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Putin owns Obama
Posted - 9/15/2013 11:04:00 AM | show profile | flag this post
MP, it's not only "I-Hate-Obama" all the time from cruiser.
The only people he doesn't hate are white men fitting his mutable personal concept of political conservatism. There's no value in investing time in a guy like that -- especially time off. None of us is obligated outside of work to engage with a belligerent poseur who foists off his narcissism and hatreds on everybody else. Even at work, our only obligation is to ferret out fakes and psych cases in order to ensure that they don't get an audience.
Posted - 9/15/2013 11:22:54 AM | show profile | flag this post
when the left loses the argument, they call you racist.
"no one who cares about him."
why would we on the left respond to every word of a person no one cares about?
like sargent schultz, the left just can't understand why everyone doesn't worship obama like they do.
Posted - 9/15/2013 1:39:04 PM | show profile | flag this post
There's no 'win or lose' argument here
Or at least there shouldn't be. We dodged another war. Another Mid-East war for that matter. We all know how well they go. Diplomacy worked...at least for the time being...and there is nothing wrong with the 'Reagan trust But Verify' rule...I don't trust Assad either, but now he has the whole world looking at him, and this time the Russians are on our side.
So, as in Libya, we managed to de-fuse another potential Iraq/Cheney/Bush clusterfuck without losing an American life or wasting trillions in the process. And for that the president should be what? Congragulated or condemned? Why pilloried of course. We didn't get to bomb anyone? Shit. Where's the fun in that. Where's Rummy when you need him? Or as Stewart put it, via the NYT:
Stewart played a clip of CNN’s Chris Cuomo wondering whether the Russian proposal “should” change the “entire debate,” and then Stewart went off: “Should it? On the one hand, geopolitical reality just shifted 100 percent, but, on the other hand, we built this graphic [shows CNN's "Crisis in Syria" graphic]! ‘Cause isn’t that the problem now? News networks aren’t invested in right or wrong, they’re invested in momentum. You can take us to war on false intelligence and pretense but god forbid you rev us up for war and you don’t deliver. The one thing we won’t tolerate is a little war foreplay without the payoff.”
Posted - 9/15/2013 2:22:53 PM | show profile | flag this post
"another potential Iraq/Cheney/Bush clusterf*ck"
Are you kidding??? Or are you trying to rewrite history with your wishful thinking?
Libya was STRICTLY Obama's screwup. It had NOTHING to do with Bush and/or Cheney.
Your hatred of anything and everything to the right of your radical left stance is clouding whatever good sense you might possibly have had.
Posted - 9/15/2013 3:54:32 PM | show profile | flag this post
Okay; Follow this, instead of kneejerk
...which is always your first reaction.
When I said "another potential Iraq/Cheney/Bush clusterf*ck" That. meant IRAQ. Not Syria. IRAQ. As in "another potential Iraq/Cheney/Bush clusterf*ck". Did I point out that Obama did NOT do in Syria and Libya what the Bushies did--which was attack first, count the bodies and questions later?
"Libya was STRICTLY Obama's screwup." WHAT screwup? Tell me. We 'helped' get rid of a dictator everyone hated (most especially your St. Reagan) and we did it with NO LOSS of American life. Obama has accomplished the goal of pulling troops OUT of two other wars started by another president with the mimimum loss of life.
"Your hatred of anything and everything to the right of your radical left stance is clouding whatever good sense you might possibly have had." Okay. I'm not saying you're right, I'm not saying you're wrong.
What I am saying is First; when any president does his utmost to avoid WAR...isn't that a good thing? If that means reaching out others (shall we say less desirable nations), who cares? What's the goal here? The goal is to avoid war.
And, Second, don't you dare give me that "Your hatred of anything and everything" bullshit. Obamas very existence drives you insane. Hey, btw, how's that Romney lanslide working out for ya? And did you get yer tickets yet for the President Cruz Inaugural?? Lonely lonely place inside that head.
Posted - 9/15/2013 9:26:03 PM | show profile | flag this post
"We 'helped' get rid of a dictator everyone hated"
what has replaced this dictator?
"Obama has accomplished the goal of pulling troops OUT of two other wars started by another president with the mimimum loss of life."
you do know more soldiers have been killed in afghanistan under obama's watch.
"mimimum loss of life."? not so much.
could be worse. could be chiraq......
Posted - 9/16/2013 12:09:56 AM | show profile | flag this post
The figures you cite are apropos of nothing in the conversation.
Posted - 9/16/2013 1:01:38 PM | show profile | flag this post
Who owns whom?
The U.S., NATO and Israel have been trying to get Syria to give up its chemical weapons for years.
Now, we've gotten Russia to do the dirty work for us.
We have a highly detailed plan and agreement signed within a week after Kerry proposed the idea -- three weeks after Democrats in Congress proposed it.
Seems like this plan was in the works for quite a while -- and Russia finally took the bait.
Posted - 9/16/2013 2:51:32 PM | show profile | flag this post
Call me skeptical but
this dude ALWAYS has a "different" take on things that nobody has ever heard of before. To read the crap he posts, one would think he's in on every secret meeting in the world and privvy to the discussions and plans of every government.
In other words, he's WAY too "good" to be true. And...as the old bromide goes...when that happens, it usually isn't.
Posted - 9/16/2013 5:36:57 PM | show profile | flag this post
He's in D.C., not Milpitas.
Posted - 9/16/2013 9:21:48 PM | show profile | flag this post
Aw cruise. Lighten up.
"To read the crap he posts, one would think he's in on every secret meeting in the world and privvy to the discussions and plans of every government." Now on the srface...that does sound bad.
But how many times have we all heard here crap like 'What Obama is really doing...What Obama really wants...What Obama's real (Socialist/Nazi/Dictator) plan is...(and a classic)...the REAL agenda is to take everyones guns...blah blah blah...
Wingnuts are specialists when it comes to 'inside information that has no basis in reality. IMO.