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Posted - 8/2/2013 11:04:52 PM | show profile | flag this post
Isn't it you, Orthicon, who I agree with a lot, but who I always disagreed with about Wal Mart? Here's an interesting piece on Wal Mart by John Fugelsang.
Posted - 8/2/2013 11:41:06 PM | show profile | flag this post
VTex.. it's a point of view, and i understand it..
but at the end of the day, couldn't much the same be said of many huge companies?..Coca-Cola, PepsiCo, nike, microsoft..mc Donald's..the list goes on..
I just can't begrudge the walton family what they've made..by creating a business behemoth..it's how america works..or is supposed to work..
does this mean you'll go ahead and drink my grolsch?..:-)
Posted - 8/3/2013 12:25:16 AM | show profile | flag this post
Not the way I see it
McDonald's beef grows here. Coke and Pepsi are made here. So those aren't really equivalent.
Sure, there's the whole business model of vertical integration and all standard methods of business to get ahead. I get that.
Wal Mart though took it to levels previously unseen in American business. Keeping HUGE stables of part time workers who didn't get benefits meant that many went without health care 'til it was health-care-by-emergency-room time. Some of them don't so much as make enough to get by on, so they're on assistance that our tax dollars pay for. We get to give yet more money to allow Wal Mart to screw us over. What part of that makes you feel good?
Wal MArt was essentially the piecemeal taking apart of American labor, because after they did it a lot of other places got away with doing it, too.
I don't NOT go to Wal Mart, but I avoid it 'til I can't anymore. I live in a small town (which by the way, had several more stores before Wal Mart came in). That said, I simply can't view Wal Mart as the pinnacle of American business. I see it as the sleaziest of American business--the modern-day equivalent to robber barons, getting away with whatever we let them get away with. I wish fewer of us felt like the Walton family was some rosy-cheeked success story. Maybe they wouldn't get away with so much.
Posted - 8/3/2013 5:11:01 PM | show profile | flag this post
VTexan, Wal Mart
Is where so many Americans shop not because they want to but because it is the only place they can afford to shop. I don't go there ever because I can afford to shop wherever I want. But for a large number of Americans, especially those either out of work or working part-time, Wal Mart is about the only place they can shop. I am constantly amazed at how some of the very people who speak out about the income gap and how unfair our society is to the poor will turn around and disparage Wal Mart because of their business practices, the very business practices that allow them to keep their products affordable to so many Americans. That's just my two cents on Wal Mart.
Posted - 8/3/2013 5:15:20 PM | show profile | flag this post
yeah, and it's a argument we'll never be able to resolve..
with two people I greatly respect..
and i'd rather drop it now, before the wackos decide to jump in and take it over...you know they will..