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Shoot any kids today, Yanks?
Posted - 1/16/2014 7:55:01 AM | show profile | flag this post
Congrats ...For being a truly exceptional nation on earth.
Clap. Clap. Clap.
Not only do you have so many school shootings that it is no longer a 2nd day news lede (man y'all love that Canadian Beiber to bump hard content) ... but your schools now actually have specific "school shooting drills" for students to address the clear and present threat.
Your new normal.
Yeah. No other country, industrialized, civilized, first or third world, has that. No need for it. Not even contemplated.
Kids, folks. Children shooting children.
Guns don't kill kids ... Kids kill kids?
Is that your moral, logical, NRA argument now?
Even Afghanistan, Iraq and Somalia have better gun ... I don't even know what to call it ... Ethics? Decency? Common sense?
Oh, sorry. Your "constitution" makes it all OK. Inviolable. Can't even whisper that criticism.
(Oh, and save me the crocodile tears and "too soon" blah blah sensitivity argument and Libril attacks. All y'all Cons forget about dead kids as soon as the NRA gits their polling and money flowing. You. Won't. Do. Anything. Except always attack, and never apologize.)
Con Cowards. Sickening. Pathetic.
I guess y'all can and will somehow blame Obama, tho'
"Odiee Carranza, an eighth-grade student, told The Associated Press that a boy bumped into her as he rushed toward the gym and apologized to her. When the boy entered the gym, Odiee said, she saw him pull a gun out of a band instrument case and begin shooting.
She said he shot another boy twice in the face and shot a girl in the arm.
"Then he shot up in the sky, then dropped the gun, and then some teacher grabbed the kid that had the gun," Odiee told the AP.
Masterson, an eighth-grade social studies teacher, eventually encouraged the shooter to put down the gun and raise his hands. The governor said Masterson put the boy up against the wall as police began to arrive in the gym.
Martinez complimented the students for exiting the gym in an organized fashion and credited drills the school had conducted in the past."
Posted - 1/16/2014 12:17:32 PM | show profile | flag this post
Why don't you put some thought into coming up with workable solutions to this problem?
It would be so much better than simply lashing out at the Americans in this forum.
We all know the professionalism involves not only citing problems, but also proposing solutions to them. What are yours?
Posted - 1/16/2014 1:49:49 PM | show profile | flag this post
Grateful, I know you are so much smarter than me, so much smarter than everyone, but I think you maybe missed the point of the original post. Nothing changes. The majority of Americans support background checks, but look what happened in Colorado when the state legislature passed very mild gun legislation.
I've posted a bit on this subject and I share the frustration of cdnreprtr. These shootings keep happening. How do these kids keep getting their hands on guns? We need to demand RESPONSIBLE gun ownership. Don't leave guns where kids can get at them. But the response is always "but you're taking away my sekonned menment riiights to be stupid with as many gunz as I want!"
Posted - 1/16/2014 3:22:37 PM | show profile | flag this post
nleer, I know you're only being sarcastic and deameaning, but how does taking off after Americans on this forum SOLVE the problem?
Do you really believe that nobody's frustrated but you?
Come up with solutions. Flapping your jaws isn't a solution. Sitting on your ass isn't a solution. Calling Americans names isn't a solution. Bitching at Americans on this forum isn't a solution.
When you report on a problem, you also report on solutions. Come up with some.
Posted - 1/16/2014 4:00:39 PM | show profile | flag this post
Hey, smartass, now that you've provided a TOPIC -- "responsible gun ownership" -- how about defining what that is and laying out steps to get there?
One step could be mandatory safety education for parents before their kids are allowed to attend school. It would work just like getting the kids vaccinated before they can go to school -- you don't do it, your kid doesn't get in, and if your kids doesn't get in, you get prosecuted. Parents would be required to take a refresher every two years. The course would include how to recognize trouble signs, alternative actions to take about it, confidentiality, overcoming stigmas and baloney like that. Then we might be able to head off some of these little future murderers and keep the family gun safe locked with the key hidden.
I'm frankly fed up with parents' shirking their parental responsibilities, making so many of these shootings possible.
Posted - 1/16/2014 5:44:41 PM | show profile | flag this post
YOU stay clever cdnreprtr. Keep pretending to be Canadian. Or was it European?
Posted - 1/16/2014 5:53:35 PM | show profile | flag this post
You stay clever, cruzo...
keep pretending to be Quinn, or was it Puzo?
Posted - 1/16/2014 6:20:03 PM | show profile | flag this post
Or was it connewcredsecondcomingfreedomsomethingblacktapepuzowhoever else you parnoid folks think i am.
Posted - 1/16/2014 6:20:47 PM | show profile | flag this post
Hey smartass, I agree with holding parents accountable. Let's stop letting parents off the hook. I've come across too many stories where a 5 yr old gets the parent's gun and shoots his sibling. Parents aren't charged because "they've already suffered enough." BULL. They deserve jail time for putting their children in a dangerous environment.
Posted - 1/17/2014 10:11:54 AM | show profile | flag this post
from 9-11, to skhool killings, to making fun of children with downs syndrome and bulling black babies, pond scum isn't beneath you.
Posted - 1/17/2014 11:56:09 AM | show profile | flag this post
*** Hey smartass, I agree with holding parents accountable. ... Parents aren't charged because "they've already suffered enough." BULL. They deserve jail time for putting their children in a dangerous environment. ***
Hey, smartass, can you cite the source of your quote? I'd like to pick up the entire quote.
And, hey, smartass, you can turn talk into action by paying attention to the records of the judicial candidates you elect. Re-elect the fryin', hangin' judges. Campaign against the lenient judges, and clean them out of your courthouse.
Posted - 1/17/2014 11:57:30 AM | show profile | flag this post
What concrete ideas do *you* have for changing the situation?
Posted - 1/17/2014 3:15:18 PM | show profile | flag this post
Prosecuters also decline to prosecute because "parents have suffered enough".
I notice you have been doing a lot of assuming lately. Many of your assumptions have been uninformed and many just plain wrong. I hope you use higher standards when you are "practicing journalism".
btw, thanks for letting me know that I can vote and that I should study the candidates' records.
Posted - 1/17/2014 3:51:31 PM | show profile | flag this post
Thanks for posting the links, it made for interesting reading. I agree with you that negligent parents should be prosecuted, especially when their negligence results in death.
I do feel I should point out that your quote regarding why the parents are not prosecuted was speculation on the part of the leader of a national gun violence protection group. When quoting a source make sure you properly identify the source.
Posted - 1/18/2014 10:52:00 AM | show profile | flag this post
Grateful dead from the neck up...
Solutions??? You want solutions??? How about gun registration, background checks, banning semi-automatic weapons and assault rifles? Those are solutions we have been pushing for years but idiots like you think it's against our "rights" as 'Mericuns. Seriously, we have a real problem with guns in this country but pinheads on the right just love to have a big rifle to make up for their small genitalia. It is very sad, but there is a solution. There is no reason anyone needs a gun that can hold more than six bullets at a time (really two or three). Single bolt action would be a good requirement. There you go. A solution. Happy?
Posted - 1/18/2014 2:58:58 PM | show profile | flag this post
Gun registration. There's already gun registration.
Background checks. We have background checks.
Banning semi-automatic weapons and assault rifles.
Been there, done that. With little to no impact.
If we have such a problem with guns, why are crimes rates dropping every year?
If you want to talk about "rights", answer me this.
Do you believe the privacy rights of the individual trump the rights of our society to stay safe?
Shouldn't we make it easier for police, places that sell guns and employers to have access to mental health records?
Shouldn't we work to fix our mental health system to make it easier for families to seek out care for their love ones who are mentally ill and/or have behavioral issues?
Posted - 1/18/2014 4:14:06 PM | show profile | flag this post
Quint? You're partially correct...
In all your statements. The problem is "partially" doesn't really comfort or heal you if you're partially shot or partially dead.
"Gun registration. There's already gun registration". Not always, not everywhere, and you know it. One state has it, drive two miles over the border, and they don't.
"Background checks. We have background checks." Same as above, and you know it. In MY state?? Pennsylvania does not:
*Prohibit the transfer or possession of assault weapons, 50 caliber rifles or large capacity ammunition magazines; *Require firearm owners to obtain a license; *Require the registration of firearms; *Limit the number of firearms that may be purchased at one time; *Impose a waiting period on firearm purchases; *Regulate unsafe handguns, *Regulate ammunition sales, *Allow local governments to regulate firearms or ammunition; or Provide local law enforcement with discretion to deny a license to carry firearms.
"Banning semi-automatic weapons and assault rifles. Been there, done that. With little to no impact." Well, actually, if you were a third grader who had their head taken off by a semi-automatic assault rifle--that's pretty much the definition of 'having an impact'. Since no one has ever convinced me that you need a machine gun to take down a wild turkey or a deer, banning something that shoots a couple hundred bullets at a time seems prudent to say the least.
"If you want to talk about "rights", answer me this. Do you believe the privacy rights of the individual trump the rights of our society to stay safe?"
Yes. Yes. And Yes. You're right to own a friggin machine gun does not out-weigh my right to not getting shot.
As for your "Shouldn't we make it easier for police, places that sell guns and employers to have access to mental health records?...work to fix our mental health system to make it easier for families to seek out care for their love ones who are mentally ill and/or have behavioral issues?"
There? I think you're absolutely, positively correct. Just my opinion.