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State of the Union
Posted - 2/11/2013 11:20:26 PM | show profile | flag this post
Well this could be fun. The speech most Republicans swore Obama would never deliver.
It sounds like it's mostly going to be "emphasizing the economy and revisiting the economic themes from his re-election campaign. The speech “will outline his plan to create jobs and grow the middle class by investing in people,” (administration officia) “The president’s plan grows the economy from the middle out by investing in manufacturing, clean energy, education, and infrastructure.”
"While the White House maintains they have been focused on the economy, tomorrow’s speech will put an end to the chatter (they hope) that they haven’t spent enough time TALKING about the economy."
That ain't gonna happen. The "official" GOP Response will be from Rubio. (I know what my friend stopbs will be watching) The 'TeaParty' Response will be from Rand Paul. (Yea. Boehner reeeeeally has control over his own party).
My favorite tidbit was this: "Typically, State of the Union guests are inspirational everyday citizens who have overcome obstacles or performed heroic feats. On the exact opposite end of the spectrum, Texas congressman Steve Stockman has invited Ted Nugent — a man who has suggested Obama "suck on" a machine gun, vaguely threatened to assassinate Obama, and recently offered to start an uprising against Obama — to be his special guest at tomorrow's address." (NYT blogger)
Well isn't that special. I guess after a Repub yelled out "You Lie!" they decided to after a classier audience.
Posted - 2/12/2013 7:01:09 AM | show profile | flag this post
Anyone want to still argue..
... That The Crazies aren't mainstream GOP?
But of course the right doesn't think Nuget is fringe.
It's wingnuts like Bono who, horror of horrors, talks about things like feeding the poor and fighting AIDS in Africa. What a kook.
Posted - 2/12/2013 11:12:23 AM | show profile | flag this post
Jobs, jobs, jobs...
That's got to take precedent.
But immigration, gun violence, sequestration and all the other hot topics where a majority of Americans who already support his position will also get lots of play.
He needs to leverage those issues into pushing any economic agenda.
As far as the Nuge...I'd echo the right-wing battle cry of "Shut and play" -- except I'm afraid he would. And his music sucks.
Posted - 2/12/2013 1:36:39 PM | show profile | flag this post
A great American...
Via gawker ... how gun lovin Patriot Nuge avoided the draft:
He literally shit himself.
Great role model.
From a 1977 High Times interview dug up by Dangerous Minds
"I got my physical notice 30 days prior to. Well, on that day I ceased cleansing my body. No more brushing my teeth, no more washing my hair, no baths, no soap, no water. Thirty days of debris build. I stopped shavin' and I was 18, had a little scraggly beard, really looked like a hippie. I had long hair, and it started gettin' kinky, matted up. Then two weeks before, I stopped eating any food with nutritional value. I just had chips, Pepsi, beer-stuff I never touched-buttered poop, little jars of Polish sausages, and I'd drink the syrup, I was this side of death, Then a week before, I stopped going to the bathroom. I did it in my pants. poop, piss the whole shot. My pants got crusted up.
So I went in, and those guys in uniform couldn't believe the smell. They were ridiculin' me and pushin' me around and I was cryin', but all the time I was laughin' to myself. When they stuck the needle in my arm for the blood test I passed out, and when I came to they were kicking me into the wall. Then they made everybody take off their pants, and I did, and this sergeant says, "Oh my God, put those back on! You fucking swine you!" Then they had a urine test and I couldn't piss, But my poop was just like ooze, man, so I poop in the cup and put it on the counter. I had poop on my hand and my arm. The guy almost puked. I was so proud. I knew I had these chumps beat. The last thing I remember was wakin' up in the ear test booth and they were sweepin' up. So I went home and cleaned up.
But you know the funny thing about it? I'd make an incredible army man. I'd be a colonel before you knew what hit you, and I'd have the baddest bunch of motherfuckin' killers you'd ever seen in my platoon. But I just wasn't into it."
Posted - 2/12/2013 2:09:03 PM | show profile | flag this post
nobody ever accused ted nugent of being sane..
and he isn't, as he proves daily, every time he opens his mouth..
that said..he is one helluva a guitar player..
shut up and play, ted..
Posted - 2/12/2013 2:27:11 PM | show profile | flag this post
Giving the 'Rebuttal' to the SOTU is one of the hardest gigs there is. Especially when most Americans back what the President just said.
There are reports he's going to annuonce a major troop pullout of Afghanistan, which most Americans agree with. Then there is what Zakaria points out in TIME this week;
"Thumping majorities of Americans support immigration reform. Some 72% say undocumented workers should be given green cards or citizenship. A similar percentage wants to give more visas to high-technology workers. A solid majority opposes the sequestration cuts. On gun control, large majorities favor some commonsense controls: 85% of Americans support universal background checks; 80% support preventing those with mental illnesses from buying guns; 58% and 55%, respectively, would ban semiautomatic and assault-style weapons. Interestingly, even on energy policy, large majorities want more action. Seven out of 10 favor higher emissions and pollution standards; 69% want more funding for wind and solar energy."
Faced with numbers like that, it's hard to stand there and give a speech saying Americans don't agree with anything the President just said. Especially since the guy just won re-election pretty easily. Good luck Marco.
Posted - 2/13/2013 11:27:50 AM | show profile | flag this post
Nugent shooting his mouth off at the SOTU
"He probably has shit for brains. I couldn't be more proud of myself, what I stand for, and for this pompous ass to claim that he cares more about a family that lost a child than I do is a perfect example of the brain dead critics of Ted Nugent."
-- Ted Nugent, quoted by Politico, when Rep. Jim Langevin (D-RI) questioned Nugent's presence at the State of the Union.
Langevin is in a wheelchair and paralyzed from a shooting accident when he was a teenager.
Posted - 2/13/2013 11:47:58 AM | show profile | flag this post
yawn. nugent is right in defending himself.
obama offers nothing but tired, failed, liberal polices.
the worst recovery in american history continues.
Posted - 2/13/2013 1:13:45 PM | show profile | flag this post
Vietnam is over...you can take a bath now.
Posted - 2/13/2013 1:16:34 PM | show profile | flag this post
Con...are you serious?
Stock market back up over 14,000...after dropping to 7,000 with Bush. What liberal policies are you talking about? The ones Obama wanted but were stonewalled by repubs? Their answer to everything is more tax breaks for the wealthy and no government regulation, the very policies that crashed the economy in the first place. The recovery is slow because of the size of the meltdown. If repubs were still in charge of the show I can only imagine how bad things would be now.
Posted - 2/13/2013 2:33:18 PM | show profile | flag this post
Your hero, Nugent, was insulting a guy in a wheelchair, paralyzed from a shooting accident when he was a teenager.
He was not "defending himself."
Nugent's a pretty brave guy -- as long as he's fighting a quadriplegic.
Posted - 2/13/2013 3:54:13 PM | show profile | flag this post
Defending Ted Nugent's behavior
is about the second dumbest thing con has said in the past day or so.
Reating the bs canard re: "the worst recovery in american history continues." is still dumber. It's the worst recovery SINCE the Great Depression (Forbes [and countless others]) Why is that part left out all the time?? So if the Bush Recession is the worst recession since then, why wouldn't this be the hardest recovery since the last recession? duh?
It's like blaming FDR for having the worst World War since the last World War. Any economic growth, including the Markets, and employment, is still better than econmic decline, market loss, and massive job loss. Second duh?
Posted - 2/13/2013 4:04:31 PM | show profile | flag this post
And an interesting point
Besides announcing a timetable for leaving Afghanistan (STILL not soon enough for me, but at least we have a plan)
This was first time since Bush invaded a decade ago that no president has mentioned IRAQ in a SOTU. We're still paying for it of course, but I thought it was a major accomplishment that we don't have to re-argue it after a State of the Union.
Posted - 2/14/2013 9:03:16 AM | show profile | flag this post
etaoin shrdlu, nugent was responding to a attack.
the left can dish but sure has hell can't it when the favor is returned.
Posted - 2/14/2013 9:19:15 AM | show profile | flag this post
Hate to break it to ya MP..
... but Iraq isn't a great accomplishment.
Its government is Shia, essentially a client state of Iran (and busting the embargo), politically fighting with the Kurds in Northen Iraq that threaten oil output.
As for the "terrorists" (which was, and is, never a threat to the US) .. well they set off bombs every few day, killing dozens at a time .. part of the simmering sunni/shia civil war.
you wont find a lot of Iraqis, after suffering 100k deaths in the war, thanking America.
That is the reason it isn't mentioned. no objective analysis would call it a success (find any WMD?), and no politician is going to call it a failure.
Posted - 2/14/2013 9:24:52 AM | show profile | flag this post
It wasn't an "attack," con...
Rep. Jim Langevin merely questioned the whether it was appropriate for Nugent -- a man who's been investigated by the Secret Service for threatening the life of the President -- to be at the STOU.
Nugent didn't respond -- he attacked a man in a wheelchair.
As I said, your hero, con, isn't afraid of a fight...as long as the person he's fighting is paralyzed from the neck down.
Big man, huh?
Posted - 2/14/2013 9:48:11 AM | show profile | flag this post
cdn; I respectfully disagree
"... but Iraq isn't a great accomplishment" Yes it was. Anytime you get OUT of a war--especially one so costly in both lives and money--Yea. That's good news.
Even though the 'withdrawl' plans were set in motion by the Bush Admin, the Obama Admin carried them out quite well. Yes, of course the country is still a chaotic mess--but that's hardly Obama's fault. Now--if we can only get out of Afghan as cleanly as possible, that would be another great accomplishment. It will save more American lives, not to mention billions upon billions of dollars.