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Russia dealing with "Muslim" Terrorists
Posted - 12/30/2013 7:08:44 PM | show profile | flag this post
Read several articles today about the terrorist attacks in Russia, with the Olympics just weeks away. The articles were filled with references to "terrorists", but only a couple of times did the word "Muslim" show up. And that was at the end of the articles. Seems the media is again soft peddling the connection of Muslims to terrorism. Being PC. However, one article (in it's single mention of muslims) did made a cogent point, that all nations...ours included...should focus on, and that is the fact that in Russia most cities in and beyond the region of the olympics have had an influx of muslim settlements, which has allowed for the extremists to find footholds in which to stage their terrorist operations.
I think we're naive if we think there isn't radical activity being fermented in our own muslim communities.
Before you go nuts, of course I know all muslims aren't radicals. But I'd bet many of the non radicals have sympathies for the radicals.
Posted - 12/30/2013 8:32:40 PM | show profile | flag this post
Before you go nuts...
of course I know all gun owners aren't crazed mass murderers. But I'd bet many of the respoonsible gun owners have sympathies for the crazed gunmen.
Made just about as much sense as what you said. See how stupid you sound?
But back on topic, you "Read several articles today" and couldn't mention any of them?? I saw/read several too. "A trio of deadly bombings has focused new attention on Chechen warlord Doku Umarov, who has claimed responsibility for a wave of similar attacks in the name of Islam and vowed to stop the Sochi Games." (NBC front page right now) "Suicide bombings have rocked Russia for years, but the insurgency seeking to create an Islamic state has been largely confined to the North Caucasus region in the past few years. The successive attacks in Volgograd signal that militants want to show their reach outside their native region." (CBS right now) ""Radical Islamist groups tied to the war against the Russian state now have much deeper roots, and are far more active, in Dagestan than in Chechnya," Rajan Menon, senior fellow at the Atlantic Council" (CNN right now)
I'd also point out that this is all educated speculation, since no one group has claimed credit yet for any of it. But of course, you know the truth. Gotcha.
Posted - 12/31/2013 4:24:09 AM | show profile | flag this post
No, I'm not stupid. Thank you for asking.
Posted - 12/31/2013 8:07:54 AM | show profile | flag this post
Yet another thread
...citing the lack of something in the Mainstream media, followed by a simple post completely de-bunking said premise.
Why do you folks continually do this? You read some right winger somewhere, making an expansive claim about the mainstream media and their left wing proclivities, and you just buy it, sight unseen. It's Gospel to you, so you repeat it, without so much as bothering to check.
You've done this into the hundreds of times on these boards in the last few years. In nearly every instance you've been easily proven wrong, but day after day, you come back and do it again.
Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
Posted - 12/31/2013 9:16:44 AM | show profile | flag this post
only a tiny proportion of Muslims are terrorists. About the same percentage as Christian, Jewish or Hindu terrorists.
Would you want those people who bomb abortion clinics called "Christian" terrorists? Would you, as mp pointed out, want every mass shooter to be described along the lines of "'gun owner' John Doe killed four people at a school today?" Should we go so far as saying things like "John Doe, a devout Baptist, was executed today for the murders of his wife and children in 1997?"
The Muslims I know will tell you that terrorists have given up their right to be called "Muslim."
Posted - 12/31/2013 11:17:30 AM | show profile | flag this post
"only a tiny proportion of Muslims are terrorists"
In fact, it's reliably estimated...and generally acknowledged...to be about ten percent. Given the world Muslim population of 1.1 billion, that's 110 million terrorists.
Posted - 12/31/2013 11:37:49 AM | show profile | flag this post
In fact, it's reliably estimated
Glen Beck? Rush Limbaugh? You?
Your prejudice is egregious.
Posted - 12/31/2013 11:53:38 AM | show profile | flag this post
I thought we went thru this before. The ten percent figure apparently comes from Beck (repeatedly) with nothing to back it up.
Thanks cruise for not dissapointing.
Posted - 12/31/2013 12:47:16 PM | show profile | flag this post
The last time we went through this, pal
you had no axe to grind and agreed with me on the percentage.
What's different this time? The Democrat narrative on this issue demands that Muslims NOT be identified as terrorists.
The FACT is that terrorists...who ARE Muslim...in Chechya, Dagestan and surrounding areas of the North Caucasus have been waging a terror war on Russian rule for decades. You may remember the schoolyard shooting in which over 100 people...many children...were killed by Islamic terrorists.
As a factual and somewhat interesting aside: the Tsarnayev brothers...the Boston bombers...were of Chechnyan descent, lived for a time in Kyrgystan (also in the North Caucasus region) and spent some time in Dagestan prior to their emigration to the US..
Posted - 12/31/2013 12:57:18 PM | show profile | flag this post
Baloney on top of baloney?
That's quite a sandwich you're building, cruiser.
Posted - 12/31/2013 1:31:49 PM | show profile | flag this post
Do the research, dearie
You'll find YOU'RE the one full of baloney.
But I'm aware that your objective is not accuracy but a fervent wish not to be confronted by any contradiction of the left wing talking points.
Posted - 12/31/2013 1:58:18 PM | show profile | flag this post
Do the research, dearie
Like your research oh brave toothless one?
All the sites claiming such high numbers are right wing nut job sites. In other words, bookmarked by cruiser.
Never mind that 110 million Islamic radicals would be an army of staggering proportion. Egregiously huge.
Of course, this from someone who dismisses accepted science out of hand.
Posted - 12/31/2013 2:29:39 PM | show profile | flag this post
They're ALL out to get ya cruise.
Posted - 12/31/2013 2:51:51 PM | show profile | flag this post
About what I'd expect
from someone who has nothing intelligent to add.
Posted - 12/31/2013 4:48:50 PM | show profile | flag this post
And that, friends, was the retort of genius.
Posted - 12/31/2013 4:56:10 PM | show profile | flag this post
You know, cruiser, if it weren't for you, we might actually generate a thought-provoking exchange in this forum.
Where do you even manage to come up with the junk you post? You are one frickin' amazing fantasizer. Between that and the perpetual surliness, you must drive the people around you crazy. If there are any.
Posted - 12/31/2013 5:00:56 PM | show profile | flag this post
Were you looking in a mirror as you wrote that?
But I just broke my new rule.
Posted - 1/1/2014 10:01:35 AM | show profile | flag this post
All these posts later, and cruiser still
...hasn't posted the source for his claims.
Something tells me that the new year will be just as filled fatuous, unsubstantiated claims that 2013 was.
Posted - 1/1/2014 11:06:22 AM | show profile | flag this post
The claim (again, for the record)
"In fact, it's reliably estimated...and generally acknowledged...to be about ten percent. Given the world Muslim population of 1.1 billion, that's 110 million terrorists."
"reliably estimated...and generally acknowledged". Yea. By Glenn Beck and cruise. You're right Tex, we're in for another year of this.
Posted - 1/1/2014 11:15:20 AM | show profile | flag this post
Happy New Year, MP
May the wind be ever under your wings (borrowing a bit from Hunger Games).
Posted - 1/1/2014 2:06:30 PM | show profile | flag this post
Daniel Pipes is
a journalist who is also one of the foremost experts on the Middle East. Born September 9, 1949, Pipes is an American historian, writer, and political commentator. He is the president of the Middle East Forum, and publisher of its Middle East Quarterly journal. His writing focuses on American foreign policy and the Middle East.
Pipes sets the number of Islamists (Muslim militants or terrorists) at between 10 and 15 percent of the Muslim population worldwide. My figure of 10 percent was, therefore, conservative.
Pipes article on Islamists:
Since I've answered the call of the left wing fringe to provide corroboration of my assertion that militant Muslims number about 10 percent of the worldwide Muslim population, the left wingers on here will now embark on a campaign designed to trivialize, marginalize, personally attack and denigrate Pipes.
It's just what they do. They CANNOT STAND to be shown up as egregiously wrong and will do everything they can to obscure that fact.
Oh, there are SEVERAL more easily accessible links that will show similar estimates of the radical Islamic population. I don't have time to hold the hands of the wrongheaded idiots on here. They can use Google and other search media just as easily as I can.
Posted - 1/1/2014 5:09:29 PM | show profile | flag this post
Daniel Pipes isn't a journalist. He knows so himself -- the bio on his website (danielpipes.org) never makes that claim. (Note, too, the ".org" in his URL.)
For 2014, consider resolving to learn the difference between journalism and advocacy and the difference between news and opinion. It could change your life.
When such an obvious error appears in the very first sentence of a post, there's no reason to believe the rest of the post is built on credibility or integrity. If you want your posts to be read, then try to stop resorting to cheap tricks to stir the pot. And if you're posting garbage because you picked it up someplace else, remember this important basic rule of reporting: If your mother says she loves you, check it out. Then post.
Posted - 1/1/2014 5:15:39 PM | show profile | flag this post
Did I not accurately predict
what the lame left wing fringe would try to do?
Posted - 1/1/2014 5:26:45 PM | show profile | flag this post
Here's an analysis from Loonwatch.com (a blog out of Princeton University) built on a CNN report and data from Duke, UNC and the FBI: http://www.loonwatch.com/2010/01/not-all-terrorists-are-muslims/
Note that the 6 percent are of all *terrorists,* not of all *Muslims.* Note also who makes up the biggest slice of the pie chart, and read down for an explanation of who makes up the majority of that slice.
Be afraid, be very afraid!
Posted - 1/1/2014 5:32:17 PM | show profile | flag this post
When you say "left wing fringe," would you mind defining who in the universe you're talking about? What I see are constant out-of-left-field comments from you about "left wing fringe." Then make no sense.
However, I can't play with you today; I have work to finish for one of the jobs you claim that I don't have.
Have fun playing with yourself. Ask the home to give you some pork, greens and black-eyed peas for a good-luck New Year's Day dinner. The greens and peas will keep you regular, too.