't think there's violence in BOTH..
the bible and the Koran..a high level of violence in both..
either you have not read a page of either tome.. or..
you're even dumber than I thought you were..and I already figured your i.q in single digits..