Posted - 7/4/2012 9:41:15 PM | show profile | flag this post
First; to orthicon, Sir;
Thank you for that. My veteran status here has been mentioned before...comfy desk job as a JG. My beloved nephew on the other died in the line. Let's just say I'm 'touchy' about the subject.
Which brings us to armchair cowboy coward cruize (again) and his "I don't have to defend my words.They were perfectly logical and not at all derogatory to those who are genuinely disabled"
OH YES THEY WERE. "…”the rest...or some number of them...may be trying to game the system. The percentage is way out of proportion to the number of disabled in previous wars...even Vietnam."
that the younger veterans...those returning from Iraq and Afghanistan...are leaning more toward Obama. THE REASON IS THAT FULLY ONE HALF OF THEM ARE SEEKING DISABILITY. Of course, they are more likely to receive it under Obama's entitlement society" ---
That damn straight is insulting on soe many levels only you would have the balls to try and even defend three words of it. "While you do occasionally get all my words in the correct order, you NEVER preserve the context. There is ALWAYS an out-of-place political spin to everything you post."
WHERE is the correct spin on any of that???
FU. Happy 4th to everyone else.
Posted - 7/4/2012 9:47:05 PM | show profile | flag this post
The right to privacy...
is not a liberal construct, cruzo.
Read a little history.
Or the Constitution.
If you believe there is no right to privacy, then stand up like a proud TEA Partier and post your SSN, DOB and mother's maiden name along with your last three addresses.
You know, to oppose that whole liberal right to privacy lie.
Posted - 7/5/2012 9:39:15 AM | show profile | flag this post
stopbs, I appreciate that you took the time to reply, but you are simply restarting your case that it is up to YOU (although you've extended it essentially, to others LIKE you to pick up the slack for those who may be deemed "worthy" that you do not personally know) to "save" those you deem are worthy through individual charity.
Do you consider police forces charity? Fire houses? Education? Do you oppose all taxes that do not benefit you directly? Do you oppose corporate welfare or only that which helps to benefit destitute families?
And how does one go about helping a young couple who have run up $500,000 in medical bills because of a premature infant birth? Can you personally help THEM pay off their medical insurance bill?
BTW, your comment about those who do not help out of their own pockets is absurd and misplaced. My mother and sister are/were both social workers. My mother founded a soup kitchen that is still in existence 25 years later. We all worked in it for years along with other charitable activities.
So I too have seen people struggling. I just don't think it is up to me to decide who is worthy to help, aside from the fact that I have no means to pay for $500,000 medical bill.
I guess I don't have a god complex. And yes, that is exactly how you are coming across.
Posted - 7/5/2012 11:51:44 AM | show profile | flag this post
stopbs, it would be interesting to watch you calculate how much of a freeway interchange or airport runway to pay for; and how much of education (educate only the 6-year-old future employee you'll hire? Maybe that?).
We have a terrible time getting everyone on my street to kick in for a snowplow. I can't imagine plowing in front of only the paying houses and leaving impassable snow in front of the rest.
Posted - 7/5/2012 2:13:52 PM | show profile | flag this post
"only you would have the balls to
try and even defend three words of it"
For your information...you claim to have been in the military so I'm shocked you don't know this...but both veterans who are truly disabled and those who are not are as contemptuous of people who game the system as I am.
Posted - 7/5/2012 2:20:53 PM | show profile | flag this post
every American is opposed to "gaming the system."
But we are critical of people who'd claim that as many as half of our wounded warriors are trying to "game the system" -- as you accused our veterans of doing.