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| thesecondcoming |
Posted - 6/19/2012 12:15:18 PM | show profile | flag this post
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=aRqnpw9ZInJ4
Who knew that the President wants old people to die sooner?
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| thesecondcoming |
Posted - 6/19/2012 1:43:09 PM | show profile | flag this post
And Obama wants employers to deny you coverage....
As I have pointed out before, Obama wants your employer to deny you health coverage. He and the dems, purposely wrote Obamacare to make it easy for employers to deny you healthcare.
Imagine that. Obama wants old people to die sooner, AND Obama wants your employer to cut off your health insurance.
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| Grateful Deadline |
Posted - 6/19/2012 2:18:49 PM | show profile | flag this post
The story you link to was published three years ago. Further, it doesn't say what you claim it says.
I hereby nominate this thread for Biggest Loser of the Day. And it's only 10:15 a.m. PDT -- competitors, we still have almost 14 hours to go! Can you top this?
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| etaoin shrdlu |
Posted - 6/19/2012 2:30:13 PM | show profile | flag this post
I don't know...
we've got cruzo in another thread confusing warranties and insurance.
Maybe we should return to the prediction thread and predict it will be beaten several times over today!
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| thesecondcoming |
Posted - 6/19/2012 3:16:06 PM | show profile | flag this post
It's all true.....
Whether it ran three years ago or yesterday.
Obama cut cancer and heart payments for people on medicare.
Obama wants your employer to cancel your health insurance by setting up a fine of $2,000, which is WAY CHEAPER than paying the cost of the employee's health insurance premium.
It's all true and factual.
The only thing you can do is offer stupid and meaningless voting, by attacking me. Thank you for the compliment !
Well, why don't you offer the same stupidly on the thread titled "First birth control, now cancer" or the "Pre-existing condition? Tough...." thread ?
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| etaoin shrdlu |
Posted - 6/19/2012 3:26:53 PM | show profile | flag this post
It's been three years...
and it never happened as described in this article.
Try to keep up.
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| thesecondcoming |
Posted - 6/19/2012 3:50:34 PM | show profile | flag this post
Yes it does.....
Two quotes from the article.
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"The specialists, in newspaper columns and meetings with lawmakers, say patients will lose access to life-saving care, from pacemakers to chemotherapy."
"The separate Medicare proposal, announced July 1, slashes projected spending for care by cardiologists and oncologists by more than 10 percent each...."
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Obama's proposal slashed heart and cancer care for some medicare patients.
Therefore, Obama doesn't care about heart and cancer treatment for old people.
I don't know how you can argue against me. It's a fact.
Try to keep up !
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| etaoin shrdlu |
Posted - 6/19/2012 4:09:50 PM | show profile | flag this post
OK, second coming...
the article you linked to was from 2009 -- in the heat of the battle over Obamacare.
It contains claims from partisan opponents of the plan at the time.
They made some predictions.
It is now three years later. It is 2012, not 2009.
Those predictions never came true.
If they did, can you please show us all proof that the cuts actually happened AND actually affected cancer and heart disease patients for the last two years since Obamacare became law?
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| thesecondcoming |
Posted - 6/19/2012 4:31:13 PM | show profile | flag this post
Back at you ES....
Based on how YOU and other libs frame medical cuts, the cuts don't even have to happen for the story to be about how evil and stupid the potential republican cuts are.
Where is your demand for actual cuts that have happened, under the current topic of " First birth control, now cancer"?
Where is your demand for actual cuts that have happened under the current topic of "Pre-existing condition"?
Oh wait. You created those threads and neither one of those threads are about actual medical cuts that have happened.
What a hypocrite you are.
Try to keep up !!!!
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| Grateful Deadline |
Posted - 6/19/2012 5:04:49 PM | show profile | flag this post
Poor baby -- pulls up a story from 2009 and misstates its content, then lashes out when it's pointed out.
I hereby recategorize the nomination of this thread to Biggest Display of the Day of Baiting and Immaturity in an Original Post.
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| etaoin shrdlu |
Posted - 6/19/2012 8:14:11 PM | show profile | flag this post
Wow, secondcoming...
maybe we should talk about how cutting money for an all wood Navy would hurt the buggy whip industry!
You dug up claims from a political battle THREE YEARS ago.
The law passed -- and the cuts NEVER happened.
In my two threads, I'm talking about what Republicans are proposing NOW.
I'm not talking about THEORIES -- I'm talking about a Republican Senate candidate saying he specifically wanted to allow employers to opt out of covering employees for cancer.
I'm talking about about Romney's stump speech where he says he wants to eliminate coverage for pre-existing conditions.
What you posted to were invalid claims by Obamacare opponents who claimed the sky was falling -- and, three years later, it hasn't.
I posted links to two Republican candidates who promise to actually eliminate access to insurance. That's a freakin' campaign promise on their part -- elect us, and we'll keep people from getting health insurance.
Wake up!
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| mpdodgson |
Posted - 6/19/2012 9:26:03 PM | show profile | flag this post
We probably should
wait for the SCOTUS to render their opinion before we start at each other again over the merits of 'Obamacare'...
But, since that's not going to happen...Jeez secondcoming, what we're you thinking?? A three year old piece of crap warning us about shit that never happened?? That's your fear?? Reminds me of Bat-Shit Crazy Bachmann:
– “Under Obamacare illegal aliens don’t have to pay for Obamacare. Only American citizens pay for Obamacare. [...] Illegal aliens have the possibility of getting the care, but they have no requirement to pay for the care. Only the citizens do.”
– “One man stood up, he was over 7-feet tall. He was a physician in the community. And he said, ‘I had a little lady in my office and because of Obamacare, I had to call the IRS and I had to get a number to put on a form before I could see her.’”
All of which was pure fantasy and fiction, especially "since the IRS does not begin enforcing the individual requirement to purchase health insurance until 2014"...but it made for GREAT soundbites. And let's not forget those 'little blue pills' to kill Grandma with--Obama said so.
Anyway, does it strike any of the conservatives here odd that most of the major health insurers now say they will KEEP major parts of ObamaCare--even IF the Supreme Court rules against the WH--because it's the right thing to do AND it's good business??
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