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Romney's "'Lehman moment"

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etaoin shrdlu	Posted - 9/12/2012 1:16:58 PM \| show profile \| flag this post Even Republicans are hitting Romney over his latest foreign policy implosion. After the attack on the U.S. consulate in Libya -- and the subsequent deaths of the Ambassador and three other staff -- Romney blasted Obama for "apologizing" to the attackers. Problem is, Obama NEVER issued an apology -- and in fact strongly condemned the attackers. From BuzzFeed: "[A] very senior Republican foreign policy hand...called the statement an 'utter disaster' and a 'Lehman moment' — a parallel to the moment when John McCain, amid the 2008 financial crisis, failed to come across as a steady leader." http://www.buzzfeed.com/bensmith/foreign-policy-hands-voice-disbelief-at-romney-cai

anonymous 1	Posted - 9/12/2012 1:24:11 PM \| show profile \| flag this post The Obama Admin. did issue a apology. Romney was 100% correct. What you call a implosion, most will call fact. More unnamed attacks on Romney. The media is defending Obama. No surprise. No one can doubt the media is all in for Obama.

anonymous 1	Posted - 9/12/2012 1:25:58 PM \| show profile \| flag this post Carrying the ambassador to the hospital? What a f'n joke.

cruster	Posted - 9/12/2012 1:26:28 PM \| show profile \| flag this post Yes Most Will Call it a Fact Then the fact checkers will point out that that is wrong, then we will make a fuss about fact checkers and ignoring them and ignoring facts, when they don't support our argument and that the truth is a liberal plot. It is the conservative way.

etaoin shrdlu	Posted - 9/12/2012 1:28:46 PM \| show profile \| flag this post Care to back that up with facts, any1? Obama NEVER apologized. The administration denounced an apology by the embassy staff BEFORE the attacks. Romney accused Obama of apologizing DURING the attack. NEVER HAPPENED. May want to check your own facts before you wind up as embarrassed as Romney is this afternoon. Notice how Romney has been keeping a low profile, ignoring the attacks, since his blunder this morning? And it's his own REPUBLICANS ripping Romney for his implosion.

etaoin shrdlu	Posted - 9/12/2012 1:35:14 PM \| show profile \| flag this post More reaction blasting Romney's statement... "Romney's approach hands the Obama team an opening to cast the challenger as not ready for the job, someone who jumps to conclusions before all the facts are known." http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2012/09/12/the-politics-of-the-libya-attack/ 'Said another Republican: 'I guess we see now that it is because [the Romney campaign is] incompetent at talking effectively about foreign policy. This is just unbelievable -- when they decide to play on it they completely bungle it.'" http://www.buzzfeed.com/bensmith/foreign-policy-hands-voice-disbelief-at-romney-cai "[The Romney campaign's] doubling down on criticism of the President for the statement coming out of Cairo is likely to be seen as one of the most craven and ill-advised tactical moves in this entire campaign." http://thepage.time.com/2012/09/12/romney-and-foreign-policy/ "This was news-cycle campaigning by the Romney campaign gone awry. Why didn't the Romney campaign wait until it had all the facts?" http://firstread.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/09/12/13827378-first-thoughts-over-the-top?lite "The foolishness of Romney's reaction is glaring. Pretending that the statement from the U.S. embassy in Cairo was anything other than a completely understandable and reasonable attempt by its occupants to save their own lives borders on disgraceful. Romney's implication that the statement was issued at the height of the attacks is also false; it was actually released earlier in the day, a preventive measure aimed at keeping the protests from turning violent." ww.salon.com/2012/09/12/mitt’s_shameful_libya_statement/

anonymous 1	Posted - 9/12/2012 1:37:59 PM \| show profile \| flag this post "More reaction blasting Romney's statement..." That should read "More Liberal reaction blasting Romney's statement..." What are the names of Romney's own Republicans?

beenthere	Posted - 9/12/2012 1:42:28 PM \| show profile \| flag this post Does anyone think the Republicans are trying to lose the election? Regardless of their ideals, most of their past campaigns have been slick, smart marketing, targeting the demos they need to WIN. THis year, I swear a junior high government class could put together a better campaign. And Romney is still not airing any TV ads in So Fla.

annoymous 1	Posted - 9/12/2012 1:56:07 PM \| show profile \| flag this post I have to admit Romney demonstrated that he's not ready. The statement he made was a vile, disgusting, political exploitation of four dead Americans.

etaoin shrdlu	Posted - 9/12/2012 2:03:34 PM \| show profile \| flag this post This doesn't sound like an apology to me From Obama's statement on the attacks: "No acts of terror will ever shake the resolve of this great nation, alter that character or eclipse the light of the values that we stand for. "Today we mourn for more Americans who represent the very best of the United States of America. We will not waver in our commitment to see that justice is done for this terrible act. And make no mistake, justice will be done. " Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/09/12/transcript-president-obama-remarks-following-deadly-attacks-at-us-consulate-in/#ixzz26HAHauT7

etaoin shrdlu	Posted - 9/12/2012 3:51:28 PM \| show profile \| flag this post And since when... is sending in the Marines an "apology?" http://www.azfamily.com/news/national/Marines-headed-to-Libya-to-reinforce-security--169462246.html Romney has enough egg on his face to raise the cholesterol level of half of Mississippi!

cruiser	Posted - 9/12/2012 4:40:16 PM \| show profile \| flag this post I read the transcript The ACTUAL, WHOLE transcript. While I didn't find it particularly apologetic, I DID find it to be VERY thin on condemnation of those who perpetrated this shameless terrorist attack and unduly concilliatory. Obama made one...ONE...reference to Stevens' death and "work(ing) with the Libyan government to bring to justice the killers who attacked our people." Other...let's say more endowed...administrations would have been breating fire and brimstone. He also mischaracterized the actions of Libyan "security" forces, which not only did NOT carry Stevens' body to the hospital but, in fact, told the terrorists where Stevens could be found. He was killed by the terrorists who then dragged his body through the streets of Benghazi. http://www.libertarianrepublican.net/2012/09/first-photos-emerge-of-ambassador.html

annoymous 1	Posted - 9/12/2012 5:20:39 PM \| show profile \| flag this post "Dr. Ziad Abu Zeid, who treated Stevens, told The Associated Press that he died of asphyxiation, apparently from smoke. In a sign of the chaos during the attack, Stevens was brought by Libyans to the Benghazi Medical Center with no other Americans, and no one at the facility knew who he was, Abu Zeid said. Stevens was practically dead when he arrived before 1 a.m. Wednesday, and "we tried to revive him for an hour and a half, but with no success," Abu Zeid said. The ambassador was bleeding in his stomach because of the asphyxiation but had no other injuries, he said."

annoymous 1	Posted - 9/12/2012 5:21:59 PM \| show profile \| flag this post link http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/american-killed-libya-protest-film-17215128#.UFDuyo1HmSo

cdnreprtr	Posted - 9/12/2012 6:31:00 PM \| show profile \| flag this post Romney failed the 3am call test. Core cons like cruiser will lap it all up, but I think it is pretty clear Romney made a major, campaign defining, misstep by playing politics with this one ... Leaving a lot of moderates and independents shaking their heads, right across key demos. Sure, he was uncomfortable and flubbed the foreign trip. That s forgivable. But given the chance to backtrack from yesterday's statement (before the deaths were announced) he instead doubled down on the partisanship. If there's anything the past decade has taught Americans, is that you can't play games with foreign policy. Tough talk isn't just cheap, it is dangerous, and has led America and its men and women in uniform down some difficult paths. Romney came off as flippant, unmeasured and angry .. At a time when compassion forth victims and a call for clarity and unity was needed. Even bush understood that, instinctively, after 9/11. Romney may be a good business leader. But today he showed that's not enough to fill the chair in the oval office. I'd image the RNC and most GOPers are flocking to the congressional races now. Cut the dead weight, play defense, win what you can....

mpdodgson	Posted - 9/12/2012 6:35:34 PM \| show profile \| flag this post In my opinion Romney's mish mash and totally incorrect, response to this tragedy will come back to bit him in the ass. Claiming the president he apologized for 'something'--which he didn't do---shows Mitts foreign policy credentials extend to Utah. Said it before, will sy it again; It's NOT just the economy stupid. The team of Obama & Clinton has been sterling when it comes to foreign policy..that IS and WILL BE an issue. Voting for War Resolutions does NOT make you a foreign policy expert. That's Ryan's Tapping the American taxpayers for a billion dollar bailout to save the Olympics does NOT make you a foreign policy pro. And lying about Obama apologizing for anything--that doesn't make you a foreign policy pro either. Add to that Mitt's ridiculous statements today--you end up with a team not prepared to deal with the rest of the world. It's NOT just the economy.

anonymous 1	Posted - 9/12/2012 6:55:32 PM \| show profile \| flag this post a great piece: "The President's Libyan policy encouraged extremists to overthrow their government, and thereby to cast down the only security apparatus that country had known. That policy saw police forces replaced with militias. It saw militias acting like mobs. This is the dirty secret, largely untold in American media, of the Arab Spring. Loose the extremists, arm them, invite them to fight each other, and then have no way to control them after the dust settles. President Obama embraced this policy, but he did not have the skill or experience to understand where it would lead. President Bush was rightly criticized for inadequately planning for the aftermath of the overthrow of Saddam Hussein. President Obama similarly failed to plan for the aftermath of the overthrow of Khaddafy. He put the mob in charge in Libya and then hoped for the best. That's not a coherent foreign policy. That's an abdication of duty." Looks like Obama ignored years worth embassy security warnings . The msm will try to explain that away. Or bury the fact. mpdodgson, recent CNN polling and some others show foreign policy falling on the list of concerns voters have. Short of Israel attacking Iran or a terrorist attack, the "i killed osama" card won't have much value.

cdnreprtr	Posted - 9/12/2012 7:20:08 PM \| show profile \| flag this post The problem with your argument anon Is that Libya held free and fair national elections last month, that returned a moderate, majority, government over better organized Islamists, including the Muslim Brotherhood. That's not to say the are not a lot of problems .. Armed militias, and radicals .... But it's not correct to characterize Libya (which has always had ties to european cultures etc) as radical and Islamist as, say, Afghanistan, Yemen, or even Egypt. Frankly ghadaffi, monster that he was, simply beat, tortured and killed a lot of that through his brutal, and bizarre, secular ideology.

mpdodgson	Posted - 9/12/2012 9:42:53 PM \| show profile \| flag this post anon? I agree, to a point... "mpdodgson, recent CNN polling and some others show foreign policy falling on the list of concerns voters have." I understand that. But please keep in mind that foreign policy concerns can change as fast as the Nightly News. And domestic security. And Romney/Ryan have to answer these questions against Obam/Biden. IF you were a betting man, who do you think will be more able to handle the tough foreign policy questions??? One guy who says he met foreign athletes (Oooo cool) or the other guy who says since he voted for War--that makes him a foreign poloicy expert. Seriously folks. These guys are out matched. And for the umpteenth time--it's NOT just the economy.

cruiser	Posted - 9/12/2012 10:05:37 PM \| show profile \| flag this post I don't think Romney and Ryan are outmatched at all Even after four years of practice, Obama is still screwing it up.

cruiser	Posted - 9/12/2012 10:51:13 PM \| show profile \| flag this post It's now been revealed that one of those dreaded "open mics" caught a group of "journalists" conspiring to attack and try to embarrass Romney by asking variations of the question, "Do you now regret your statement or do you stand by it?" The purpose of the collusion was said to be an effort to build an anti-Romney narrative among the press corps. And I'd bet my next paycheck there are at least a couple left wingers here who were aware of that...perhaps even participated.

it's just tv folks	Posted - 9/12/2012 11:55:35 PM \| show profile \| flag this post Mitt Romney = awkward oaf (at best) No matter what excuse the trolls here regurgitate from the likes of Rush and brietbart, it was Mitt Romney and his "team" that put out a political press release before they had all the facts. It was Mitt Romney and his "team" that doubled down on that repulsive and exploitative statement after the timeline was clearer. It was Mitt Romney and his "team" that are acting like bulls in a china shop during this crisis AS it is happening. Mitt Romney is UNFIT for the office he is seeking.

cruiser	Posted - 9/13/2012 2:16:20 AM \| show profile \| flag this post Mitt Romney is orders of magnitude more fit than the current occupant of that office.

cruster	Posted - 9/13/2012 2:29:22 AM \| show profile \| flag this post Romney is Right... ... to criticize Obama even when it's disgusting and pathetic and wrong. Because defeating Obama matters more than dignity or country or human life. At all cost we MUST WIN! If it takes someone capitalizing on murder then we should do it. It doesn't matter how vile and low Romney goes, or how much we never liked him in the first place. All that matters is beating Obama because he's... you know... (black).

etaoin shrdlu	Posted - 9/13/2012 8:45:07 AM \| show profile \| flag this post Romney SHOULD regret... his statement. The difference between Romney and Obama's reaction was simple: Obama reacted by ordering security stepped up at ALL embassies and consulates, he ordered the Marines to Libya and Air Force drones in the air over Libya, and he issued an immediate order allowing U.S. security forces at embassies to use whatever resources they have at their disposal to defend U.S. soil. Romney's first reaction was: "How can I use this to score political points?" Not a single, senior Republican senator has repeated Romney's outrageous lie. And even Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) said that Democrats and Republicans were united in the resolve to face these threats. Only someone like cruzo, who has posted his disdain for our troops in the past, would think that sending in the Marines could in any way be construed as an "apology."