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| anonymous 1 |
Posted - 9/14/2012 1:29:36 PM | show profile | flag this post
Better to Post Under Many Different Names
You should know, iblameobama, nelson box, annoymous 1, cdnreprtr, cruster.
Did i miss any cruster?
Stupid for the cause!!!!!!
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| etaoin shrdlu |
Posted - 9/14/2012 1:34:10 PM | show profile | flag this post
Any1...
"Stupid for the cause!" Perfect campaign slogan for the GOP this year!
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| cruiser |
Posted - 9/14/2012 2:49:19 PM | show profile | flag this post
"Obama is trusted more than Romney"
Ignore this moron. He only reads the Democrat-oversampled polls and WILL NOT countenance the facts.
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| etaoin shrdlu |
Posted - 9/14/2012 3:12:19 PM | show profile | flag this post
Ah, cruzo...
you were quoting the hell out of polls when they were benefiting Romney.
The fact is, Obama is opening a wide lead on Romney.
Americans are leaning away from Romney, trusting him less and less.
And your man, Mitt, imploded by flying off the handle and spreading falsehoods when the U.S. consulate was under attack.
I understand your frustration with your party's poor choice of a candidate.
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| cruiser |
Posted - 9/14/2012 3:18:06 PM | show profile | flag this post
What you really mean
is that Democrat-oversampled polls are pretending there's a wide lead for Obama...and that's a purely political psychological ploy.
Peoples' egos cause them to back winners and the leftist pollsters are doing everything they can to make it seem like Obama is winning...and that includes oversampling Democrats by significant percentages.
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| etaoin shrdlu |
Posted - 9/14/2012 4:17:43 PM | show profile | flag this post
I love the...
"Democratic oversampled poll" excuse.
He fails to take into account that polling firms take that into account in calculating their final numbers and adjust accordingly to prevent skewing.
Fact is, Obama is opening up a widening lead over Romney.
Probably wider after this week's crisis -- handled by Obama like a true leader while Romney had a complete, panicked meltdown.
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| anonymous 1 |
Posted - 9/14/2012 5:14:35 PM | show profile | flag this post
presidential downgrade
SAN FRANCISCO (MarketWatch) -- Egan-Jones Ratings Co. said Friday it downgraded its U.S. sovereign rating to AA- from AA on concerns that the Fed's new round of quantitative easing, or QE3, will hurt the U.S. economy. The ratings agency said the Fed's plan of buying $40 billion in mortgage-backed securities a month and keeping interest rates near zero does little to raise GDP, reduces the value of the dollar, and raises the price of commodities. "From 2006 to present, the US's debt to GDP rose from 66% to 104% and will probably rise to 110% a year from today under current circumstances; the annual budget deficit is 8%," Egan-Jones said in a note. "In comparison, Spain has a debt to GDP of 68.5% and an annual budget deficit of 8.5%."
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/egan-jones-downgrades-us-rating-on-qe3-move-2012-09-14
These downgrades are becoming common place under Obama.
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| cruster |
Posted - 9/14/2012 5:37:23 PM | show profile | flag this post
Democrat-oversampled polls means
asking too many people's opinion.
If you get a large cross section of different backgrounds, ethnicities, religious beliefs, life experience, income, etc., then you're going to have a legitimate base of Americans. And that is the wrong way to construct a poll.
Those will always skew for Obama because most Americans think Romney is an idiot. It's not fair.
Stupid for the cause Ron Vegas puzo anonymous 1 SPC thesecondcoming, I mean Ron.
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| cruiser |
Posted - 9/14/2012 5:52:52 PM | show profile | flag this post
So everyone will understand
just how moronic the last post is:
Those who self-identify as conservative - 40%
Liberal - 20%
THAT'S why oversampling Democrats is dishonest.
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| Grateful Deadline |
Posted - 9/14/2012 7:40:39 PM | show profile | flag this post
Self-identification isn't reliable.
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| Grateful Deadline |
Posted - 9/14/2012 7:43:29 PM | show profile | flag this post
Self-identification isn't reliable -- you know that, Mr. Genius.
It's like asking a racist whether he's a racist. He may talk all around "dependent minorities" and all sorts of other crap, but he'll never identify himself as a racist because he doesn't see himself as one.
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| cruiser |
Posted - 9/14/2012 7:50:54 PM | show profile | flag this post
While I MIGHT be
inclined to agree in the case of a pejorative label such as racist, people wear their political paradigms like badges of honor. Therefore, they have no qualms about accurately labeling themselves as liberal, conservative, libertarian, etc.
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| Grateful Deadline |
Posted - 9/14/2012 9:13:27 PM | show profile | flag this post
It's a mistake to think that just because YOU do, everyone does. They don't. You yourself slap labels all over the place that are false or inaccurate. One person's center is another person's radical left. To me, you're far-right enough to topple over the edge of a flat Earth. ;o)
That's why self-reporting isn't accurate. In peer-reviewed journals, as you well know, self-reported studies aren't given nearly the same weight as quantifiable research, unless it is the accuracy of self-reporting that is being studied.
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| cruiser |
Posted - 9/14/2012 10:25:32 PM | show profile | flag this post
Of course, your ego
won't EVER permit you to admit I'm right.
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| Grateful Deadline |
Posted - 9/15/2012 10:49:00 AM | show profile | flag this post
See? You see yourself as right, not far-right.
A good illustration of the problem with self-identification.
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| mpdodgson |
Posted - 9/15/2012 6:08:12 PM | show profile | flag this post
Simple question cruise;
You keep harping on this Gallup poll from Jan of this year (In 2011--Those who self-identify as conservative - 40%; Liberal - 20%)
Ok. Got it. Doesn't that mean 60% DON'T identify themselves as Conservative?? Just sayin. Besides that, Gallup says that 2011 was "the third straight year that conservatives have outnumbered moderates," Yet--McCain still lost.
And Obama is still ahead as we speak--in every poll but Rasmussen--http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/us/general_election_romney_vs_obama-1171.html
So where are you going with this?? "admit I'm right." about what exactly?? That there are obviously conservatives and moderates that still think the president is a better choice than Romney?? Fine. You're right. Glad we cleared that up.
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| cruiser |
Posted - 9/15/2012 6:14:19 PM | show profile | flag this post
"Doesn't that mean
60% DON'T identify themselves as Conservative??"
What it means is 80 percent DON'T identify themselves as liberal. That's four out of five...an overwhelming majority in anybody's textbook.
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| cruiser |
Posted - 9/15/2012 6:19:36 PM | show profile | flag this post
And you keep relying on
those polls that are oversampling Democrats...the ones that are still using 2008 election turnout figures. That was before a LARGE percentage of Obama's 2008 voters became disenchanted.
The correctly sampled polls don't exhibit the same wishful thinking.
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| Grateful Deadline |
Posted - 9/15/2012 10:12:21 PM | show profile | flag this post
You've set up a non sequitur, cruiser.
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| Grateful Deadline |
Posted - 9/15/2012 10:19:11 PM | show profile | flag this post
Perhaps you clarify your argument and add logic to support it. Then you could tie it back to the original post; we know how much it bothers you when threads don't stick to the topic.
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| Grateful Deadline |
Posted - 9/15/2012 10:21:43 PM | show profile | flag this post
Perhaps you can clarify your argument and add logic to support it. Then you could tie it back to the original post; we know how much it bothers you when threads don't stick to the topic.
If you can make it relate to media professionals, so much the better, since that's the topic of the entire bulletin board.
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