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newscred	Posted - 9/23/2012 7:44:42 PM \| show profile \| flag this post A recent study says democrats are more likely to believe whats presented by local and national news media than non democrats. Didn't need a study to tell us the obvious. Most newsrooms are democrat and as such, during election cycles, skew the content of the shows toward pro democrat agenda items. If you're fed material that supports your own ideology, of course you'll be more likely to believe those putting it on the air. It's sad to see what's happened to a profession that once had strong values, which kept personal opinion from influencing show content. This is obviously my personal opinion. But I believe It's accurate based on the newsrooms I've worked and the changes in personal ethics I've seen over the past 10-12 years.

Grateful Deadline	Posted - 9/23/2012 9:42:38 PM \| show profile \| flag this post * Most newsrooms are democrat * Did you know that nobody makes editorial employees declare a political affiliation before employing them? That nobody tells them they must register and vote for any political party? That newsroom codes of ethics prohibit them from participating in political activities? The news media's political stances appear on the editorial page, not in the news pages? That "most newsrooms ... skew the content ... toward pro democrat agenda items" is a statement of indoctrination. May I suggest that you regularly visit the front page and the editorial page of the Los Angeles Times? The paper is online in its print format. The Wall Street Journal's opinion page would be a good stop, too. What sad is that we stopped teaching students the opinion appears on the opinion page. Now they've grown up to be adults who aren't news literate. FWIW, I can't address broadcast, as it is not my branch of news media, but I hear the same horse-pucky about print. Consider that when your medium was created to be the voice of the voiceless and the watchdog of the privileged, it is highly unlikely you'll abdicate that role in order to stump for those who write off their dressage horses on their Form 1040s.

mpdodgson	Posted - 9/23/2012 10:15:18 PM \| show profile \| flag this post To quote the Philosopher; Pre-Med-Pre-Law Student "Otter" again-- "Gee you're dumb." "A recent study says..." Good grief. Either post it or not. what study?? "Most newsrooms are democrat and as such," Oh. You got proof of that? Does that include the WSJ and Fox?? "This is obviously my personal opinion." No shit Sherlock. "based on the newsrooms I've worked" But you've nerver even given us a friggin clue you've actually worked anywhere inside a newsroom. What function? What market(s)? What network affiliation? "personal ethics" Seriously?? I WOULD NEVER use the phrase "personal ethics" if I didn't have the balls to be a bit more specific. NOW--what was the point of your post?? If you want to hear that people like you (who listen to Fox) are dumber than the rest of us--I've got' em. IF IF you want to hear about the brand new Pew Polls that show Romney voters aren't too keen on thier candidate--but hate the other guy--They're out there. Just another non-newzie trolling a "Board" that has nothing to do with them, trying to get a reaction. Well, you got one. Gee youre dumb.

cruiser	Posted - 9/24/2012 11:27:27 AM \| show profile \| flag this post Newscred is correct Most newsrooms ARE liberal...and their products reflect that. If you newsies here don't recognize that it's because they echo your viewpoints...and your psyches won't permit you to think of yourselves as anything but the mainstream/middle-of-the-road. That's just how the subconscious works.

Grateful Deadline	Posted - 9/24/2012 11:34:36 AM \| show profile \| flag this post If only you were news literate.

Grateful Deadline	Posted - 9/24/2012 11:37:33 AM \| show profile \| flag this post But then you'd have to dig up an whole new group of people to pick fights with. I'm betting that Newscred's newsroom role is not reporter, producer, editor or videographer, and that he/she is not in a major market.

cruiser	Posted - 9/24/2012 11:57:47 AM \| show profile \| flag this post Dearie I'm more news literate than you could possibly imagine. And in my position I see firsthand the biases exhibited by media outlets...and I'm not talking just about the alphabet networks or major dailies. The bias is, perhaps, even more prevalent in local news operations.

anonymous 1	Posted - 9/24/2012 12:31:50 PM \| show profile \| flag this post With liberal bias in the media at a all time high, democrats will watch what reinforces their beliefs. CBS Doesn’t Air Portion Of Obama Interview Where He Admits Some Of His Campaign Ads Go ‘Overboard’ http://www.mediaite.com/tv/cbs-doesnt-air-portion-of-obama-interview-where-he-admits-some-of-his-campaign-ads-go-overboard/

beenthere	Posted - 9/24/2012 12:55:44 PM \| show profile \| flag this post Perhaps this misconception is skewed by the fact that Democrats are more likely to support education, as well as be educated themselves. For example: States that voted for Kerry in 2004 had 21 percent more college graduates than states that voted for Bush. The states that ranked the lowest for high school and college graduates were all red states. Eight out of 10 of the states that ranked the highest for high school college graduates were blue states. (The number one state, by far, is Colorado — technically a red state because it went for Bush by a small margin, but effectively a “purple” state because it’s become so politically mixed.) http://www.eduinreview.com/blog/2008/09/are-democrats-more-educated-than-republicans/ AND The more college graduates, the more Democratic (and especially more liberal) the state. The fewer college graduates, the more Republican and (and especially more conservative) the state. Anyway, take that for what it is worth. The charts essentially tell you what you already knew: liberal states like New York and Massachusetts invest more in educating their kids. Conservative states like Kansas and Texas spend less on it, and consequently have fewer people with bachelor's degrees. http://articles.businessinsider.com/2012-05-07/politics/31606101_1_college-graduates-democrats-increases-chart ____ News jobs REQUIRE an education. Perhaps the fact that those jobs are filled with EDUCATED people is your REAL complaint.

cruiser	Posted - 9/24/2012 1:44:14 PM \| show profile \| flag this post This is what left wingers do The try to elevate their own self images by demeaning everyone else. Pathetic.

beenthere	Posted - 9/24/2012 2:13:16 PM \| show profile \| flag this post There is no elevation of status. These are facts. They have no bias or emotion. Those with more education and who support education tend to be Democrats. Again: FACTS.

cruiser	Posted - 9/24/2012 2:38:22 PM \| show profile \| flag this post *That's pure bullsht** I will grant you that college educated teachers and college professors tend to be Democrats but there are vast numbers of the uneducated who are Democrats. By contrast, business executives, senior and nid-level management, professionals and many, many self-employed are college graduates. It is true that the uneducated in the southern states tend to be Republicans but they comprise only a handful of the fifty states. Uneducated Democrats are everywhere...the Rust Belt, the Great Plains, the Southwest, the West Coast, etc., even in the Midwest, the Eastern Seaboard and the Northeast.

beenthere	Posted - 9/24/2012 2:56:11 PM \| show profile \| flag this post Facts are facts. Kids get a better education in blue states then red states. Democrat voters as a whole have more education than Republican voters. Unbiased numbers. Facts. I know, they can be tough to choke down when you are busy cursing out other posters.

cruiser	Posted - 9/24/2012 6:30:06 PM \| show profile \| flag this post "Democrat voters as a whole have more education than Republican voters" That's pure, unadulterated bullsh*t. Tell me all about the educations of the Democrat constituencies...blue collar workers, farm workers, factory workers, tradespeople. low-level hospitality workers, low-level government workers, food service, transportation and delivery, low-level retail, low-level utilities workers, most service industries workers...these are are a few of the biggest examples. Are they all highly educated? Not even close. And there are MILLIONS more of them than you might be willing to acknowledge.

cruiser	Posted - 9/24/2012 6:37:33 PM \| show profile \| flag this post And I didn't even include the chronically unemployed.

beenthere	Posted - 9/24/2012 8:08:24 PM \| show profile \| flag this post Here you go: States that voted for Kerry in 2004 had 21 percent more college graduates than states that voted for Bush. The states that ranked the lowest for high school and college graduates were all red states. Eight out of 10 of the states that ranked the highest for high school college graduates were blue states. (The number one state, by far, is Colorado — technically a red state because it went for Bush by a small margin, but effectively a “purple” state because it’s become so politically mixed.) http://www.eduinreview.com/blog/2008/09/are-democrats-more-educated-than-republicans/ AND The more college graduates, the more Democratic (and especially more liberal) the state. The fewer college graduates, the more Republican and (and especially more conservative) the state. Anyway, take that for what it is worth. The charts essentially tell you what you already knew: liberal states like New York and Massachusetts invest more in educating their kids. Conservative states like Kansas and Texas spend less on it, and consequently have fewer people with bachelor's degrees. http://articles.businessinsider.com/2012-05-07/politics/31606101_1_college-graduates-democrats-increases-chart

cruiser	Posted - 9/24/2012 8:47:10 PM \| show profile \| flag this post I've seen "studies" like this before and they turn out to be...ahh, not exactly accurate. This is a liberal urban legend that's been around for some time. However, the ONLY categories in which it proves to be true is for people with NO high school diplomas and people with post-graduate degrees. For every other demographic, Republicans are the majority. And most of the liberal post-graduate degrees are in education and social sciences...where, frankly, I'd expect to find them. Professionals and highly educated business people are split between the parties.

mpdodgson	Posted - 9/24/2012 9:16:07 PM \| show profile \| flag this post What the hell was the point here? "A recent study says"...democrats tend to vote democrat?? without a source no less? "Most newsrooms are democrat and as such," without a source no less? "Most newsrooms ARE liberal...and their products reflect that." Isn't there any producer/editor out there who will back me up on this??? IT'S crap. Hell, most of my time was devoted to fires/accidents/shootings/chemical leaks/all that stuff that had NOTHING to do with politics. My two Emmys were for the Cuban Boat Lift, and a hostage crisis. I also got nominated for the wildfires and a hurricane coverage. I mean Jeez--I sure as heck tried to slathat hurricane as Republican..... THERE IS NO librul media bias....anymore than there is a wingnut media bias. It's a myth. Everyone knows it's a myth--especially the right wing radio producers (who are number 1 in the ratings) and the dudes at FOX--who dominate the cable channels). Ya got something concrete?? Show me. Ohhhhhhhhhhh that's right...sources and facts are so verbotim. Oh...yea, and I don't see Ann Coulter and/or McCain and/or Brooks and/or Noonan and/or Rance Priebus and/or Lynn Cheney and/or Lindsey Graham on all the "alphabet network" sunday morning shows. Cut me a break. You have no clue what I'm talking about because you've never actually worked in a newsroom. The people here who have, they know, and we're all shaking our heads at you. Go. Away.

VTexan	Posted - 9/24/2012 9:26:45 PM \| show profile \| flag this post I've said it here before The main bias newsrooms have is towards money. The news director--the guy or gal who calls the shots--reports to the station manager who reports to those who run the group. They react mighty well to money made, and mighty poorly to money lost. If this is news to you then you're 18 or utterly stupid (oft times those two items overlap, though by no means always). The other main bias they have is toward scandal. They've proven it when Mitt recently said scandalous things, but they proved it for almost 2 years with the Bill Clinton scandal. A liberal media would NOT give that story the legs it used to run round this ol' world a few dozen times.

cruiser	Posted - 9/24/2012 10:09:10 PM \| show profile \| flag this post I won't continue this I've already said far more than I should have.

Grateful Deadline	Posted - 9/25/2012 12:45:47 AM \| show profile \| flag this post I'll drink to that!

cruiser	Posted - 9/25/2012 11:56:43 AM \| show profile \| flag this post "What function? What market(s)? What network affiliation?" What business is that of yours??? This is, after all, an anonymous message board...except for the few (you) who voluntarily post their identities. If the OP says he/she worked in newsrooms for 10-12 years, who are you...any of you...to disagree?

anonymous 1	Posted - 9/25/2012 12:05:39 PM \| show profile \| flag this post "A liberal media would NOT give that story the legs" How long did the liberal media sit on the story before Drudge forced the media's hand? Then there's Rick Kaplan. Yeah, that liberal media thang is just a myth.

VTexan	Posted - 9/25/2012 12:46:08 PM \| show profile \| flag this post Drudge ...forces nothing. Media can elect to run, or not to run things. They elect to run that which will sell papers, that which will cause people to watch, that which will cause people to talk and generate buzz, and thereby money. It's amazing how you folks are all FREE MARKET DICTATES ALL! Then suddenly you're LIBERAL MEDIA CONTROLS EVERYTHING! As if the liberals are so all-powerful that they contradict the world of business. Hello? Common sense anyone?

Grateful Deadline	Posted - 9/26/2012 12:06:06 AM \| show profile \| flag this post * If the OP says he/she worked in newsrooms for 10-12 years, who are you...any of you...to disagree? * He/she comes off as being too naive to have been a reporter/producer/videographer -- in other words, to have been someone who does news. If he/she actually works in a newsroom in some other capacity, then he/she hasn't absorbed very much about the business. Who am I to be forced to read someone like that?