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| cruiser |
Posted - 2/5/2013 7:59:19 PM | show profile | flag this post
What a crock of hyperbole. I wish the media would drop this boilerplate bullsh*t from its "breaking news" stories about kids who act like kids and sometimes bring toy firearms to school.
OF COURSE no one was injured. The G** d*** thing doesn't really shoot. And when it's only a picture or an extended forefinger it's REALLY ridiculous.
Kids have been feigning firearms and playing with toy firearms ever since the first father figured out how to whittle a mock barrel and stock out of twigs.
Hell, when I was growing up 100 percent of the boys and a significant number of the girls played cowboys and indians...or cops and robbers...regularly. And I don't know of a single one who became a serial killer.
What is this relentless wussification of minors supposed to accomplish?
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| cruiser |
Posted - 2/5/2013 8:00:55 PM | show profile | flag this post
My bad
I failed to add that the 10-year-old was arrested.
For what for Christ's sake???
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| mpdodgson |
Posted - 2/6/2013 8:15:50 AM | show profile | flag this post
Got Rant?
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| Grateful Deadline |
Posted - 2/6/2013 11:56:22 AM | show profile | flag this post
This might be the story, mp, but who knows? :
http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/student-displays-toy-gun-on-bus-police-say/2013/02/05/5a0be5e0-6fc6-11e2-ac36-3d8d9dcaa2e2_story.html
Note the last paragraph about the 7-year-old who used a loaded handgun Monday to threaten other kids a school bus in Virginia. The last sentence is "No one was injured."
The objection appears to be that it's OK to report that a little kid threatened other kids with a loaded weapon but not to say that nobody was hurt.
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| cruster |
Posted - 2/6/2013 2:29:16 PM | show profile | flag this post
Strategic Stupid STRIKE!
cruiser bravely lowers the bar once more.
A hero to the right, making cases and posts so ridiculous, other ridiculous claims seem more credible. (Let's never raise taxes and add more guns to every situation while cutting Social Security and Medicare, but still spending trillions on wars we don't need!!!).
A normal person would not and could not spew such vile crap without feeling sick, but cruiser knows no fear or shame.
Good work hero!
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| beenthere |
Posted - 2/6/2013 6:11:27 PM | show profile | flag this post
"Gun crimes" at schools (mostly elementary) resulting in student suspensions, suspension hearings, and actual school LOCKDOWNS:
Transparent toy gun. South Carolina.
Gun built from lego bricks. Massachusetts.
Two kids talking about a nerf gun. New York.
An actual nerf gun. New York.
A pink bubble gun. Pennsylvania.
A paper gun. Pennsylvania.
Pointing a finger and saying “pow.” Maryland.
Playing cops and robbers with fingers. Maryland.
Making a gun “hand gesture.” Oklahoma.
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| orthicon |
Posted - 2/6/2013 6:33:07 PM | show profile | flag this post
at risk of actually agreeing with cruiztwit..he has a point.
i hold no brief at all for political correctness..
and god knows california is the world capitol for it..
in cases like the above listed by beenthere, political correctness is running rampant.. completely out of control..
a paper gun? a nerf gun?..a finger?..
come on people..did you agreee to throw out your common sense when you picked up your teaching credential?..
(i probaby don't want to know the answer to that, do i?)
try to get it back..for everyone's sake..
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| Grateful Deadline |
Posted - 2/7/2013 1:02:25 AM | show profile | flag this post
Maybe schools are trying to instill non-violence in kids. Most schools don't accept students threatening other students as normal part of the school day.
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| cruiser |
Posted - 2/7/2013 8:46:21 AM | show profile | flag this post
A pointed finger
with a spoken "Bang" is NOT a threat. It's a NORMAL part of a KID'S day.
They're kids. They're in fantasyland much of the time. They play.
In fact, they have to do that in order to evaluate their own actions against societal norms, which they learn during play. To deprive them of that is to stunt their development.
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| orthicon |
Posted - 2/7/2013 12:19:48 PM | show profile | flag this post
grateful..maybe the instilling of non-violence in kids..
ought not be the schools' job, so much..
not at the cost of not allowing kids to play and mature normally..
we're back to the political correctness argument again..which is what is motivating the idiotic behavior of teachers and administrators..
common sense, folks..common sense..
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| Grateful Deadline |
Posted - 2/7/2013 3:51:55 PM | show profile | flag this post
Orth, what is normal about kids pretending to shoot each other?
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| orthicon |
Posted - 2/7/2013 4:54:26 PM | show profile | flag this post
what's normal about it is that it's kids..
emulating people they see as heroes.. the military..the cowboys, even..yeah, there's still some of that..
and yes, the bad guys and good guys in video games..
it's prefectly normal childhood behavior..and making kids suddenly think they're going to hell because of it is not a function the schools should be undertaking..at least not to the degree they are..
there's a parental function here, too.. we often forget that..and yes, i know some of the kids don't have parents as we know them..but let's not make them feel like criminals until they actually aree..
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| Grateful Deadline |
Posted - 2/7/2013 9:14:24 PM | show profile | flag this post
Then would you not say that there's a problem that needs to be fixed? And that nobody's fixing it?
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| orthicon |
Posted - 2/7/2013 9:47:02 PM | show profile | flag this post
well, how would they "fix" it?..
go out and hire them parents?..
i realize i'm running contrary to the politically correct tide here..but i honestly think this strident overreaction to most of this child play stuff is because the teachers and administrators have been trained that they have to do this stuff so they'll get high marks in their performance reviews (such as they are)...
they can pat themselves and each other on the back, and tell each other theyre solving the "problem"..
a problem they themselves are creating..
let kids be kids..there'll be enough crap hitting them in the face soon enough..
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| Grateful Deadline |
Posted - 2/8/2013 12:28:49 AM | show profile | flag this post
Threats are threats. If a kid has a finger gun, what does he have in his backpack? What does he have at home, waiting to be brought to school?
This isn't 1960s childhood anymore.
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| orthicon |
Posted - 2/8/2013 1:39:18 AM | show profile | flag this post
but kids are still kids..
trhey're not prepuberty homicidal maniacs..
(well.. except in chicago..)
all i'm saying is lighten up a little bit..
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| cruiser |
Posted - 2/8/2013 10:46:03 AM | show profile | flag this post
"This isn't 1960s childhood anymore"
You bet it's not. The radical left in the education establishment have certainly seen to that.
Schools need to be ripped from the hands of politically motivated "researchers," education "designers" and social engineers and given back to TEACHERS, who, in turn, need to be evaluated on the basis of their results and the poor ones "encouraged" to find a different line of work.
Oh, and it would help if teachers knew something about the subjects they are asked to teach (that means being educted themselves).
THAT'S what would make our education system successful and our kids educated...WITHOUT suspending them for an innocuous finger point or a picture.
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| Grateful Deadline |
Posted - 2/8/2013 11:27:52 AM | show profile | flag this post
Don't feed the troll.
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| cruiser |
Posted - 2/8/2013 12:52:33 PM | show profile | flag this post
That's grateful-speak for
I don't have anything with which to dispute the original post so I'm trying to sabotage it.
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| livinliberal |
Posted - 2/8/2013 1:17:21 PM | show profile | flag this post
Hate to agree with cruiser...
But the zero tolerance policies at schools are ridiculous...Kids who bring an aspirin to school are kicked out for violating drug policies, etc...Yet bullies are allowed to inflict pain on others and are let go...
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| cruiser |
Posted - 2/8/2013 1:34:00 PM | show profile | flag this post
The whole concept of "zero tolerance"
connotes the inability to make an informed judgment.
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| Karen Penner |
Posted - 2/8/2013 1:38:29 PM | show profile | flag this post
No, it's sensible talk. It's a reminder that cruiser's a loser. What else is there to say about an alleged man/character who picks on people, ascribes political viewpoints to them, hates education, hates women, hates college graduates, hates college professors, hates anyone else's opinion, hates democracy, hates the multiple-party political system, hates information, can't say "I'm sorry your father died," can't say "happy holidays," can't say "I made a mistake," plays a ridiculous private game of getting the last post in every thread, claims a personal victory when nobody responds to his idiotic posts, calls everyone every synonym for stupid in the book, can't write worth a damn -- and does it all on a media professionals' board?
He's so outrageous, he's obviously not an actual person. Is it worth responding to someone who's not real? Not to me, but YMMV -- and you've got to give the guy kudos for sustaining such a thoroughly repulsive loser character for so long without cracking.
:-)
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| cruiser |
Posted - 2/8/2013 1:40:22 PM | show profile | flag this post
Feel better now? You have my sympathy.
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| Karen Penner |
Posted - 2/8/2013 1:42:53 PM | show profile | flag this post
*** But the zero tolerance policies at schools are ridiculous...Kids who bring an aspirin to school are kicked out for violating drug policies, etc...Yet bullies are allowed to inflict pain on others and are let go... ***
Concrete object versus emotion: a tough comparison. Actually, bullies *are* kicked out of school -- when they're caught.
As for zero tolerance, do you know what it exists? Liability and lawsuits.
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| cruiser |
Posted - 2/8/2013 1:50:56 PM | show profile | flag this post
"do you know what it exists? Liability and lawsuits"
And do you know why that's a problem? Left wingers are aiding greedy lawyers in the perversion of the legal system and massive...undeserved...judgments.
For example, lawsuits brought by parents...and their greedy lawyers...over the disciplining of unruly students should be thrown out...IF they ever get that far. The lawyers should refuse to take them.
But since this country is WAY overpopulated with lawyers...as compared to every other developed nation on the globe...this kind of insanity supports our "legal" system.
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