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This probably sums up
Posted - 10/17/2013 6:50:10 PM | show profile | flag this post
the nascent agreement between the president and the GOP as succinctly, impartially AND ACCURATELY as possible, given the human aspect of journalism:
Posted - 10/17/2013 7:16:45 PM | show profile | flag this post
you nitwit.. he wsas a lame duck..
the moment he finished the oath of office for his second term..
now it's about making sure his party has a clear path to winning back the house, retaining the senate and the white house..
given the perfomance of your favorite republican idiots over the past few months, he has an excellent chance of accomplishing all three..
Posted - 10/17/2013 7:37:29 PM | show profile | flag this post
Still counting chickens, are you?
Good luck with that.
Posted - 10/17/2013 8:19:34 PM | show profile | flag this post
But the point at which
Obama became a lame duck is immaterial. The crux of the issue is that Harry Reid and the Democrats bear responsibility for rejecting the House proposal, which kicked off the entire debacle.
Had Democrats not been intractible the issue might have been resolved much earlier than it was...provided Democrats were willing to engage in the good practice of compromise.
Republicans put four different compromise measures on the table which Reid and Obama unequivocally asserted their intention not to compromise.
Posted - 10/17/2013 8:54:38 PM | show profile | flag this post
Last line should read
"...WHILE Reid and Obama unequivocally asserted..."
Posted - 10/17/2013 9:01:17 PM | show profile | flag this post
cruiser, your spin is making me sick!
Do they have newspapers and TV where you live?
Or just Brietbart and Infowars?
Posted - 10/17/2013 9:14:56 PM | show profile | flag this post
cruiztwit really believs the loads of crap..
he delivers here..
what was the line from that old song?..oh, yeah..
"..he's more to be pitied than censured.."
Posted - 10/17/2013 10:00:59 PM | show profile | flag this post
Cracks me up!
These morons are SO stupid they attack me instead of the person WHO ACTUALLY MADE THE STATEMENT to which they object.
More to be pitied...
Posted - 10/17/2013 10:09:43 PM | show profile | flag this post
So you're saying you posted it as a joke?
Posted - 10/17/2013 10:35:14 PM | show profile | flag this post
No, dearie, YOU're the joke.
Posted - 10/18/2013 1:03:35 AM | show profile | flag this post
cruiztwit..you'ver got it wrong, as usual..
we attack you because you're a worthless a**hole and an execrable person (?)..
Posted - 10/18/2013 9:12:31 AM | show profile | flag this post
And I almost always ignore you
because you're not worth the time it would take to reply. I'm only posting this to remind you of that fact.
Posted - 10/18/2013 11:17:54 AM | show profile | flag this post
Spoken like a highly trained genius!
Posted - 10/18/2013 11:19:26 AM | show profile | flag this post
Spoken like a highly trained genius with high-level communication skills!
Posted - 10/18/2013 11:40:58 AM | show profile | flag this post
Hey, cruiser, as you sit on your ass today posting nasty comments, the rest of us will be out making the world a better place.
Have fun today with your little hobby!
Posted - 10/18/2013 2:47:50 PM | show profile | flag this post
Hmmmmmm. What a familiar claim.
Where have I heard that before? It was a box of some sort.
Cereal box? No.
Shoe box? No, that's not it.
noozevet!!! We found you
Posted - 10/18/2013 9:09:55 PM | show profile | flag this post
No...THIS probably sums up
The Republican debacle we just went through:
(Obama) "In a statement hailing the deal that re-opened the government and raised the debt ceiling, Obama said that the Republican-led movement to halt the health care law — an effort that led to the shutdown and brought the United States close to default — was unfaithful "to what this country's about."
"You don't like a particular policy or a particular president? Then argue for your position. Go out there and win an election. Push to change it," Obama said. "But don't break it. Don't break what our predecessors spent over two centuries building. That's not being faithful to what this country's about."
ObamaCare was a KEY issue in BOTH presidential elections--and Obama won BOTH. So even inferring he's a loser in any of this is absurd. Of course he's a lame duck--them's the rules. And I'm surprised cruise you can't even read the op-ed from some British blogger you posted--what part of this didn't you understand??
"The shutdown is basically over and the President has won. Or, at least, he's won because the Republicans have definitely lost. Not only did they not get what they wanted – that "life or death" delay on Obamacare implementation – but they've given the impression of dragging partisanship to new lows. Obamacare had been passed already, the Supreme Court had okayed it and Obama had won an election on it, yet the GOP was still prepared to bring the country to the brink of ruin to cripple it. When Grover Norquist is saying that the Right went too far (he of the "drown government in the bath tub" fame) then the Right probably went a bit too far."
(cruise) "The crux of the issue is that Harry Reid and the Democrats bear responsibility for rejecting the House proposal, which kicked off the entire debacle" WRONG AND WRONG. What you do is pass a clean CR and a clean Debt Ceiling...argue other issues outside of that. Especially issues that have already been settled. And that goes for both parties.
Yes, I still think the House and Senate will stay with more or less the same proportions at this point. But yes I still think the GOP has kissed off the WH for the rest of cruise's life. Oh well.
Posted - 10/18/2013 10:53:22 PM | show profile | flag this post
i usually agree with you, mp..not this time..
at least, not totally..
i feel pretty safe in saying the republicans may well have thrtown away the house..and if they somehow cause another mess like this in January and February, I guarantee they'll lose the house..
Posted - 10/18/2013 11:23:35 PM | show profile | flag this post
And I agree with you orth
most of the time...but not totally either (lol)
For one thing--I have no problem with the whole 'Balance of Power' principle. In my gut, I don't think it's a good idea that any Party controls the WH, House, and Senate...hell throw in the SCOTUS for that matter.
Now since Supreme Court members are for life, that solves that problem. And since the Senate needs 60 votes to do pretty much anything, that solves that problem. And with gerrymandering the way it is--there's like what? 12 seats or so that are really in play in the House??
In other other words, it's not the 'entire GOP' in the Congress that disgusts me--it's the Teabaggers. Especialy when idiots like Cruz says he would do this all over again--and plans on it. Rand Paul also comes to mind. I don't mind a 'Loyal Opposition' per se, it's the craziness I cant stand. Some of the morons losing their seats (Walsh comes to mind) does help, and Bachmann quitting for instance in a step in the right direction...
But no, I still see a Repub House, a Dem Senate, and a Dem WH. We'll just have to deal with it.
Posted - 10/19/2013 12:10:29 AM | show profile | flag this post
Count on dogson
to pick a half-dozen or so words...the ones he likes...out of a MUCH longer article. I'll bet he won't qoute the rest...they contradict the bullsh*t he's trying to spread.
Posted - 10/19/2013 12:15:43 AM | show profile | flag this post
"out making the world a better place"
Yes, I am, dearie. I've hired a general contractor to do some extensive work on my house. I can afford it...it's good for the economy, for employment statistics and for the tax rolls of the state of California.
What have YOU done for ANYone or ANYthing lately...besides sit in front of your computer and retch up your venom? Hmmm?
Posted - 10/19/2013 1:36:09 AM | show profile | flag this post
I've just finished work for today. It's 9:35 p.m. In addition to the usual work today, it was assisting 38 individuals hands-on with improving their writing skills in order to get jobs, plus laying down preliminary plans for care of person who suffered an accident and probably will need care for the rest of her life -- and, like you, also lined some pockets by giving four companies my business.
Tomorrow I'll be joining some folks in the morning for a community improvement project. Then I have some contacts to make with two regional nonprofits. How about you? What's up for Saturday?
Posted - 10/19/2013 1:55:37 AM | show profile | flag this post
I hope you're not REALLY waiting for an answer.
Posted - 10/19/2013 2:00:16 AM | show profile | flag this post
BTW, cruiser, I notice that you claim to make the world better by spending money to benefit yourself.
That's an interesting interpretation, and it's consistent with what you show us in this forum, but hiring help for a project leading to one's own benefit rather misses the mark. Using the same principle, you could claim that you make the world a better place by buying groceries and gasoline.
What do you do selflessly for other people -- only for them, with no advantage or result in it for yourself?
Posted - 10/19/2013 2:04:06 AM | show profile | flag this post
*** I hope you're not REALLY waiting for an answer. ***
Oh. Because there isn't any? If that's the case, I didn't mean to embarrass you. With your bragging, there was no way to know.
I had hoped we could begin a conversation about hands-on ways to we're making a difference in our communities.