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VTexan	Posted - 9/17/2012 11:30:15 PM \| show profile \| flag this post ...that should lose Romney the election: http://www.motherjones.com/

Grateful Deadline	Posted - 9/18/2012 12:08:29 AM \| show profile \| flag this post I heard the bite today. The man's a creep.

Grateful Deadline	Posted - 9/18/2012 12:09:43 AM \| show profile \| flag this post Did you hear any of his speech to the U.S. Hispanic Chamber of Commerce today? Snaky.

anonymous 1	Posted - 9/18/2012 8:12:58 AM \| show profile \| flag this post "There are 47 percent of the people who will vote for the president no matter what. All right, there are 47 percent who are with him, who are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims, who believe that government has a responsibility to care for them, who believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you-name-it. That that’s an entitlement. And the government should give it to them. And they will vote for this president no matter what… Our message of low taxes doesn’t connect…so my job is is not to worry about those people. I’ll never convince them that they should take personal responsibility and care for their lives. What I have to do is convince the five to 10 percent in the center that are independents, that are thoughtful…." Romney will get slammed by the liberal media-because he(Romney) is 100% correct.

etaoin shrdlu	Posted - 9/18/2012 9:24:40 AM \| show profile \| flag this post Let's just look at... this "47%" of the American people who Romney says My job is not to worry about those people Who does NOT pay income taxes? COMBAT TROOPS: The best way you can guarantee you don't pay income taxes is to be deployed to a combat zone. Soldiers in combat pay $0 in income taxes on the pay they earn while downrange. No wonder Romney failed to mention the troops in his acceptance speech..."[his] job is not to worry about those people." RETIREES: If you have no income, you have no income tax to pay. Oddly, the majority of retirees are Republicans, but Romney considers them some of "those people" and he wants them to know..."[his] job is not to worry about those people." HOMEOWNERS and FAMILIES: The main way most Americans avoid an income tax bill is through Child Credits coupled with the Mortgage Interest Tax Deduction. This is often enough to allow working families to get some kind of break at the end of the year. But these people are still paying Payroll Taxes, Fuel Taxes and other federal taxes that pay for things like Social Security, Medicare or streets and highways. If you claim a Mortgage Interest Deduction or have children, you are one of "those people" and Romney wants you to know..."[his] job is not to worry about those people." LOW INCOME WORKERS: Members of these families may work two or more jobs each, but still don't make enough money to pay income taxes. However, they still pay Payroll Taxes, Fuel Taxes and other federal taxes that pay for things like Social Security, Medicare or streets and highways. If you work multiple jobs to make ends meet, but still can't earn enough to qualify to pay income taxes, you are one of "those people" -- and Romney wants you to know..."[his] job is not to worry about those people." POOR, WHITE REPUBLICANS: Primarily in the southern United States. No jobs, no income worth taxing -- but plenty of guns! These people are also overwhelmingly Republican. But to Romney, these loyal, Republican conservatives are "those people" and he wants you to know..."[his] job is not to worry about those people." LARGE CORPORATIONS: If you are Exxon, Romney considers you a person, too. But, if like Exxon, you paid no corporate income taxes last year, then apparently you just made Mitt's Sh!tlist and -- in theory, at least -- you just became one of "those people" and Romney should let you know..."[his] job is not to worry about those people." MITT ROMNEY: Maybe he should be on this list. We don't know. He demanded that every candidate on his short-list of Vice Presidential nominees give him copies of their last ten years of tax returns. But Romney still refuses to release his. He may very well be hiding the fact that HE paid no income taxes sometime in the past few years. In that case, he'd be one of "those people."

beenthere	Posted - 9/18/2012 9:51:17 AM \| show profile \| flag this post Red States Pay No Income Tax And a quick look at the top 10 states that pay no income reveals … why eight out of 10 are RED states of course, all Republican loving states. Note to RED states: Romney hates you. http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2012/09/where-are-the-47-of-americans-who-pay-no-income-taxes/262499/

mpdodgson	Posted - 9/18/2012 10:03:47 AM \| show profile \| flag this post The line that got me... "...who believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you-name-it. That that’s an entitlement" We shouldnt FEED the hungry Americans out there???? This from a guy who gets a $75,000 tax write off for his HORSE???? This from a guy who believes $200,000-$250,000 is the MIDDLE CLASS???? For once I agree with Rick Santorum--"We will never have the elite, smart people on our side.” Ya got that right. Us smart people are going to kick Mitt off to one off his mansions curbs.

beenthere	Posted - 9/18/2012 11:28:25 AM \| show profile \| flag this post There are more clips from the same speech available. I particularly love one where Romney talks about touring a manufacturing site in China that Bain is considering buying. He talks about how wonderful it is that young Chinese girls sleep in bunk beds three high, 12 to a room, 120 girls per ONE BATHROOM, and work ridiculously long hours. He explains that the barbwire fence and armed guards are there to "keep people out," not keep the girls in. Yep, that's what he says. It's like he found the holy grail. Beyond disgusting. Working humans like slaves, like dogs ... he approves. There really are no words.

beenthere	Posted - 9/18/2012 11:31:29 AM \| show profile \| flag this post Look for more clips to be released this week, too. The shit is going to keep coming.

etaoin shrdlu	Posted - 9/18/2012 12:01:08 PM \| show profile \| flag this post If nothing else... the video proves Mitt has a Size 12D mouth.

beenthere	Posted - 9/18/2012 12:13:32 PM \| show profile \| flag this post No, it proves he's an asshole, not fit to govern the United States. You can't govern a population when you've already written off half of them.

anonymous 1	Posted - 9/18/2012 12:18:49 PM \| show profile \| flag this post I'm waitin' on some "Obama cash" "Obama gonna pay my rent" "Obama gonna put gas in my car" "Obama gonna make so i don't work so hard" Scream Obama voters. Democrats actually tell their voters republicans will take away their welfare. Democrats run on freebies. "And a quick look at the top 10 states that pay no income reveals … why eight out of 10 are RED states of course, all Republican loving states. " And you will find most of these folks who pay no incomes- are in the cities and support Obama.

beenthere	Posted - 9/18/2012 12:45:56 PM \| show profile \| flag this post And you will find most of these folks who pay no incomes- are in the cities and support Obama. ____ Yes that's why they are RED states, because they support Obama. You must work for the Romney campaign.

etaoin shrdlu	Posted - 9/18/2012 1:26:13 PM \| show profile \| flag this post Conservatives come after Romney... over attacking his own base with the income tax lie. William Kristol is first: Recalling that a good chunk of the 47 percent who don't pay income taxes are Romney supporters -- especially of course seniors (who might well 'believe they are entitled to heath care,' a position Romney agrees with), as well as many lower-income Americans (including men and women serving in the military) who think conservative policies are better for the country even if they're not getting a tax cut under the Romney plan. So Romney seems to have contempt not just for the Democrats who oppose him, but for tens of millions who intend to vote for him." http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/note-romney-s-arrogant-and-stupid-remarks_652548.html

stopbs--	Posted - 9/18/2012 1:36:11 PM \| show profile \| flag this post The distance between us. You know, after all these years, this is one of the few threads which made me realize how far apart we (conservatives and liberals) really are. Romney is correct in regard to our differing ideology. Witness mp's outrage by this partial line: "...who believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you-name-it. That that’s an entitlement" Yes, they and you apparently mp, see that as an entitlement. It should not be. I've tried to explain this before. No one is saying that Americans should not help Americans in need. But, conservatives by and large believe that that help should not come from the government which ends up keeping people on the public dole. It should come from a person's family, their community, their church or temple etc. Why is the government forcing me and the rest of the working population into the long-term support of people I don't even know? It's theft. I realize that there are people who are so isolated that they have no one to reach out to. I personally would not rule out all government aid, but I would make it short term and focus on making people self-sufficient as soon as possible. So what if Romney is rich, my friend? He worked for it. He earned it. He made it. HE fulfilled the American Dream. He is a role model for Americans. etaoin, you really twisted Romney's comments to support your beliefs. You know that he was not talking about the mortgage tax deductions. Off course he doesn't have "to worry about" getting the vote of poor Republicans. You know darn well that he was talking about whose VOTES he has to worry about getting. It also seems rather convenient that you left out all of the people whom Romney was talking about. You know, those "who are dependent on government, who believe they are victims, who believe that government has a responsibility to care for them..." You know that those people exist. If they are not taking from the government themselves, then they believe, as you seem to believe, that government is responsible for financially supporting parts of its population. Romney is saying that he can't worry about appealing to those people as a candidate because they won't vote for him! He's speaking as a candidate. He's right. The entitlement crowd won't vote for him. That's true. You know that it's true. You can quibble over the percentage, but you know that it's true. Romney also doesn't need to worry about the Right. They believe in personal responsibility. His job, as a candidate is to appeal to the people in the middle. That' the smaller percentage of independents who decide a national election. Think about this a second: Independents have to be thoughtful in order to make a choice. If they are truly independent and they are voting, then they have to think about both sides of the debate. Their minds are not made up. Many of the liberals who posted here (I did not read all of the posts) have proven part of Romney's point. You believe as Obama believes. You share his ideology. You will vote for Obama. You will not change your minds. No, Romney is not worried about getting your vote anymore than he's worried about getting mine.

etaoin shrdlu	Posted - 9/18/2012 1:45:00 PM \| show profile \| flag this post Romney is skewing the numbers... About 80% of NON-RETIRED ADULTS pay income taxes. And practically EVERY AMERICAN who has a job pays federal taxes. http://www.brookings.edu/blogs/jobs/posts/2012/04/06-jobs-greenstone-looney But what is damning about Romney's quote is his branding of 47% of the American people -- including combat troops, retirees, homeowners and even children -- as hopeless losers looking for a hand out.

cruiser	Posted - 9/18/2012 2:04:13 PM \| show profile \| flag this post The exaggeration, distortion, hyperbole and just plain dishonesty is truly amazing. How can left wingers live with themselves? "Oh, bue we HAVE to be more equal...we represent the little guys." Heard at the 1968 Democrat convention in Chicago. And it's been getting progressively worse ever since.

etaoin shrdlu	Posted - 9/18/2012 2:18:19 PM \| show profile \| flag this post More hyperbole and ad hominem from cruzo... a sure sign he can't defend Romney for his latest blunder. It's OK, cruzo. If David Brooks and Peggy Noonan are blasting Romney's incompetence, you're free to do the same. Mitt Romney is destroying the Republican Party's chance to retake the White House. His latest example insulted nearly half the American people -- including combat troops, homeowners, white working class southerners, and retirees.

beenthere	Posted - 9/18/2012 2:22:26 PM \| show profile \| flag this post So not one of us on this BB takes or has ever taken (on tax day): Childcare deduction Mortgage interest deduction School tuition deduction Health insurance/healthcare expenses deduction (this one is especially important to those who HAVE THEIR OWN BUSINESSES) Not a one of us has ever received: a Pell grant a public school education Not one of us has PAID into and as such has the RIGHT to expect to receive the benefits of: Social Security Medicare Differing ideology MY ASS. As soon as you stop(bs) benefiting from these, then I can take the alternate position seriously. Until then, I simply cannot. It's hypocritical. Romney is CONDEMNING the very people he is courting. Romney has no interest in even attempting to address HALF of the country. This isn't even about differing ideals. It's about Romney's lack of acknowledgement of 50% of the country and his INABILITY to formulate a plan that could help the situation. And as evidenced by the "China clip" Romney's job creation efforts seem to include slave standard jobs for young women, housed like animals, kept behind barbed wire under threat of gunfire. Not the vision I see for America. I see America as PEOPLE, not MONEY. America is NOT A BUSINESS. It is NOT A CORPORATION. Just. Wow. IF we all are supposed to grasp our bootstraps and pull ourselves up, the FIRST thing Romney needs to address is funding ALL public schools equally. Which he will never do. Because those poor kids, well, their parents are the 50% he doesn't GIVE TWO SHITS ABOUT. SO WHO CARES IF THEY GET ANY EDUCATION AT ALL?? They can just borrow MONEY FROM their parents. Oh, wait ... I really do NOT understand how intelligent people fall for Republican bullshit. Even intelligent people trying to defend Republican policies sound like idiots.

VTexan	Posted - 9/18/2012 2:35:21 PM \| show profile \| flag this post This liberal Obama Voter ...has been on the public dole once. For 6 weeks. While my broken leg healed. The one I broke while on the job. Almost every liberal I know takes pride in this generalized kind of claim. We LIKE having made our own way in the world, wihout government help. Aside from whatever many other reasons to be outraged by his quote, it's NOT FUCKING RIGHT. That should matter to all of us.

cruiser	Posted - 9/18/2012 2:43:20 PM \| show profile \| flag this post "I see America as PEOPLE" I seriously doubt that...but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. I suspect you see the country just like Obama and the rest of the left wingers do...as government. People are just pains in the ass of government.

etaoin shrdlu	Posted - 9/18/2012 2:52:51 PM \| show profile \| flag this post No, cruzo... we liberals see government as made up of the people and answering to the people -- not just the richest or most powerful. We don't judge people's worth by their paychecks or their bank accounts. We believe that all people are created equal, all should be treated equally -- and the President should represent ALL the people -- not just the 54%, or the 1%, he chooses to represent.

mpdodgson	Posted - 9/18/2012 3:20:43 PM \| show profile \| flag this post stopbs; "...who believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you-name-it. That that’s an entitlement" Yes, they and you apparently mp, see that as an entitlement. It should not be." Okay, maybe I should have just emphasized the FOOD part. For any politican--let alone one who thinks he should be president of the United States--if you have no problem with fellow Americans (a large part of them children) going to bed STARVING...then the conservative ideals are waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay out of whack. What the hell does 'Promote the General Welfare' mean to you people???? And please. let us not forget than when Mitt rails against thos who don't pay taxes--he's also talking about at least 30 of the largest corporations in the country...according to Mitt--they're PEOPLE. Why isn't he out on the campaign trail complaining about these PEOPLE not paying their taxes??? http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2011/11/03/360185/30-corporations-no-taxes/?mobile=nc And besides that, it galls me that I'm 20% on my meager income while Mitt's paying MAYBE 13% or less on his I-don't- even-have-a-job fortune. And i have to think what the reaction would be if Obama was just as "honest" about his 'built in opposition'??? Think about it; 'Look I know the bigots won't vote for me if unemployment was brought down to 2%--They just don't wan't a n*gger in the White House' Of course that's true--but he can't say it.

cruiser	Posted - 9/18/2012 3:32:20 PM \| show profile \| flag this post "answering to the people" You can't possibly tell me you think Obama's government is responsive to the people. If it were, the notion of Obamacare would have died a very quick death, the southwestern border would be secured, abortion would be legal only in cases of rape, incest and the life of the mother, etc. These are issues that enjoy overwhelming bipartisan support. "the President should represent ALL the people" He absolutely should...but does not. Obama has his own agenda and damn anything or anyone who stands in his way. That is quite clearly demonstrated by his use of executive orders rather than seeking legislation to overturn measures that have been approved by previous congresses and signed into law by previous presidents...even when they contain specific language that proscribes subsequent executive orders.

cruiser	Posted - 9/18/2012 3:36:47 PM \| show profile \| flag this post "I'm 20% on my meager income while Mitt's paying MAYBE 13%" Mitt's taxes are at the capital gains rate...which is also the rate liberal billionaire Warren Buffet pays. And while Buffet may pretend to object, he's doing NOTHING to change his compensation structure.