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Tenth Anniversary of the Iraq War
Posted - 3/19/2013 9:47:02 AM | show profile | flag this post
Not a lot to celebrate.
Couple of facts that've popped up lately:
"British and U.S. intelligence agencies 'were informed by top sources months before the invasion that Iraq had no active WMD programme, and that the information was not passed to subsequent inquiries,' according to the Guardian."
"While 52% of Americans said they at least know someone who served in combat in Iraq, 44% reported no personal connection at all to those who did the fighting and dying there."
Posted - 3/19/2013 1:32:24 PM | show profile | flag this post
The biggest mistake in U.S. history...
A war based on a lie, just so Bush could pick up some "political capital". Well, how did that work out, W? Trillions of dollars, thousands of dead soldiers, hundreds of thousands of dead Iraqis, billions of dollars unaccounted for. What a great presidency that was. And to think that if we didn't have such a crooked Supreme Court he wouldn't have been president in the first place. Sigh...
Posted - 3/19/2013 2:10:16 PM | show profile | flag this post
Seems like just yesterday
"Simply stated, there is no doubt that the regime of Saddam Hussein possesses weapons of mass destruction."
---Dick Cheney, 9/8/02
"Facing clear evidence of peril, we cannot wait for the final proof---the smoking gun that could come in the form of a mushroom cloud."
---George W. Bush, 10/7/02
"We will win this conflict. We will win it easily."
---John McCain, 1/22/03
My colleagues, every statement I make today is backed up by sources, solid sources. These are not assertions. What we're giving you are facts and conclusions based on solid intelligence."
---Colin Powell & his vial of baby powder at the UN, 2/5/03
"The only people who think this wasn't a victory are Upper Westside liberals."
---Charles Krauthammer, 4/19/03
TED KOPPEL: [Y]ou’re not suggesting that the rebuilding of Iraq is going to be done for $1.7 billion?
ANDREW NATSIOS [Agency for International Development]: Well, in terms of the American taxpayer's contribution, I do. This is it for the U.S.
[Liberals] can't deny that President Bush has won his two wars, and won them resoundingly.
---Paul Mirengoff at Powerline, 4/26/03
"The three-week swing through Iraq has utterly shattered skeptics' complaints."
---Tony Snow (later Bush's press secretary) on Fox News, 4/27/03
I DO have a personal connection with the war--and I will never ever forgive these people. They should be in jail.
Posted - 3/19/2013 2:21:18 PM | show profile | flag this post
seems like just yesterday..........
democrats were all for the iraq war.
Democrats before Iraq War started.
Democrats on Iraq's WMD
what about these people? they deserve jail time?
Posted - 3/19/2013 2:23:05 PM | show profile | flag this post
When you're lied to it's not your fault. It's the liars fault.
Posted - 3/19/2013 2:30:55 PM | show profile | flag this post
And the simple fact that anyone/everyone who dares ask a question of the government is either a conspiracy theorist or a terrorist.
This tactic has been very successful in shutting down the investigative process.
Posted - 3/19/2013 2:44:31 PM | show profile | flag this post
the drums of war started with the clinton administration.
kerry, biden, and many other democrats were all for clinton taking america to war with iraq.
odd that you would support some and call for others to be put in jail.
Posted - 3/19/2013 3:00:47 PM | show profile | flag this post
"drums of war"
Don't kill people. It's the actual "war" part that kills people.
I don't consider Sen McCain a war criminal because he always beats the drums. There are plenty of Congressmen who think we should militarily intervene in Syria too....They're entitled to their opinion, but Thank God they're not the Commander In Chief. They're not guilty of anything outside of bad rhetoric. Congressmen who are LIED to aren't guilty of war crimes either.
The Iraq Resolution or the Iraq War Resolution was enacted on October 16, 2002. Biden or Kerry (or Hillary or whomever) was not the President. Bush was. Stop tap-dancing around that.
Posted - 3/19/2013 3:38:15 PM | show profile | flag this post
It was the Bush administration...
that wanted the war.
It was the Bush administration that cherry picked the intel.
It was the Bush administration that sent the cherry picked intel to Congress upon which Democrats based their statements in 2002.
Now, if con is talking about statements made DURING the Clinton administration -- he should remember that Clinton handled Saddam much differently and more efficiently -- in terms of American troops and treasure.
Yes, Democrats warned of dangers from Saddam in the Clinton administration.
Those warnings and Saddam's actions led to Operation Desert Strike and Operation Desert Fox. These were the two largest bombing raids in world history.
In the after-action reports from the Iraq War, we learned that these two strikes were far more severe to Iraq than first thought -- they effectively destroyed Iraq's ability to make war and eliminated ALL of Iraq's WMD programs.
Oh, and no Americans died in combat in either strike.
Posted - 3/19/2013 4:31:18 PM | show profile | flag this post
None of this was a secret.
Hans Blix and the UN stated there was no conclusive evidence of WMD. The sites were secure. There was no intel of any resumed programme.
So, the cons smeared the UN.
Powell lied to the world. ( still waiting for him to come clean publicly about the Bush Admin, to match what is obvious from his actions in recent years.)
Remember that coalition of the willing? Micronesia. Estonia. Yep. Don't forget Poland!
The consequences of Americas actions are clear.
You're still paying the price .. Which, frankly, y'all deserve.
After all, the Iraqis suffered much more, not that your self absorbed nation cares. Don't expect thanks of flowers and freedom anytime soon.
Posted - 3/19/2013 10:48:15 PM | show profile | flag this post
the iraq war was the biggest american mistake since..
well, since vietnam..
those of us who were in 'nam could see this one coming..do you wonder why so many vietnam vets wanted nothing to do with the iraq war?
no mystery there..we'd already seen that movie..
Posted - 3/20/2013 12:37:36 AM | show profile | flag this post
By NO means
...did all liberals support the war. I spoke out against it every chance I could. I couldn't believe that the generation who had everything to learn from Viet Nam...didn't. I've come to think it's largely a testosterone and ego-driven endeavor.
"Others couldn't pull it off, but we're gonna. We're gonna win this war..."
That's not a scientific explanation, but it's the most sense I can make out of a senseless act of stupidity. I blame the Bush administration, but i also blame the American public every bit as much. They were indifferent or disengaged, or just to freaking stupid to be able to put 2 and 2 together and realize what a dumb thing it was to start yet another war on the other side of the globe.
Of special note to thank are the so-called conservatives, who had to forget nearly everything they knew about conservatism to fight a pre-emptive war.
And of course, the press, for not being as aggressive in demanding answers as they should have. It was clear that we were heading towards war, and asking tough follow-ups made reporters feel like they'd be viewed as unpatriotic. To them I say "where did you learn that was a concern in journalism school?"