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The Tea Party
Posted - 4/16/2013 4:56:47 PM | show profile | flag this post
Interesting piece today on NBC: "The Tea Party, four years later"
"When the Tea Party movement made its official debut on April 15, 2009, it made quite a political splash with events across the country protesting President Obama's policies on that Tax Day.
Four years later, that splash looks more like pebble thrown into a pond.
Yesterday, Tea Party groups held events tied to this year’s Tax Day. The group FreedomWorks, for example, organized an "action day" at the U.S. Capitol (which took place before the Boston bombings).
But judged by its sparse attendance -- dozens, not thousands, attended the FreedomWorks rally -- the Tea Party is no longer a national force shaking American politics, although it has continued to influence today's Republican Party."
"One reason why the Tea Party, four years later, has moved from a political force to relative afterthought is its unpopularity. According to a Jan. 2013 NBC/WSJ poll, only 23 percent of Americans viewed the Tea Party positively, versus 47 percent who viewed it negatively"
I would hasten to add that another reason they're so un-popular is that some of them have turned into mini-hate-groups. "In an email to members today, Tea Party Nation head Judson Phillips claimed that the Boston marathon bombing occurred because “we have a government that is not committed to protecting America” since it isn’t willing to “destroy radical Islam.” "It is a pretty safe bet right now that this attack was carried out by an Islamist"
Same group that sent out this gem earlier: "Tea Party Nation: Jewish Democratic Group Proves Liberals are Nazis" Whoa.
TeaParty may or may not have been a good idea once--but I for one Thank God they're pretty much a sick joke now. If only Boehner and Rand Paul got the memo....
Posted - 4/16/2013 7:23:12 PM | show profile | flag this post
i think the tea party folks started to believe..
their own press releases..
started to believe they were now in control of the republican party.. and would bend it to their will..
only to discover, to their chagrin, that the vast majority of republicans..the mainstream, if you will..want nothing to do with the michele bachmanns, the louie gohmerts, rand pauls, jason chaffetzes and mike lees of this country..the farrightwingnuts..
they're sliding into obscurity as we speak..
Posted - 4/16/2013 8:46:08 PM | show profile | flag this post
Tea Party isn't dead...just gone to ground
I disagree that the tea party people who first came to that movement are disappearing. I think their members have merely gone silent because they've been so effectively (and in my opinion unjustifiably) vilified by the democrat party and the media. Terms like crazy right wing zealots and such are constantly thrown their direction. It seems in this country if you don't agree with the democrats/media you get called names and are vilified; simple as that. The former tea party bodies are still there and I believe they still think this country is on entirely the wrong road, but they've lost their own way as well. They became fragmented and with that came weakness; look at the number who didn't vote in the last election...which gave the Chairman his reelection. Bottom line, I think there are a still a whole lot of people out there looking for a leader, who need a leader, someone who's able to express and argue their beliefs in a clear way and who's willing to put up with a lot of media and democrat mud throwing.
By the way, never felt "Tea Party" was a smart way to identify themselves. It was too easy for detractors to mock.
Posted - 4/16/2013 9:42:02 PM | show profile | flag this post
Well, we just disagree.
"I think their members have merely gone silent because they've been so effectively (and in my opinion unjustifiably) vilified". You don't suppose that some of them have merely gone silent because so many of them LOST their elections? Might have something to do with it. Granted, some like Bachmann, Gohlmert, Paul are still around--but they're even vilified by the Republicans.
And read those memos from Tea Party Nation again. You don't consider this guy slightly un-hinged??
"look at the number who didn't vote in the last election...which gave the Chairman his reelection". Okay, the vote percentage was lower than 2008 (That was sort of a monumental historical moment) But it was still higher than 2000. But besides that, he still beat the Republican opponent--what does 57.5% turnout have to do with it?? The winner is the one who gets the most votes, it's not based on turnout.
"I think there are a still a whole lot of people out there looking for a leader, who need a leader, someone who's able to express and argue their beliefs..." Fine. Can't argue with that. If you think the Tea Party can produce one--RUN HIM. Good luck with that.
Posted - 4/17/2013 9:04:51 AM | show profile | flag this post
why is the tea party fading?
the liberal media attacking the tea party and falsely linking the tea party/ tea party philosophy to acts of terror.
also, the tea party was jacked by elitist republicans.
still..... the tea party has had more influence on politics than the occupy wall-street movement . ows'ers had the support of the liberal media, president obama, most democrats, socialist,communist , and nazi groups.
and mp, your political outrage over anti-semitic comments made by a tp member is noted. where was your outrage over anti-semitic comments made by ows'ers?
Posted - 4/17/2013 9:56:51 AM | show profile | flag this post
con; again we disagree
"why is the tea party fading? the liberal media attacking the tea party " Again, I maintain Tea Party favorites like Christine O'Donnell, Sharon Angle, Allen West, Joe Walsh, and many many others LOST because of their own words. Bid Bad Librul Media merely played back what these numb nuts were saying. Current Teabagger idiots like Bachmann and Paul are similiarly getting it because of videotape--not slander.
I will totally agree that TPers have had WAY more influence that OWS. So what?? OWS intent was to make some noise--not run candidates. TPers INTENT was to run candidates.
I woould gladly condemn any and all "anti-semitic comments made by ows'ers?"--except a lone person on the street does not represent the whole group (If that were the case, I have hours and hours of idiotic bigoted statements made at TeaParty rallies). The Head/President of the group (in thise case " Tea Party Nation head Judson Phillips") DOES speak for the group. Big difference.
Posted - 4/17/2013 1:38:58 PM | show profile | flag this post
The Tea Party was not jacked by repubs, it is the other way around. Look how many mainstream repubs were kicked out of office through primaries against tea party radicals, only to be beaten in the general election by a dem. As long as the tea party is around, the republican party is in big trouble by forcing more moderate repubs to go way right. Mitt Romney would have been a decent candidate if he had run on his past record, and quite possibly could have been President if he didn't start catering to the far right. That is good for the dems, but overall not good for the country.
Posted - 4/17/2013 2:41:38 PM | show profile | flag this post
liberal media attacking the tea party
True con/puzo. By repeating things Tea Party members have said, accurately and in context, the librul media has undermined the movement.
This sort of journalism needs to be stopped. You don't see it at Fox or Breitbart, or InfoWars, or Glenn Beck, or Rush Limbaugh or any of the other "real" media outlets that tell heroes like you what to think.
Look what accurate quotations and comprehensive coverage has done to Sarah Palin!
Imagine if someone investigated the claims and posts of con/puzo and the brave cruiser!! These heroes would be discredited by their own words.
Where is the fairness in that? There is none as far as I thinkerate. Ha ha ha!!!!
Posted - 4/17/2013 2:46:20 PM | show profile | flag this post
The TEA Party was...
always an astroturf movement by Freedomworks.
People were lured in with the promise of fighting for low taxes and libertarian policies -- but the TEA Party quickly changed tack to incorporate unpopular social positions -- anti-choice, anti-marriage equality, etc.
That pretty much killed any libertarian support towards the end.
By late last year, the number of Americans who said they agreed with the TEA Party had dropped to the single digits.
That's not the doing of the "librul media" but the TEA Party's own core beliefs. They are out of touch with Americans.
But, they still have enough angry members to affect Republican Primaries. These generally have low voter turnouts where a highly motivated majority can tilt the results.
As long as the TEA Party members stay motivated -- they are perhaps the best ally Democrats have. They are setting up the weakest, most out of touch Republican candidates for general elections.
God bless 'em.
Posted - 4/17/2013 2:58:44 PM | show profile | flag this post
In my post I said the "first" tea party types have gone to cover. I agree with you that since then there's been some, as you say unhinged comments from a select few...who unfortunately are still holding onto their connection with that movement, though I think they're holding on by a thread.
I would hope that if something happened to re-ignite those who rallied in 2010, they would do so under a banner other than "Tea Party".
Posted - 4/17/2013 4:59:32 PM | show profile | flag this post
newscred.. i see where you're going, but..
what you're gonna wind up with is the same loudmouth nutbags trying to hide under a different banner..
and that ain't gonna fly.. they're way too well known now to get away with it..
Posted - 4/17/2013 8:45:32 PM | show profile | flag this post
I honestly don't consider the original organization of people in the Tea Bag movement to have been a group of nut bags. I saw them as average, concerned citizens who saw their country in trouble and wanting to get it back on track, economically and socially. Nothing wrong with that. But they were called "extreme" right wingers from the get go by their opponents. And the media helped promote that image.
Of course now days the term "right winger" is used all too often to include anyone to the right of far left.
Posted - 4/17/2013 11:02:14 PM | show profile | flag this post
well, we saw them somewhat differently..
out here in socal, the leaders were the let's blockade the borders, shoot the aliens, white supremacist, racist nutbags i'd been covering for several years..
even some of the concerned citizens you describe showed up..and quickly disappeared..they didn't want to be anywhere near those bozos..and they're still prertty much gone..
maybe we can chalk it up to the southern california propensity to host all the nuts of whatever stripe..
but i saw what i saw..and a lot of people saw that kind of response all over america..
Posted - 4/18/2013 9:51:49 AM | show profile | flag this post
I agree there were good people concerned about their country who joined early on. But they high-tailed it when they saw the extremists who jumped in -- and saw politicians pandering to the extremists instead of them. You can't blame them -- they were betrayed and used by the extremists.
The TEA Party pretty much killed the moderate wing of the GOP -- and threatens to keep it down for at least a couple more election cycles.
Every time those good people, or moderates, try to move the right forward, the extremists now have the power to defeat them in GOP primaries or shout them down in the right wing media.