Texas Messes with the 19th Amendment

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beenthere Posted - 10/24/2013 9:26:16 AM | show profile | flag this post


My team is better!
No, MY team is better!
NO, MY team is better!!
NO, MY team is BETTER!
NO, MY TEAM is BETTER!
NO, MY TEAM IS BETTER!!!

How's that infighting and score keeping working for everyone? Solving lots of problems? Improving the lives of Americans?
Course not, but hey, it's more fun to wear my team's jersey and keep score than look at the real issues. Keep the house divided, it's a great strategy to make sure no one actually solves anything.
Cause my team is BETTER!!!



etaoin shrdlu Posted - 10/24/2013 10:36:36 AM | show profile | flag this post

And the Texas Voter Suppression Law...

almost barred a District Judge from voting this week:

KIII News reports that 117th District Court Judge Sandra Watts was flagged for possible voter fraud because her driver’s license lists her maiden name as her middle name, while her voter registration form has her real middle name. This was the first time she has ever had a problem voting in 49 years.

http://www.kiiitv.com/story/23761660/voter-id-law-may-cause-problems-for-women-using-maiden-names



cruiser Posted - 10/24/2013 10:42:41 AM | show profile | flag this post

The very fact that you left wing "journalists"

are attacking me sends the unequivocal message that there might be something that Democrats are trying to hide.

It's an all-too-familiar ploy from the left wingers on here...shoot the messenger to keep the embarrassing message from becoming public knowledge.

etaoin shrdlu Posted - 10/24/2013 11:08:17 AM | show profile | flag this post

What are YOU trying to hide, cruzo?

I've given you links to the legislative history of the bill, showing that it was written, sponsored, and co-sponsored by the Texas GOP AND passed by the Republicans in both the House and Sentate with only ONE Democrat vote in the House.

It was pushed by Republican Governor Rick Perry, who signed it into law.

It was blocked by the Obama administration for years, until the Supreme Court -- by it's conservative majority -- struck down portions of the Voting Rights Act -- and Governor Rick Perry ordered it into effect immediately after this ruling.

I posted links showing the Democrats fought against this law for six years -- warning that it would disenfranchise people -- just as it appears to be doing. (See the reference to the District Judge accused of voter fraud under the law because her maiden name appears on her drivers license).

And you have nothing to rely on but some vague conspiracy theory you can't even articulate.

This isn't about you. But all our "casual readers" have to be stunned at your complete lack of facts to argue in favor of an insane conspiracy theory.


blackedtaped Posted - 10/24/2013 11:21:18 AM | show profile | flag this post

Here in backwoods North Carolina

I get a reminder card before every election. The card specifically asks if anything has changed since the last election; address, NAME, etc. I am then instructed to go to the Board of Elections to make the change(s) to my registration to reflect my current status. I am also required to keep the information on my driver's license current as well. So if I follow the rules then on election day my voter registration would match my photo ID. Perhaps Texas needs those kinds of requirements.

etaoin shrdlu Posted - 10/24/2013 11:23:18 AM | show profile | flag this post

In the case of the District Judge...

and roughly a third of other women in Texas, blacked, that wouldn't work.

Nothing had changed in 40 years for the Judge.

What HAD changed was the law -- and suddenly, her ID was no longer accepted.

This is a bad law, designed to suppress likely Democratic voters.

blackedtaped Posted - 10/24/2013 11:44:59 AM | show profile | flag this post

So etaoin

The fact is for forty years her voter registration was not correct. I would think a judge could recognize the difference and make the correction.

cruiser Posted - 10/24/2013 12:42:23 PM | show profile | flag this post

"This is a bad law, designed to suppress

likely Democratic voters"

ROFL! Are you kidding me??? Are you SERIOUSLY saying that ONLY Democrat women in Texas are married and have changed their surnames to those of their husbands?

Your rabid partisan...and egregiously illogical...posts have been a source of amusement to me since you sandbox people have been here but this one is WAY beyond the pale.

etaoin shrdlu Posted - 10/24/2013 2:18:31 PM | show profile | flag this post

You are REALLY clueless about politics....

aren't you, cruzo.

As a group, women tend to vote Democratic in larger numbers. Suppress their vote -- or the votes of minorities less likely to have the right kind of ID -- and you drive down Democratic votes.

We're still waiting for you to explain how this showpiece GOP legislation is a "Democratic Party conspiracy."

Can't do that, can you?

etaoin shrdlu Posted - 10/24/2013 3:07:41 PM | show profile | flag this post

No, blacked...

for forty years, her voter registration WAS correct.

The state had different standards for what it accepted as ID. For instance, common sense would dictate that women would change their names when getting married or divorced. Common sense would dictate that women may sometimes use their maiden name.

Some forms of ID would require a full name. Some would require the full name WITH the maiden name. Some forms may only require a middle initial.

The Texas law now requires everyone to have the exact same name on all forms of ID -- but doesn't create a process where that is easily accomplished.

For 40 years, she was presenting proper ID -- her signature. It had to match the signature on file with the voting registrar and the election official had to confirm that she signed the exact same signature as on the books.

Now, people can be disqualified for a technicality.

This is bad law.

blackedtaped Posted - 10/24/2013 6:11:14 PM | show profile | flag this post

Are you sure about that, etaoin

The Texas law requires the same exact name on all picture Id's? Or does the law require that whichever of the six acceptable forms of photo Id someone uses matches the name on the voter registration form?

VTexan Posted - 10/24/2013 9:42:11 PM | show profile | flag this post

Perhaps blacked

...you should speak to the Republicans in charge of things here in Texas. They're far more concerned with eliminating an in-person voter fraud problem that doesn't exist than in helping people exercise their Constitutional rights.

mpdodgson Posted - 10/24/2013 10:20:46 PM | show profile | flag this post

"Perhaps Texas needs those kinds of requirements"

(Courtesy blackedtape) Perhaps you're right. But why stop at Texas?? That's the part that mystifies me. What the hell is wrong with a national standard?? You turn 18, fill out a voter registration card (after showing the appropiate ID) and you're done. We do with that Social Security cards...why can't we do that with voting???

The reason we don't do that (IMO) is that would restrict certain 'Red States' from placing unfair burdens on people. A student photo ID is okay for buying booze at some places--but not neccesarily OK at a voting booth in SOME districts. You would think a friggin Military Photo ID would be okay--but it's not in certain districts. And (back to Texas) you would think a woman who has voted for a decade or two under her maiden name wouldn't have to jump thru hoops now--But they do.

'Voter fraud' IMO is a bullshit issue compared to what the proverbial 'they' should actually be focused on. (Seriously? 1 or 2 bad votes out of a half million in one state?? C'mon, would it kill you to focus your energy on an infra-structure bill instead??)

(Note to beenthere: "Solving lots of problems? Improving the lives of Americans?" Well thanks for the Obama endorsement I guess. Getting us OUTof two wars definitely improves the lives of Americans who were getting shot at and blown up...and that whole OBL thing...(Following thru on Bush Admin plans should be noted). And adding jobs instead of losing them, and a monstrous bump in the markets, and curbing the debt...Yea, all that adds up to "Improving the lives of Americans"

But if you want to wallow in your pessismism and 'the country is going to hell in a handbasket way of thinkig'...b my guest.

etaoin shrdlu Posted - 10/25/2013 9:23:47 AM | show profile | flag this post

The law, blacked....

requires that the name on the voting registration now match the photo ID -- but it's supposed to allow for common sense (contained in a vague phrase within the law). However, as we have no seen, it gives voting judges the latitude to block women from voting on a technicality.

In real life, we don't always use the same name on all forms of ID. For instance, if my credit card insisted that my photo ID match the name on the card exactly (as the Texas law requires now for voter registration) I wouldn't be able to use it.

Why?

Credit cards require NO MIDDLE NAME be allowed. Only a MIDDLE INITIAL.

But every photo ID I have REQUIRES the middle name be used.

The ID for voter registration has been, for nearly 50 years -- your signature and a printed version of the signature.

Not all people use their full name in their signature. Some people leave out their middle name, or a suffix like "Jr," "III," etc. Some people only use their middle initial.

This law has been designed to suppress votes of likely Democratic voters by making it difficult or impossible to vote. To accuse a woman of voter fraud for simply having a maiden name is simply insane.

etaoin shrdlu Posted - 10/30/2013 1:50:57 PM | show profile | flag this post

How bad IS this law?

So bad that the leading candidates for Governor of Texas -- both Democratic and Republican -- can't cast a simple vote without an affidavit!

The Republicans didn't want to allow the affidavit challenge -- but Democrat Wendy Davis pushed to get it into the bill.

Good thing for the GOP. Without it, their top candidate for Governor wouldn't be allowed to vote!

http://blog.mysanantonio.com/texas-politics/2013/10/greg-abbott-will-need-affidavit-to-vote/

newscred Posted - 10/31/2013 4:56:16 AM | show profile | flag this post

and your point is...

It's the 14th Amendment that needs to be revised.

etaoin shrdlu Posted - 10/31/2013 9:49:53 AM | show profile | flag this post

Hardly, newscred...

it's the Texas law that needs to be abolished.

It violates the 14th Amendment: "No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States;"

No need to change the 14th Amendment. Would you really want to take away the individual rights guaranteed in that one line I quoted from the 14th Amendment?

Quinntessential Posted - 10/31/2013 11:01:46 AM | show profile | flag this post

"It violates the 14th Amendment" Or is it "Texas Messes with the 19th Amendment"?

Which is it? i don't know.

What i do know? IT'S ALL BUSH'S FAULT!!!!!

TED CRUZ!!!!!! FOX NEWS!!!!!!

etaoin shrdlu Posted - 10/31/2013 12:18:24 PM | show profile | flag this post

It does both...crotch...

The 19th Amendment gave women the right to vote.

The 14th Amendment forbids states from taking away the rights of any American as guaranteed by the Constitution.

The Texas law is written in such a way as to make it more difficult for women to vote. In having to fill out an affidavit when others don't, it interferes with their rights under the 14th Amendment.

Again, the Texas Voter ID Law is just plain, bad law.

VTexan Posted - 11/3/2013 12:14:59 PM | show profile | flag this post

And now the former Speaker of the House

...Jim Wright. That's two well-known current candidates for Governor and the former Speaker of the House, all of whom needing to take unusual measures to be able to vote. I wonder what'll happen when Mr. & Mrs. John Q. Public try to vote.

http://fwst.vrvm.com/star/pm_30756/contentdetail.htm?contentguid=f0OAsZbS


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