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Posted - 3/30/2013 1:31:22 PM | show profile | flag this post
but the English and the Australians are more honest.
It is becoming accepted by even the most rabid of IPCC supporters that, in fact, there has been at least a pause in global warming.
One of the leading proponents of the much-maligned theory of global warming, James Hansen of NASA, now concedes that warming is "lower than expected." (Read: flat since 1998)
David Whitehouse of the Global Warming Policy Foundation says, "If we have not passed it already, we are on the threshold of global observations becoming incompatible with the consensus theory of climate change."
I've been saying all along that "consensus" is simply the wrong way to go about science. It is a discipline of observation and impartial analysis, not politically-motivated agreement.
Posted - 3/30/2013 2:45:24 PM | show profile | flag this post
Noozvet can't read.
From the article.:
"But it does not mean global warming is a delusion."
In fact, the peer reviewed science still backs the consensus, and and anthropomorphic climate change.
Unless, you're with The Global Warming Policy Foundation an Astroturf "think tank" with a history of denial and failed studies.
From source watch
"The Global Warming Policy Foundation does not reveal where its funding comes from. The accounts show the extent to which the secretive Foundation is funded by anonymous donors, compared with income from membership fees. Its total income for the period up to 31 July 2010 was £503,302, of which only £8,168 (or 1.6%) came from membership contributions.
In 2012, the Guardian exposed (founder) Lawson's links to coal-fired power companies in Europe. The GWPF is located at 1 Carlton House Terrace, London, in a room rented from the Institute of Materials, Minerals and Mining.
Posted - 3/30/2013 4:17:48 PM | show profile | flag this post
The consensus used to be
that the the sun revolved around the earth. It was wrong. The consensus used to be that bleeding a patient would cure diseases. It was wrong.
Posted - 3/30/2013 4:30:58 PM | show profile | flag this post
A pause in global warming?
So that's why we were shoveling sunshine and 50-degree temps this winter.
Posted - 3/30/2013 5:09:22 PM | show profile | flag this post
It could also be the reason
You were shoveling snow in late March. Just sayin'
Posted - 3/30/2013 5:37:17 PM | show profile | flag this post
cruise can't make headway on any of the other threads...so let's start another one repeating the mantra 'I'm right...and 97% of the worlds scientists are wrong'. Yea. That will certainly redeem your reputation.
What the hell does "News you won't hear or read in the US" mean??
Some more cherry picked articles prove somehow that the US MSM is somehow keeping news of massive drought/storms/polar melting/climate change a secret from us poor dumb Americans??
And since you don't live in either Australia or the UK, how did you hear about this massive conspiracy?? The media perhaps, or morse code from another cave dweller?
This is the killer, but granted it may go flying right over his pointed little head..."The consensus used to be that the the sun revolved around the earth. It was wrong. The consensus used to be that bleeding a patient would cure diseases. It was wrong."
Well Hallelujah. cruise finally grasps the concept that 'things change' (or shit happens, take your pick) The 'consensus' my antagonist; was also that blacks, women, and gays were to be enslaved, lynched, denied basic rights, and treated like bathtub mold. We've evolved thank God...Or at least most of have. But those are social issues.
Science is science. 2+2=4. Gravity exists. And so does Man-made Global Warming.
Posted - 3/30/2013 5:37:32 PM | show profile | flag this post
As one "real" scientist put it...
Measuring global warming from 1998 is like measuring someone's height from age 25-30 and coming to the conclusion that people have stopped growing. The fact is that the warmest years in world history have been recorded in the past few years. So while global warming may have slowed down, the Earth's temperature is still warmer than ever. Apparently Cruiser knows as much about science as he does about journalism.
Posted - 3/30/2013 5:52:09 PM | show profile | flag this post
well, when you get all your information from the PPP..
the pathetically paranoid press..what do you expect?
that seems to be cruiztwit's onty source of information anymore..
Posted - 3/30/2013 7:03:38 PM | show profile | flag this post
"cruise finally grasps the concept that 'things change'"
You're an idiot. When did the sun EVER revolve around the earth??? And when did bleeding a patient EVER cure diseases???
NOTHING'S changed there, pal...not even your IQ.
Posted - 3/30/2013 7:04:54 PM | show profile | flag this post
Cruiser confuses religion and science.
The religious consensus was that the sun revolved around the earth. Science proves otherwise.
Doubters have True Faith that climate change is wrong (along with evolution). Science, peer reviewed, proves otherwise.
Posted - 3/30/2013 9:09:42 PM | show profile | flag this post
cruise, you sure can grasp at straws
It's concepts, English, and your own machismo you have a problem with. There was no reason you had to insult me (again, with your "You're an idiot."). We were clearly talking about the 'consensus' of things change. Go back and look at it. (..."The consensus used to be...The consensus used to be...It was wrong."...to which I said "Well Hallelujah. cruise finally grasps the concept that 'things change'...)
Man, get a grip. Either you're embarassed by your own words (which we've pretty much shown you are...all that 'I never said that, you mis-quoted me by quoting me directly stuff') or you're really defensive. None of which btw has anything to do with Science is Science, and your personal opinion means squat.
Posted - 3/30/2013 9:31:53 PM | show profile | flag this post
But things HAVEN'T changed
"Scientific" consensus was wrong then...and it's wrong now.
Get used to the FACT that "global warming" is a scare tactic used by collectivists as a method of weanth redistribution. It is pushed by the UN...through the IPCC...to cause wealthy nations (incidentally, the ones that have money) to transfer wealth to those that do not. That is the concept behind carbon credits, etc.
It;s simply another liberal egalitarianist scheme.
It's already been proven that anthropogenic gobal warming is a lie. The globe may...MAY...be warming but natural cycles have much more to do with it than anything humans can do.
Posted - 3/30/2013 9:52:10 PM | show profile | flag this post
it's a lost cause, troops... the PPP..
pathetically pareanoid press..has its hooks firmly in whatever passes as cruiztwit's intellect..
best to just let him rant and ignore him..someday, he'll wake up..
Posted - 3/30/2013 11:39:17 PM | show profile | flag this post
*** It could also be the reason
You were shoveling snow in late March. Just sayin' ***
I was? There was no snow here.
Posted - 3/31/2013 9:01:23 AM | show profile | flag this post
Post the peer reviewed science Nooz.
You've had years to do it.
you still can't.
not one single substantial peer reviewed study.
not. even. one.
IPCC: thousands of scientists, and thousands of hard studies, backed by fact, running from climatology, to paleoclimatology, to statistical derivations to simple, plain old hard temperature data, spanning more than two decades.
You got faith. they got science.
Posted - 3/31/2013 9:45:57 AM | show profile | flag this post
Ooh, ooh, ortho
Must have come out of his stupor to come up with one of his amazingly clever phrases, "PPP". I guess he can't recycle his St. Sarah or Bachmann-Turner BS so now this will be added to every post...even if it has absolutely no relevance to anything.
Sad, no pathetic.
Posted - 3/31/2013 10:10:25 AM | show profile | flag this post
Cruzo can't accept the fact...
that his world view on climate change is the ptolemaic model and he's arguing against the Copernican theory.
He looks for misleading articles in the right leaning popular press -- and finds one ever couple of months -- to trot out as "scientific proof" of his faulty world view.
But he never brings up the DAILY scientific studies, reports, calculations and other data that continue to show man-made global climate change.
But then, he is a birther, thinks veterans are "gaming the system," believes the DHS is rolling tanks across the country to take away his guns -- and who knows what other drivel.
None of our "casual readers" take him seriously. But he's sure good for a laugh from serious minded folks like the rest of us here!
Posted - 3/31/2013 11:45:01 AM | show profile | flag this post
Typical of the radical left...of which he is a prime example
etwink cannot refute what I posted so he resorts to personal attacks, insults and ad hominem.
Note that on this topic HE never posts any evidence. That's because he flat does not understand the science...all he can do is regurgitate the leftist drivel he reads...so he relies on Alinsky-esque methods.
Posted - 4/1/2013 11:34:54 AM | show profile | flag this post
"Scientists" can't even agree on what's causing the increase in Antarctic sea ice.
Posted - 4/1/2013 11:49:01 AM | show profile | flag this post
I don't have to refute any of this, cruzo...
the world's climate scientists do it daily.
You're living in the past, thinking the sun, moon, planets and stars revolve around a flat earth.
Posted - 4/1/2013 12:13:31 PM | show profile | flag this post
What you meant to say is
you CAN'T refute what I've posted. It is scientific certainty not the politicized crap you cling to.
Posted - 4/1/2013 12:19:53 PM | show profile | flag this post
Warmopause. You know you're in it when there are no more hot flashes.
Posted - 4/1/2013 1:34:44 PM | show profile | flag this post
you cite David Whitehouse of the Global Warming Policy Foundation.
That is a POLITICAL, not a scientific, organization. It's sole purpose is to produce political propaganda to attack real science on global climate change.
They've also been caught in misleading information about the actual trend of global temperatures.
Again, outdated, political propaganda from our parrot cruzo.
Posted - 4/1/2013 3:36:57 PM | show profile | flag this post
You can characterize it anyway that helps you sleep at night
but the FACT is warming stopped in 1998. Your "scientists" can't explain that and, in fact, they and their models are flummoxed.
Not that the IPCC's models were ever any sterling examples...the Mann "hockey stick" on which most of the IPCC's crap is predicated was flawed and incorrect from the get-go. It tried to flatten the Medieval Warm Period and the following mini ice age to hide their stark contradiction of Mann's premise that the global temperature remained flat until the advent of the Industrial Revolution. It did not. As a matter of fact the global temperature has been fluctuating up and down since the birth of our planet some 4.5 billion years ago.
Man...and Mann...are trying to dishonestly force-fit a mere blink in geologic time to a period for which there were no observations and no reliable proxies...and during which natural cycles of the universe and its bodies drove the global temperature -- some of the major ones having periodicities up to 400,000 years.
Posted - 4/1/2013 4:22:29 PM | show profile | flag this post
You may want to watch this:
Good explanation how cruzo and other non-scientists try to deny science by eliminating the actual rate of warming. Or by only tracking the trend over a cherry picked set of years.
And we've seen cruzo's long history of cherry-picking his facts.
Here's more on that cherry-picking problem of science deniers:
This also shows how science deniers like cruzo use a skewed approach to deny the rising temperatures -- simply by selecting certain years:
Really interesting stuff.
Also love this -- If you're 27 or younger, you've never experienced a colder than average month. Ever.