"That government is best which governs least."

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cruiser Posted - 6/12/2013 6:04:35 PM | show profile | flag this post

A quote widely attributed to Thomas Jefferson.

But does that mean the leader of the government is free to skip the governing altogether and spend all of his time fund-raising?

Barack Obama is attending three more Democrat fund raisers today, one in Massachusetts and two in Florida.

It seems that's all he's been doing ever since he won a second term as (nominally) president. In fact, Obama went fund-raising in Las Vegas the morning after the consulate in Benghazi, Libya, was burned by terrorists and four Americans were killed.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/obama-attend-three-democratic-fundraisers-today_735120.html

mpdodgson Posted - 6/12/2013 7:23:54 PM | show profile | flag this post

Really? Seriously??

We're going down that road again??

"free to skip the governing ALTOGETHER???"

"spend ALL of his time fund-raising?" Those are facts??

(For the record: Since assuming office in January 2009, President Obama has taken all or part of 83 vacation days, according to CBS News White House correspondent, Mark Knoller. At that rate, Mr. Obama will be on par to take about 168 vacation days during his eight-year tenure.

Here's how Mr. Obama stacks up against more recent Presidents, if he keeps pace with 168 vacation days over eight years. President George W. Bush took all or part of 297 days at his Texas ranch. Bill Clinton took 174 days at Martha's Vineyard and Jackson Hole, Wyoming, and Ronald Reagan vacationed 349 days at his California ranch over eight years."

Pathetic. Just pathetic.


cruster Posted - 6/12/2013 8:09:40 PM | show profile | flag this post

Well At Best

He's governing least, and that IS best, right?

Unless you're saying at least he should govern best, but then shouldn't he be doing it least if he wants it to be best?

Or is it best if at least he governs... best?

That Thomas Jefferson is so hard to understand sometimes.



cruiser Posted - 6/12/2013 8:43:28 PM | show profile | flag this post

Now why are you trying to change the subject???

Is it because you don't have anything with which to refute what I posted? That must be it.

I'm not talking about vacation days...I'm talking about being out fund-raising while the country is going to hell around him.

But you're hell-bent on continually changing the subject to your I-hate-Bush crap.

cruster Posted - 6/12/2013 9:17:04 PM | show profile | flag this post

So Bush Governed Least!

Meaning he governed best!

Jefferson didn't say vacations don't count. W was doing some pretty fine "governing least" while he cleared brush in Texas.

Case closed.



mpdodgson Posted - 6/12/2013 11:09:32 PM | show profile | flag this post

Okay, we'll play it your way.

No mention of Bush at all.

Care to show me the proof/facts/anything that Obama has "skipped the governing altogether"...he's not president anymore? No governing, legislative meetings, security briefings, phone calls, signing things...NOTHING??

"and spend all of his time fund-raising?" He doesn't even show up at the White House anymore?? 100% of the time he's on the road fund-raising??? Those sound like pretty definitive statements to me. Or maybe you just stretched the truth a bit??



orthicon Posted - 6/13/2013 12:51:32 AM | show profile | flag this post

"stretched the truth a bit"????

no..

what he did, as he often does, is lie through his teeth..

but we're used to that from him..

cruiser Posted - 6/13/2013 11:52:53 AM | show profile | flag this post

This is funny as hell

mp...the epitome of exaggeration and hyperbole...doesn't recognize a little tongue-in-cheek exaggeration. ROFL!

cruiser Posted - 6/13/2013 11:59:29 AM | show profile | flag this post

Should have acknowledged

the phony outrage, crocodile tears and faux self-righteous indignation. I'm sure that was his only purpose.

mpdodgson Posted - 6/13/2013 12:02:58 PM | show profile | flag this post

I was just doing

what you asked me to do.

"Now why are you trying to change the subject??? Is it because you don't have anything with which to refute what I posted? That must be it."

So I left the Bush part out of it, and 'refuted' what you posted, i.e., that Obama has "skipped the governing altogether"...and "spend all of his time fund-raising". Heck, i didn't even question the "won a second term as (nominally) president" because it didn't make any sense.

If you want people to "refute what I posted" then we will.

etaoin shrdlu Posted - 6/13/2013 1:23:31 PM | show profile | flag this post

Cruzo's whining...

because Bush COULDN'T fundraise during his second term -- he drove donors away!

Cruzo is so shocked -- shocked I tells ya -- that a politician actually campaigns!

Why, if he were running things, the richest, whitest, male-est candidate would be chosen to lead us by divine right!

Another great cruzo nontroversy to add to the list.

livinliberal Posted - 6/13/2013 10:12:18 PM | show profile | flag this post

Thanks cruster...

For putting it all into perspective...good stuff!

cruiser Posted - 6/14/2013 12:36:14 PM | show profile | flag this post

One would think

the president would stay at home (in the White House) once in a while and attend to the business of the nation instead of constantly seeking donations for his party...and his failed agenda.

Grateful Deadline Posted - 6/14/2013 12:48:06 PM | show profile | flag this post

Yeah, because you know there's no such thing as mobile communication.

Grateful Deadline Posted - 6/14/2013 12:49:39 PM | show profile | flag this post

And, of course, everyone who headlines a fund raiser stays for the entire event -- don't forget that!

mpdodgson Posted - 6/14/2013 1:04:35 PM | show profile | flag this post

I thought we've been thru this

Yea, we have.

"One would think the president would stay at home (in the White House) once in a while and attend to the business of the nation" is just an incredibly stupid statement. There's no other word for it.

Lincolns cottage at the Soldiers home, FDR at Hyde Park, Carter at Camp David, Reagan at his ranch, Bush at Crawford (or reading to kids in a Florida classroom), or Obama on Air Force One. Presidents have always been able to "attend to the business of the nation" without actually sitting in the Oval office.

"skip the governing altogether and spend all of his time fund-raising". If that's true, this dude is one lousy ass Marxist Dictator.

cruiser Posted - 6/14/2013 2:29:39 PM | show profile | flag this post

There is no moral equivalence

regardless of how desperately you'd like to include Obama among those revered former presidents.

etaoin shrdlu Posted - 6/14/2013 2:48:22 PM | show profile | flag this post

Odd that cruzo...

didn't have a problem with W jetsetting around while HIS failed administration floundered in Iraq -- or plunged the country into the worst recession since the Great Depression.

He only has a problem with Obama.

Why?

Because cruzo believes that the GOP cannot ever possibly win an election unless ALL Democratic politicians have their hands tied behind their backs.

That's why he whines about this -- and about Obama actually taking time to campaign for reelection.

Sorry, cruzo. But everyone in this country -- including elected officials -- have a right to participate in the political process. You and your fellow cons have demanded that money be part of that process.

And cruzo knows that Obama can raise a heck of a lot more money than ANY Republican.

mpdodgson Posted - 6/14/2013 3:18:23 PM | show profile | flag this post

Even odder than that

In cruise's Obamaphobia zeal he included Jimmy Carter "among those revered former presidents". I'll remember that.

Bottom line is that anyone claiming that presidents are 'not governing' when they are not in DC really aren't clued in.

con Posted - 6/15/2013 9:30:56 AM | show profile | flag this post

we remember the left pissing and moaning whenever bush went out campaigning or fundraising for other republicans.

when dear leader does it? not a peep about the poor , unemployed, or how people are suffering under the obama regime.

guess those folks don't matter when a democrat is president.

Grateful Deadline Posted - 6/15/2013 11:32:47 AM | show profile | flag this post

Here's an idea for you, con: When you feel a big ol' Democrat-bashing/media-bashing/liberal-bashing urge coming on, try backing away from the keyboard. It'll make you seem smarter.

livinliberal Posted - 6/15/2013 12:13:23 PM | show profile | flag this post

We complained about Bush...

When he disappeared during crises. Like doing nothing during 9/11 and being whisked off to Nebraska...Or eating cake with John McCain and doing a flyover of Katrina. The bottom line isn't where the President is, it is what he does. Obama has been doing a pretty good job despite getting no help from the repub congress. He brought us back from the brink of insolvency...market over 15K...he passed health care reform that could have been a lot better if the repubs hadn't just spent all their time trying to stop it while offering no alternative. He is getting us out of the two Middle East disasters Bush started. Overall, not a bad job so far. Too bad his whole presidency has been spent cleaning up after W...

con Posted - 6/17/2013 10:49:28 AM | show profile | flag this post

grateful deadline, i much appreciate you wanting to make topics all about me, try staying on topic and with the what is being debated.

that will make you smarter and less obsessed.

Grateful Deadline Posted - 6/17/2013 11:51:10 AM | show profile | flag this post

That's a brainy comment out of you right there, con!

Is that as far as your intellect stretches?


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