| Author |
Message |
|
| cruiser |
Posted - 8/5/2012 12:35:08 PM | show profile | flag this post
Rejecting the choice of Tennessee's voters, the Democrat party said the candidate "is associated with a known hate group in Washington, D.C., and the Tennessee Democratic Party disavows his candidacy, will not do anything to promote or support him in any way."
I thought a guiding principle of the Democrat party was to "let every vote count." (And that seems to apply to those they manufacture when their candidate is losing)
I guess the message of the Democrats is that if you do not follow THEIR RADICAL AGENDA, you're on your own...to hell with what the voters want.
http://www.tennessean.com/article/20120803/NEWS02/308030124/Senate-nominee-Mark-Clayton-disavowed-by-Tennessee-Democratic-Party-?odyssey=nav%7Chead
|
|
| Grateful Deadline |
Posted - 8/5/2012 12:43:30 PM | show profile | flag this post
The Republicans have done the same here in California with Assembly candidates who belong to hate groups. Tim Donnelly, that darling of "The Daily Show," is a case in point; the party doesn't want to touch him.
I see that Mark Clayton's situation is similar to the way Donnelly got nominated: The primary vote was split among a half-dozen contenders, and he slipped in.
This isn't an East or West thing, nor a Democrat or Republican thing. It is a phenomenon of having overcrowded primary slates that allow bad candidates to wind up on the ballot that their declared political party cannot in good conscience support.
|
|
| cruiser |
Posted - 8/5/2012 1:24:14 PM | show profile | flag this post
It's not up to a party to have a conscience
The voters decide...and in this case, they did.
|
|
| mpdodgson |
Posted - 8/5/2012 2:16:47 PM | show profile | flag this post
Can I point out...
This sudden obsession with what the voters want?? When did that happen???
"Rejecting the choice of Tennessee's voters" "I thought a guiding principle of the Democrat party was to "let every vote count." "to hell with what the voters want." and "The voters decide...and in this case, they did." (all cruise)
Amen. The voters overwhelmingly voted for Obama over McCain--and you are disgusted by that. Must have been Chicago thug politics and voter fraud.
The voters are overwhelmingly in favor of COMPROMISE in Congress. But Boehner, McConnell, Cantor, and YOU are all against that.
The majority of voters are also in favor of small tax increases on the rich. But the GOP deosn't want to listen to the voters. They instaed bow down to an un-elected demagogue named Grover. (Mitt admirable refused to sign that stupid pledge when he was running for Governor, but Mitt being Mitt, well, that was then and this is now)
Health Care reform was passed by (the voters elected Representatives) both houses of Congress, signed by the elected president, and approved by the Supreme Court. What does Congress do? Bow to the will of the voters? Nope. let's ignore passing jobs bills--let's take up time by needlessly trying another vote to repeal ACA. Over thirty times.
"The voters decide...and in this case, they did." Yea. Right. Why doesn't the GOP put that into practice?
|
|
| Grateful Deadline |
Posted - 8/5/2012 3:13:03 PM | show profile | flag this post
** It's not up to a party to have a conscience **
Oh, really?
And a party platform is what?
|
|
| Grateful Deadline |
Posted - 8/5/2012 3:21:12 PM | show profile | flag this post
See, the thing is, if a rotten candidate squeaks in when the pie is so divided, that candidate is the choice of his own little lunatic fringe -- not of his party.
If the party wanted to damage itself by throwing itself behind a fringe candidate, it would be exceedingly stupid. Damage is quick to happen and slow to repair.
I think the Republican Party in California has been right in not going rah-rah for Donnelly, for instance. In Sacramento, he's virtually a pariah. The GOP would be stupid to have its image wrapped up in his. Better that he campaign as a lunatic Minuteman who wants to deport a third of his constituency because their ancestry isn't Western European.
|
|
| cruiser |
Posted - 8/5/2012 3:51:05 PM | show profile | flag this post
You can try as hard as you want
to change the focus of my thread but the FACT is the Tennessee Democrat party is NOT backing the candidate picked by Tennessee Democrat voters.
|
|
| cruster |
Posted - 8/5/2012 4:20:04 PM | show profile | flag this post
It's the End
Global cooling.
Gay marriage.
Something in Tennessee.
Truly the time for old man posing as journalists on message boards is coming to an end.
|
|
| mpdodgson |
Posted - 8/5/2012 4:36:07 PM | show profile | flag this post
SO WHAT?!?!
"...the focus of my thread but the FACT is the Tennessee Democrat party is NOT backing the candidate picked by Tennessee Democrat voters."
SO THE F WHAT?!?!?!
The guys a nutjob. From your cite: "Less than 24 hours after a man espousing conservative and libertarian views surprised the state’s political scene by winning the Democratic nomination, the Tennessee Democratic Party disavowed him, saying he’s part of an anti-gay hate group.
The party said Friday that it would do nothing to help Mark Clayton, 35, who received nearly twice as many votes as his closest challenger in Thursday’s seven-candidate primary, winning the right to challenge Republican U.S. Sen. Bob Corker in November.
"The only time that Clayton has voted in a Democratic primary was when he was voting for himself,” the party said in a news release."
------
If I was an official in the Party, I wouldn't back him either. Nobody ever says either official Party organization has to work for or endorse some idiot who won a primary. The Teabaggers (and especially Palin) backed many many non-GOP endorse candidates. Do you have a problem with that as well?? hell, David Duke was a Republican, doesn't mean the local GOP wants him to run for anything. AND I've already told you what I think about the GOP "listening to the voters"....
You desperately tried to make an anti-Democrat point and failed miserably. Just proves again you are so totally clueless about politics, but in your mind, you know all.
|
|
| cruiser |
Posted - 8/5/2012 4:51:41 PM | show profile | flag this post
"that candidate is the choice of
his own little lunatic fringe"
Well, HIS lunatic fringe must have been bigger than every other candidate's lunatic fringe. Obviously it was bigger than that of "mainstream" Democrat candidate. Therefore, he IS the choice of Tennessee Democrats.
|
|
| orthicon |
Posted - 8/5/2012 6:29:27 PM | show profile | flag this post
it appears he won the primary because..
of two factors..
1- no one really knew ANY of the candidates..
2- tennessee uses alphabetical as their standard for the ballot..guess who had ballot position number 1?..
yep..
|
|
| cruiser |
Posted - 8/5/2012 7:48:35 PM | show profile | flag this post
Whatever excuse you loons come up with
won't change the FACTS. This individual IS the Democrat candidate and no amount of temper trantrums and hissy fits will change that. This just shows the intolerance of left wingers.
|
|
| etaoin shrdlu |
Posted - 8/6/2012 10:10:13 AM | show profile | flag this post
Tough, cruzo...
but your fantasy is NOT how the major political parties work.
Any political party can disavow a candidate who fails to adhere to the party's platform.
This guy is a fake Democrat who's trying to defame the party. The Democratic (not "Democrat" Party) is within it's rights to refuse to support him.
|
|
| cruiser |
Posted - 8/6/2012 10:15:08 AM | show profile | flag this post
"Any political party can disavow a candidate"
Without question, they CAN but it shows the intolerance and narrow-mindedness of Democrats to reject the choice of the voters.
|
|
| bitter gun owner clinging to my religion |
Posted - 8/6/2012 12:07:27 PM | show profile | flag this post
cruiser
Without question, they CAN but it shows the intolerance and narrow-mindedness of Democrats to reject the choice of the voters.
Well....We are talking about Democrats. The Democrat party has a long sad history.
|
|
| etaoin shrdlu |
Posted - 8/6/2012 1:29:42 PM | show profile | flag this post
Hardly, cruzo...
would you accuse the GOP of ignoring the voters' wishes if a white supremist won the Republican Primary and the GOP refused to back him?
I've seen that happen before.
Party primaries are not general elections.
They are selection processes -- devised by the party for party members -- that allow the party to place a candidate on the ballot for ALL voters.
You really should learn some basic civics lessons before showing your ignorance on this topic.
|
|
| etaoin shrdlu |
Posted - 8/21/2012 8:56:06 AM | show profile | flag this post
Just rubbing this in cruzo's face...
considering that the Republican establishment is demanding that Rep. Todd Akin (R-MO) step down as the GOP Senate nominee in Missouri.
Seems the Republican Party wants the guy who won the Republican Primary to get out of the race and let the party bosses choose his replacement.
To them, it's more important that they win the Senate majority at any cost than to respect the votes of TEA Party members who chose Akin to be the Republican nominee.
Guess that's just how the Republican Party operates!
|
|
| cdnreprtr |
Posted - 8/21/2012 9:04:04 AM | show profile | flag this post
p0wned.
.
.
.
Bwahahahahahahahahahaha!
|
|
| etaoin shrdlu |
Posted - 8/21/2012 1:18:14 PM | show profile | flag this post
Of course cruzo...
would rather not talk about this.
We'll see if Akin drops out by 5 pm CDT.
|
|
| orthicon |
Posted - 8/21/2012 1:40:06 PM | show profile | flag this post
i don't think he will..i think he'll stay in it.. because..
if he doesn't win this one, he's unemployed..he gave up his house seat to run..
and at the end of the day, what does he owe the republican party now?..
the party has cut him off at the knees, as it should have..so what choice does he have?..might as well go for it all..he can go down in flames and become a martyr for the rightwingnut fringe of the party..
maybe he can get a job as associate pastor of the westboro baptist church..he sure sounds like their kind of people..
|
|
| cruiser |
Posted - 8/21/2012 1:42:08 PM | show profile | flag this post
You left wingers
misconstrued...probably deliberately...Akin's "legitimate rape" comment. He did NOT mean in any way that an act of rape could ever be legitimate. What he was trying to convey...and I will acknowledge that he did so awkwardly...was an act that could be LEGITIMATELY DEFINED as rape.
Listen to it again without your radical left wing filters. You'll quickly discover your error.
I think this points up the need for remedial language comprehension training for the so-called "journalists" on here.
|
|
| etaoin shrdlu |
Posted - 8/21/2012 1:58:05 PM | show profile | flag this post
But cruzo...
what did he mean by saying a woman could magically prevent herself from getting pregnant during rape?
How is that supposed to work?
And back on topic -- do you agree with the Republican establishment that Akin should step down?
|
|
| cruiser |
Posted - 8/21/2012 2:36:34 PM | show profile | flag this post
Trying to change the subject...again
because he got caught in an act of gross stupidity...again.
|
|
| etaoin shrdlu |
Posted - 8/21/2012 2:40:53 PM | show profile | flag this post
No, cruzo...
look at the lead thread in THIS thread.
It's YOU, criticizing the Democratic Party for failing to support a racist, white supremist.
I brought it back up for you to defend YOUR party -- the Republicans -- for demanding that Todd Akin, the duly elected GOP Primary winner -- to step aside for the good of the Republican Party.
YOU, cruzo, are the one who tried to change the subject.
And I'm not surprised since your original post here has blown up in your face.
I'm sure our "casual readers" are getting a bang out of how embarrassed you have to be over that!
|
|
| cruiser |
Posted - 8/21/2012 7:31:57 PM | show profile | flag this post
Do you think
everyone on here is as stupid as you are? Everyone can see right through your little scheme...changing the subject because you didn't like where the thread was going.
|
|
Log in to customize alerts, subscribe to newsletters, and apply to jobs.
June 4, 2013 | San Francisco
