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orthicon Posted - 7/26/2013 12:53:15 PM | show profile | flag this post

cruiztwit can't stop all this..

he's well paid to write all this crap..if he stopped, he'd starve to death..

hmmm....

beenthere Posted - 7/26/2013 12:59:44 PM | show profile | flag this post

GD:

An honest reply/post would have been: Cruiser posted the link, so I am not going to watch it.

I would have believed that 100% (and I will go out on a limb and guess that everyone else who has seen your postings re cruiser would have also believed that statement). And it probably would have only garnered a snarky retort from cruiser.

But that's not what you wrote.

You cannot assess something if you don't even bother to look at it. It's called JOURNALISM 101.



Grateful Deadline Posted - 7/26/2013 1:00:15 PM | show profile | flag this post

beenthere, you don't know diddly-squat about reporting. Quit trying to take out your ignorance on the rest of us.

You could learn by asking questions about it. It's not difficult to do. Try it. We promise not to call you "reporter" for asking in order to learn.

cruiser Posted - 7/26/2013 1:08:33 PM | show profile | flag this post

Notice that she won't address the comment

but tries...like most left wingers do...to deflect the focus of the post and change the subject.

mpdodgson Posted - 7/26/2013 1:12:43 PM | show profile | flag this post

Wingnuts, Please, Listen to yourselves

and keep things in PERSPECTIVE. You wouldn't be labled wingnuts if you didn't sound like one.

cruise? Your whole 'there is this "intoxicating concoction Martin was obviously on because he bought juice and candy--and this wingnut video proves it even though it proves nothing and his autopsy shows he had liver damage because of this homemade crap even though the autopsy says absolutely nothing like that you Martin sympathizers dont realize poor George with a gun got roughed up by a guy without one'....

Oh just shut up at this point. You bought into another bullshit conspiracy theory. You just won't admit it. The guy with the gun got away with it. The family and people like me are willing to let it go. I don't understand why you're being anal about it.

"The radical left is very practiced at trying to minimize and trivialize everything that doesn't fit with their narrative" Yea. Damn us. We like stuff like facts. Fits into our narrative. (See: Birthers/Obama Nazi Socialist Commie)

And beenthere/newscred/whoever...You realize of course that this is a friggin bulletin board right? Grateful is to be villified because she didn't jump thru hoops for you? It's a pastime outside of work, a diversion etc etc? No one here HAS TO utilize the same practices we do at work. "There is no intellectual curiosity in news anymore" "No one asks any questions or forms their own opinions"

"Would that fly in a newsroom?" No of course not you moron. THIS ISN'T A NEWSROOM. And you should be thankful for that. If it was, conspiracy nut cases and bigots would be shown the door and blackballed to the best of my ability.

Grateful Deadline Posted - 7/26/2013 1:12:49 PM | show profile | flag this post

*** GD:
An honest reply/post would have been: Cruiser posted the link, so I am not going to watch it.
I would have believed that 100% ***

It wouldn't make a difference whether cruiser posted a link to a kitty-cat video. I still don't have time to watch 10-minute video for which the poster gives no synopsis.

Your incapability of wrapping your mind around this isn't my problem. My life is MY life, not yours. You can try to run MY life until the cows come home, and all its going to do is waste YOUR time.

Grateful Deadline Posted - 7/26/2013 1:20:20 PM | show profile | flag this post

Congratulations on moving the focus off the video and into the predictable personal/professional attack. You guys are so juvenile, it's pathetic.

mpdodgson Posted - 7/26/2013 2:02:57 PM | show profile | flag this post

One more time; for perspective.

To wingnuts who have never been in the biz: Why are you here? If it is nothing more than show your craziness, please STFU and go somewhere else.

newscred? (you) "It's too bad todays newsrooms are filled with activists instead of news people" Do you work in a newsroom? Do you realize this board is not part of work? People like Grateful aren't under the same work rules as they are here. But that should come as no surprise to you...you're the one who wrote;

“Indeed my original post was not based on the whole story. It was based on the reports...I didn't have every fact about the story...but don't think that matters in my statement...(7/1) Ouch. Apparently newzies like Grateful, Tex, me, orthicon, etaoin, and others have to behave HERE exactly like we do at work. You're under no such restrictions.

Hey, don't worry about it. cruise does the same thing. (Quote) "I must confess I did not extensively research this topic. There was no reason for me to do so. I just echoed what I read and I did that because the topic..." another Ouch, but very telling.

(But then, when you consider the Mt Rushmore of lies cruise has spit out...you can start with his latest of a drug crazed Trayvon Martin and work your way back thru Kenyan born Obama the law-breaker, just like Hitler Mao and Stalin, who caused the Great Recession, returning Vets 'gaming the system', "objective of a military rifle is NOT to kill but to wound", Constitution stops with the Bill of Rights, right up to that "For all of you left wingers who supported her" thread he ran away from in Olympic time...

beenthere? You've got the NERVE to criticize GD on ANYTHING regarding the newsbiz you know absolutely nothing about?
"An honest reply/post would have been..." Damn girl...with all the conspiracy theories you float around here (Russian Army/Gov poisoning/DOG organizing protests etc) "It's called JOURNALISM 101" And you know about that...how exactly?

Village Gal Posted - 7/26/2013 2:22:43 PM | show profile | flag this post

it is amusing to read the comments criticizing the news business
from posters who most likely have never seen their byline in a
major newspaper.


cruiser Posted - 7/26/2013 2:33:39 PM | show profile | flag this post

"No one here HAS TO utilize the same practices we do at work

...THIS ISN'T A NEWSROOM"

You finally figured that out??? You left wing deficients are always screaming that we conservatives DON'T use newsroom practices (we do...but that's a whole nother thread).

I guess there's a defect in liberal intellect that says the sauce is ONLY for the goose.

orthicon Posted - 7/26/2013 2:46:42 PM | show profile | flag this post

i actually did watch the video..

what's the phrase i'm searching for?..

oh, yeah..CAUB..

Complete And Utter Bullshit..

but cruiztwit gets paid to post this crap..so no real surprise there..

etaoin shrdlu Posted - 7/26/2013 2:48:53 PM | show profile | flag this post

More to the point...

what does this have to do with Trayvon Martin being stalked and shot?

There is nothing illegal about buying ice tea and skittles.

Zimmerman was not following him to see if he was making "lean." He claimed in his 9/11 call he was suspicious that Martin was going to burglarize a house.

So how does Martin's purchase even play into a reason for a full grown man stalking a teenage boy around the neighborhood and into a dark alley?

mpdodgson Posted - 7/26/2013 2:56:06 PM | show profile | flag this post

Really now? You use 'newsroom practices'?

so posting that bullsh*t video about some possible homemade concoction that TM apparently wasn't on--but there might be some connection somewhere--cause other black kids do it--and we'll lie again about the autopsy report--because we can, hoping no one looks it up--

That was all 'newsroom practices'?? (Not to mention all the crap history of your I pointed out) Not in any newsroom I ever heard of...

And you're NOT "we conservatives". You're WHACKJOBS. WINGNUTS. TIN FOIL HAT WEARING BOOB IDIOTS.

The conservatives I know personally, and many of those in politics, and many that I know in either billboards, blogs, etc (including a few here) are sane individuals who believe in normal conervative principles. Be it less government, less regulation, more free market, etc etc.

Conspiracy theories ad nauseum, blatant racism, and blind hatred of anyone different than me is not bedrock conservative philosophy.


cruiser Posted - 7/26/2013 4:14:05 PM | show profile | flag this post

But Trayvon Martin was NOT "stalked"

That is a complete and utter left wing lie.

Zimmerman had broken off his attempt to follow what he believed to be a suspicious person and was returning to his vehicle when he was jumped by Martin, who punched him in the face, knocking him down and breaking his nose.

Martin was shot AFTER slamming Zimmerman's head into the sidewalk and stating that he (Zimmerman) was going to die that night. It was a CLEAR case of self defense...and the jury agreed.

At least TRY to use the newsroom skills you CLAIM to possess and get your facts straight.

etaoin shrdlu Posted - 7/26/2013 4:16:44 PM | show profile | flag this post

Then what was he doing...

before he "broke off" his stalking of an underage teen? He was stalking Martin! Just because Martin had taken cover from a stalker doesn't let Zimmerman off the hook for being a perv.

Again, under Florida law, if Trayvon had been just 6 months younger, Zimmerman would have been charged as a sexual predator.


Grateful Deadline Posted - 7/26/2013 4:38:00 PM | show profile | flag this post

*** It was a CLEAR case of self defense...and the jury agreed.
At least TRY to use the newsroom skills you CLAIM to possess and get your facts straight. ***

If you were such a hot newsman, cruiser, then you'd know the jury DIDN'T agree that it was a clear case.

You think you're fooling people into thinking that you know anything about "newsroom" skills. That term is not in a professional reporter's or editor's lexicon. You created it. There are no such things as "newsroom" skills. If you want to know why, ask a professional.

This is just one more in your heap of hopelessly flawed little ruses to try to disguise yourself.



con Posted - 7/26/2013 4:43:02 PM | show profile | flag this post

cruiser, why try?

the left is locked into a liberal narrative of emotions and symbolism.

no amount of fact you present will change their minds. it will only make them unhinged........





cruiser Posted - 7/26/2013 4:54:35 PM | show profile | flag this post

"cruiser, why try?"

Because when these idiots are spending so much time trying to control me they can't be doing any damage to the country.

That and the tortured logic, the lame reasoning and the immature attempts at moral equivalence they come up with are humorous...in a pathetic sort of way.

Grateful Deadline Posted - 7/26/2013 5:13:49 PM | show profile | flag this post

*** Because when these idiots are spending so much time trying to control me ***

Not at all. Only you have control over making a public fool of yourself. Nobody else here forces you to post what you post.



cruiser Posted - 7/26/2013 5:49:55 PM | show profile | flag this post

But I CERTAINLY make YOU post one or more responses

every time I make a post. Without question, that takes away some amount of opportunity for you to damage the country with your radical left wing bullsh*t.

orthicon Posted - 7/26/2013 7:02:58 PM | show profile | flag this post

as long as you're posting.. why don't you tell us..

how much you're being paid to write all this crap?..

inquiring minds want to know.. so, I suspect , will the IRS..

mpdodgson Posted - 7/26/2013 7:47:48 PM | show profile | flag this post

Let it go already

How many Zimmerman threads are you planing on starting cruise?

How many more times do we have to hear "if Trayvon Martin had
junped [sic] out of the bushes, busted your nose and bashed your head on the sidewalk would you still think him an innocent child?" Well NO, but it would have been a real cool nifty trick worthy of Copperfield if I was standing in my living room where I friggin belonged talking to the cops...(I know the sheer logic of that escapes you)

Look... you got all hyped up about a video making the rounds in the wingnut blogosphere concerning Juice and candy. That's it. It had no relevance to the TM/GZ case at all. But obviously proves....okay nothing. But sure sounds druggie. Surprised the guy wasn't wearing a hoodie. Throwing in oft repeated lies about the autopsy just makes the whole thing worse.

If I produced a 10 minute video of what happens when a paranoid racist cop wannabe with way to much time on his hands actually fired, lets say...uh, I'll just use an example here...let's say it's a Kel-Tec PF-9 9mm pistol...just for arguments sake...I'm not mentioning any names...Let's see kiddies, what that 9mm bullet does to say....the chest of a 17yr old. Remember...I'm not implying anything here...it's an 'instructional video' donchaknow...

Man cruise...You'd be down my throat faster than a Stoli Jello shot.

And now you tell us you use 'Newsroom Practices'. Holy crap on a cracker. Bulletin: You got your verdict--be it fair or not--move on already.

Grateful Deadline Posted - 7/26/2013 9:22:15 PM | show profile | flag this post

Here's one of my so-called "radical left-wing concepts" from earlier in this thread: "Bashing won't force anyone to sit through 10 minutes of propaganda."

Yep, it sure is despicably radical and left-wing to refuse to be bullied by a handful of anonymous dopes online. Why I don't give up work whenever they demand it and turn into a quivering mass of Jell-O, I don't know -- born missing the Stepford Wife gene, I suppose.

If cruiser were a news professional, he wouldn't treat other news professionals like dirt. We don't behave like that in the news business; we're collegial. We compete to get the story first and best, but we also know each other, work on organization projects together, socialize together and help each other out, especially in the West, where cruiser purports to be. Sometimes we even marry each other.

Poor old cruiser. Such an unconvincing actor.

[EMPTY CHAIR]

LITTLE MAN NO. 5: Empty Chair. The Little Man has left the building and advises the rest of the audience to join him.



Grateful Deadline Posted - 7/26/2013 9:23:59 PM | show profile | flag this post

Any of you guys going to SPJ/RTNDA this year?

cruiser Posted - 7/26/2013 9:58:58 PM | show profile | flag this post

OK, one more time and then I stop responding to you

You and the rest of the moronic left wing fail to acknowledge that THIS WAS ZIMMERMAN'S NEIGHBORHOOD AND THERE HAD BEEN SEVERAL BURGLARIES COMMITTED BY YOUNG BLACK MALES. Zimmerman had JUST AS MUCH RIGHT TO BE THERE AS MARTIN and was justified in being suspicious.

While I will say in retrospect it would have been better had Zimmerman followed the instructions of the dispatcher, Martin nevertheless became the aggressor when he confronted Zimmerman. That was NOT necessary. He could have continued on his way home after Zimmerman lost track of him. There was NO NEED to throw the punch that ultimately led to his death.

Zimmerman was doing what I would expect from a Neighborhood Watch member...watching.

Zimmerman was NOT stalking...he did NOT commit murder. He was defending himself.


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