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mpdodgson Posted - 12/29/2013 1:52:53 PM | show profile | flag this post

"Two-thirds of Americans in a CNN poll released Thursday said the current Congress was the worst one in their lifetimes. And it wasn't just one party or demographic who felt that way.

"That sentiment exists among all demographic and political subgroups. Men, women, rich, poor, young, old — all think this year's Congress has been the worst they can remember," CNN Polling Director Keating Holland said.

Three cheers for bipartisanship!

The 113th Congress passed only 66 laws in its first year, according to GovTrack. That was the lowest tally in four decades, or as far back as GovTrack has reliable data. Worse, only 58 of those bills became law, and many of them did nothing more than name post offices.

Meanwhile, many enormously popular bills fizzled. Nine in ten Americans supported tougher background checks for gun purchases, though Congress spiked gun control legislation. Two-thirds of Americans supported the Senate's bipartisan immigration bill, but the House refused to take it up this year."

http://theweek.com/article/index/254566/confirmed-this-is-the-worst-congress-ever

I would add that the most recent Repub f*ck up--refusing to extend Unemp Benefits [Merry Christmas!!] isn't all that popular either. A majority of Americans believe Congress should restore the federal unemployment insurance program that it allowed to expire in the recent budget deal, according to a new poll. Overall, 55 percent of Americans believe the Emergency Unemployment Compensation (EUC) program should be extended compared to 34 percent who say it should end, the Hart Research Associates poll found. Among women, 61 percent approve of the program and just 28 percent believe it should cease.

The findings reinforce a Public Policy Polling release from earlier this week which looked at specific House districts held by Republican members. That poll found over 60 percent support for extending EUC in five Republican districts including Speaker John Boehner’s southwestern Ohio seat.

EUC expired on Saturday. For 1.3 million current recipients who have been looking for work for longer than the 26 weeks for which most states will provide unemployment benefits, that meant their lifeline evaporated.

Now someone tell me again why they're confused that Congress approval rating has dipped into single digits, while Obama's is about 42%.

cruiser Posted - 12/29/2013 3:37:42 PM | show profile | flag this post

Nope

Obama's in in the high 30s and the congress is composed of BOTH Republicans AND Democrats. It also has two houses...one of which (controlled by Democrats) refused to take up any measure sent to it by the other. Oh, except for that sham budget, that is.

mpdodgson Posted - 12/29/2013 5:23:45 PM | show profile | flag this post

Not even a good try.

"Obama's in in the high 30s" Where? "Fred's Polls"?? Most reasonable people here use the RCP Average; which has Obama at 42.6. The only poll (out of 14) that has him below 40 is Quinnipiac at 38, and that was twenty days ago. Rasmussen (a Repub fav) has him at 48 as of Friday. Gee you're dumb.

"It also has two houses..." Thanks for the education. All the spending/budegt bills come from the House, maybe should read up on that. They're the ones that failed. Miserably this year. The other "controlled by Democrats"...was never controlled by anyone as long as that inane stupid 60 vote rule was in place. Maybe you should read up on that.

"Oh, except for that sham budget". You've been harping for years about 'no budget passed'. Well, they did it. Thanks to BOTH sensible Repubs and Dems. Which of course leaves theTeabaggers out of it. And you're still not happy. Imagine my shock.

Quinntessential Posted - 12/29/2013 6:32:35 PM | show profile | flag this post

Yet............

Republicans are expected to gain Congressional seats in 2014. Republicans also lead the generic ballot.

So this CNN poll means nothing.



mpdodgson Posted - 12/29/2013 9:58:55 PM | show profile | flag this post

Quint? Yet............

I agree/disagree.

The most quoted person this week on the subject(predictions) was Karl Rove. Well that says a lot. Boy are we screwed up when we rely on predictions from Karl Rove.

Be that as it may, I agree that "Republicans are expected to gain Congressional seats in 2014." Yea. A handful. A few in the House, maybe a couple in the Senate. Changes nothing there, and then you have to deal with the new filibuster system in the Senate--and oh yea--You still got that Dem guy in the WH for two more years. Embrace the suck.

"Republicans also lead the generic ballot." Boy, that's close. "Generic Congressional 43.4 to 43.1" Can't get more nitty-gritty than that.

"So this CNN poll means nothing" Of course it doesn't. To rational people. But to hard core addicted politico junkies like me (and others of course) it's a fix. Wait till the Congressional races really get started, then I'll really go nuts.



etaoin shrdlu Posted - 12/30/2013 9:05:43 AM | show profile | flag this post

Cruzo...

is clueless about polls -- regardless of the handle he's using at any given time (cruzo/quinn).

Another sign that they are one and the same -- the astonishing similarity in general ignorance over the ways polls work and the information that can be gained from reading them.

And while the polls may show most Americans don't like Obamacare -- many more would oppose cutting off insurance to millions of Americans. People are signing up for it, people who couldn't get insurance before are finally on health insurance.

Seriously, can you imagine a candidate running on the promise of denying health coverage to millions of Americans?

Obama and the Democrats are hurting from the roll-out over Obamacare -- not Obamacare itself. Improved signups will smooth that out in the months ahead. And remember -- we have a debt ceiling vote coming in the spring. If the TEA Party decides to hold the economy hostage again, the fates will quickly swing back around -- just as they have every time the TEA Party has tried to sabotage the economy.

Right now, voters are more dissatisfied with Congress as an institution -- and its inability to get anything done -- than they are with the two parties. The TEA Party, however, continues to act up, making the institution more dysfunctional, hurting the GOP in the long run.

At this point, there appears to be little chance of any shift in Congress in the 2014 election. Gerrymandered districts -- both GOP and Democratic -- dominate the landscape for the House, and Republicans are killing themselves with primary challenges in the Senate races -- playing into the hands of Democrats who may lose seats -- but not the majority.

And while Chris Christie is the GOP's only -- ONLY -- hope for winning the White House in 2016, the extreme right wing of the GOP will do whatever they can to derail him.

If the TEA Party succeeds in getting a far right winger as the GOP nominee, Hillary wins in an electoral landslide. If Christie holds on with the nomination, the TEA Party types may stay home enough to let Hillary coast to a closer victory.

Quinntessential Posted - 12/30/2013 10:13:23 AM | show profile | flag this post

AFTER OCT.1 EVERYONE WILL LOVE OBAMA(CARE)!!!!!!


"Obama and the Democrats are hurting from the roll-out over Obamacare -- not Obamacare itself."

Obama and the Democrats are hurting from the lies they told. They are hurting because the fear that the millions who are losing their coverage will vote against them in 2014.



cruiser Posted - 12/30/2013 11:20:16 AM | show profile | flag this post

The debacle known as the unaffordable care act...

otherwise called Obamacare...will be the biggest obstacle to Democrat victories in 2014 and 2016. The current media-manufactured attitude about congress will pale in comparison to the "hits" on the wallets of most Americans through rate hikes and HUGE increases in deductibles. Add to that the curtailment of coverage, the loss of current providers, etc....

etaoin shrdlu Posted - 12/30/2013 2:26:15 PM | show profile | flag this post

Again, cruzo...

how do you propose that Republicans run on the platform of stripping health insurance from one million Americans?

I just can't imagine how you sell that to voters.

mpdodgson Posted - 12/30/2013 2:59:48 PM | show profile | flag this post

You're speculating

And there's nothing wrong with that. But that's all it is.

"Obamacare...will be the biggest obstacle to Democrat victories in 2014..." You could very well be right. Depends on the audience. IF it's a room full of people who lost their 'crappy insurance' they will be ticked off. IF, on the other hand, it's a room full of people who now have affordable insurance for the first time in a long time...I pity the Repub Congressman who tries to stand up there and says he wants to take it away from you.

"...and 2016" Now there I think you're taking a quantum leap. Do I really really have to again bring up the fact that the POTUS ran--twice--on ObamaCare, and won--twice?? I can speculate too. I'm predicting when it comes down to Christie v. Clinton; 'ObamaCare' will be rarely mentioned--especially by Christie--because he will know he could never/would never, win by threatening millions of people [voters] with their new afforadable health care.

As far as your "The current media-manufactured attitude about congress" REALLY?? So all those polls are "media-manufactured"??? You have no problem in citing your precious Gallup about this thing and that if it's 'Anti-Obama'---but when they say Congress has a 9% approval, it's "media-manufactured". Gotcha.

cruster Posted - 12/30/2013 7:13:22 PM | show profile | flag this post

Oh the Desperadoes!

Cowboy Quinn! Brave cruiser! Your desperation is showing like a cheap harlot's petticoat working the night shift at the saloon!

Don't worry guys. The GOP will find a way to screw up the 2014 elections. I mean Romney Landslide, those guys are good at it.

And Obamacare, all those articles about how people are very happy with the coverage they're getting. Ugh. Water carrying liberal media, right guys? Ha ha ha! Egregious.

Look, your boy lost in 2012. Badly. You're angry, you're desperate, you're panicking, I get it. The Tea Party is going to attack in the primaries and the democrats will face off with a bunch of know nothing radical hardliners.

Ouch, I'd cry too!!

But try to at least look calm.

It's indubitably going to be a long year for you.



cruiser Posted - 12/30/2013 7:53:22 PM | show profile | flag this post

"Depends on the audience"

It most certainly does! You got that one right...but it wasn't hard.

The "audience" is roughly 313 million people, a maximum of about 12 million of whom were previously uninsured. That's a ratio of about 25:1.

So if there are about 301 million people pissed off that their premiums went up, their deductibles skyrocketed and their networks do not include familiar doctors and hospitals...especially the best hospitals...how do you think they're going to vote? And do you think a sample 1/25th their size is going to be able to overcome that?

Do the math.

mpdodgson Posted - 12/30/2013 9:15:02 PM | show profile | flag this post

Do the math?!?!?

Do the math?!!?!? Swee Jebus. And you're an expert at this too I assume??

Your "301 million people pissed off that their premiums went up, their deductibles skyrocketed and their networks do not include familiar doctors and hospitals..." HAS TO include all those millions under Medicare/Medicaid etc so they don't count. It HAS TO include all those millions who have gov insurance or active military or some other great locked in policy through work, so they don't count. It HAS TO include all those folks in prison, so they don't count. And It HAS TO include all those uder 18, or those kids still living at home under their parents policies, so they don't count.

So...according to the expert...my 83 yr old step father, in a near coma in a nursing home, and my neighbor across the street--the one in diapers--not to mention the guys on death row--they're all going to RISE UP on election day and seek vengeance on all those who voted for ObamaCare. Well by Gosh by Golly you're right. How are we ever going "to be able to overcome that?"

cruiser Posted - 12/30/2013 10:34:16 PM | show profile | flag this post

It's simple arithmetic, pal

and if you had anything on the ball you'd see that...and not need to resort to pedestrian sarcasm for your non-response.

Grateful Deadline Posted - 12/31/2013 8:46:46 AM | show profile | flag this post

So there! Nyah!!

mpdodgson Posted - 12/31/2013 9:19:50 AM | show profile | flag this post

"It's simple arithmetic, pal"

So is 2 plus 2 equals five.

You're starting off from an insanely wrong premise. "So if there are about 301 million people pissed off that their premiums went up..."

So, according to you...EVERY single person in the US has their own private insurance policy. From the newborn baby, to a 9yr old living at home, to an Admiral in the Sixth Fleet, to Charles Manson. Who knew.

Of course that's jaw dropping stupid, but it's the only way your "That's a ratio of about 25:1" works, so you're stuck with it.



cruiser Posted - 12/31/2013 11:13:25 AM | show profile | flag this post

And I stand by it

You're not offering anything different because you can't.

cruiser Posted - 12/31/2013 1:50:17 PM | show profile | flag this post

The Washington Times reports

that only Richard Nixon was lower in the polls in Year 5 of his presidency than Barack Obama.

From the article: "Mr. Obama’s job-approval ratings in most polls this month were 40 percent or lower."

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/dec/30/with-sagging-polls-barack-obama-follows-george-wbu/

In fact, Obama's downward spiral nearly mirrors that of his predecessor.

So what I said above was accurate. As always, my comments are fact-based while yours are wishful thinking.

etaoin shrdlu Posted - 1/2/2014 8:50:50 AM | show profile | flag this post

Once again...

cruzo shows he's unable to do simple math.

And his alternate screen name -- "Quinn" -- can't help him out, because Quinn has shown the exact same math issues.




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