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Politicians who 'never said that'
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| mpdodgson |
Posted - 8/11/2013 8:21:03 PM | show profile | flag this post
I know it's hardly a new phenomenon, and never restricted to any one party, but since were in the midst of 'Town Hall Silly Season'...be prpared for much more of this... Rep. Markwayne Mullin (R-OK) has a Town Hall. Besides the totally expected anti-ObamaCare rants, there was this one lady who was raving Birther lunatic. (She even brought with her a stack of Sheriff Joe Arpaio paperwork). Mullin's response?? "Let me just stop you right there. You're talking about the birth certificate?" Mullin said. "We lost that argument Nov. 6. We had four years to get that proven. We didn't. We re-elected him. So that's a dead issue." (Say Wha??) "I believe what you’re saying and I don’t support this president whatsoever". Well that sounds pretty clear to me. TPM posted the whole video. The Congressmans office got all bent out of shape, because you guessed it--the librul media took the poor guy out of context. "ThinkProgress, who initially posted the video, has never supported causes that my boss has participated in or legislation that he’s supported. They’ve never been a supporter of Markwayne Mullin," Kehl said. "And so, for us, we’re considering the source as to how they are trying to paint my boss is as a birther. And those comments were taken out of context and that is not who he is.” When TPM pointed out that another, unedited version of Mullin's exchange was also available online, Kehl said she would review the footage in order to provide "a better answer.” About an hour later, she provided an amended response. “I re-watched the video and the congressman just misspoke," she told TPM. "He doesn’t support the birther argument. He just misspoke when he said that." (OH. That's your better answer?) This comes on the heels of Mitt declaring--that 47% remark?? ""Actually, I didn't say that ...That's how it began to be perceived, and so I had to ultimately respond to the perception, because perception is reality." IT'S ON TAPE. "Romney's argument that the remarks were taken out of context is a new defense for him. During the campaign, he said at first that they were "not elegantly stated" and then that they were "completely wrong." So...if you never said it, how could they be completely wrong?? And let's not forget Sen Jon Kyl lying on the floor of congress, BUT ''his remark was not intended to be a factual statement"...and one of my personal favorites: Newt. “Any ad which quotes what I said on Sunday is a falsehood". It reminds me of arguing with the wingnuts here--'You do realize we can look back and quote what you said, don't you?'--I want to scream at these guys--'Have you NEVER heard of videotape??' Just venting. |
| blackedtaped |
Posted - 8/12/2013 10:42:30 AM | show profile | flag this post
It's called perspective I have been viewing and editing video tape for over 30 years now. The one thing I have never seen or heard on tape was the actual thoughts behind what someone said. It is always open to interpretation. You cannot honestly say what Romney meant by his comments, you can only speculate. I can think the President honestly does not know that Charleston, Savannah or Jacksonville are not on the Gulf coast since that's what he said. Like most everything else we are speculating on meaning behind the spoken word. It does not matter whether it is recorded or live because it is all filtered through our own perspective. |
| orthicon |
Posted - 8/12/2013 11:41:35 AM | show profile | flag this post
blacked.. i'd agree to some degree..but.. history is replete with examples of statements by people that are just factually flat wrong..and provably so.. not sure there's room for interpretation there.. a fact is a fact is a fact.. |
| blackedtaped |
Posted - 8/12/2013 11:46:04 AM | show profile | flag this post
So, orthicon. Are you saying you honestly think Obama does not know those ports are not on the Gulf coast? Or that Russia is hosting the Winter not Summer Olympics? In other words, when is a statement just "factually wrong" and when is it just "he misspoke"? |
| orthicon |
Posted - 8/12/2013 2:38:15 PM | show profile | flag this post
i'm not quibbling that such "misspeaks" don't exist..they do what I WILL quibble with is your use of the word "all".. in a sense, we're both right..both categories do exist, as we see and hear pretty much daily.. |
| mpdodgson |
Posted - 8/12/2013 10:42:57 PM | show profile | flag this post
blackedtape; I respectfully disagree "It's called perspective" I know that. I urge that all the time. When Obama refered to the states on the Gulf--that aren't on the Gulf--he was "factually wrong". Did everyone hear that? Obama was FACTUALLY WRONG. So he "misspoke" (the catch all phrase for years). Okay I'll buy that. Even the great '57 states'. He misspoke. He's still wrong... The "perspective" part comes in when you deal with the WHY. Did he mean to lie in an an-scripted un-teleprompt interviw with Leno?? Of course not. Considering everything he HAS said deliberately; is THIS important? Of course not--There's you perspective.. So back on topic; What bugged me about this aide was knee-jerking about the SOURCE, even though it contained videotape. Oops. Okay, he said...but he misspoke... "You cannot honestly say what Romney meant by his comments, you can only speculate." No, I know what he meant because it's on tape. That's it. Perspective is one thing. Screwing up in a live interview is one thing. But you just blatantly lie--No, that's something else. (And "on meaning behind the spoken word. It does not matter whether it is recorded or live because it is all filtered through our own perspective" Bull. When I see Newt LIVE “Any ad which quotes what I said on Sunday is a falsehood, because I have said publicly those words were inaccurate and unfortunate,” That's about as clear as you can get. |
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