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| thesecondcoming |
Posted - 8/30/2012 4:43:25 PM | show profile | flag this post
People are being air lifted out of the floods, and there is not one peep from the federal government. Why? Where are all the media personnel who complained about Bush and katrina? There certainly is NO response coming from the White House. That must mean that Obama and the democrats want people to die. |
| cdnreprtr |
Posted - 8/30/2012 6:04:47 PM | show profile | flag this post
Done days ago.. the Obama administration approved aid, through the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA), three days ago. The orders he signed late Wednesday cover 35 parishes in Louisiana and 34 counties in Mississippi. Evac orders were issued early. The levees and pumps were inspected. Oh .. And a lot, lot more: "In the past 24 hours, federal officials have taken the following steps to respond Isaac. ...... http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2012/08/30/tracking-response-isaac It's also,worth noting Obama appointed an experienced, career emergency responder as head of FEMA, Craig Fugate, not a racehorse exec like "brownie" .... Who has been on the ground for days. And the administration isn't slashing the corps of engineers and infrastructure ... Not to mention police, firefighters and ambulances ... Like the government-hating GOP. But, hey, you want to attack the president and american government and responders for doing their job ... Play politics while LA citizens suffer from natural disaster ... Go ahead. Good to see what you're priorities are. Always attack. Never apologize. |
| cruiser |
Posted - 8/30/2012 6:06:34 PM | show profile | flag this post
Could it possibly be that Democrats are finally figuring out that help doesn't magically materialize out of thin air? Relief personnel and supplies must be staged somewhere away from the disdaster area or they'll get wiped out too...along with the disaster area. And then they must be moved in when the threat subsides...and that takes time. Gee...does this mean that Mike Brown was right all along? And that Democrats were dishonest in blaming George Bush and FEMA in the aftermath of Katrina? |
| cdnreprtr |
Posted - 8/30/2012 6:08:48 PM | show profile | flag this post
(just in case you don't click on the link) In the past 24 hours, federal officials have taken the following steps to respond Isaac. Check out the list, compiled by the Federal Emergency Management Agency below, or visit FEMA.gov for additional information. -The President was briefed by DHS Secretary Napolitano, FEMA Administrator Fugate and National Hurricane Center Director Dr. Knabb on the current impact of the hurricanes and federal government response and recovery actions. - President Obama, joined by Department of Homeland Security (DHS) Secretary Janet Napolitano, FEMA Administrator Craig Fugate and National Hurricane Center Director Dr. Rick Knabb, convened a call with Alabama Governor Robert Bentley, Louisiana Governor Bobby Jindal, Mississippi Governor Phil Bryant, and New Orleans Mayor Mitch Landrieu. - FEMA Administrator Craig Fugate was on the ground in Louisiana, where he visited the state emergency operations center in Baton Rouge, met with Governor Bobby Jindal and Plaquemines Parish President Billy Nungesser. -Secretary Napolitano also called Arkansas Governor Mike Beebe and Missouri Governor Jay Nixon to talk with them about preparations ahead of the arrival of Isaac and to offer any support they might need. - The Department of Energy is the designated Federal Sector-Specific agency directing Emergency Support Function12 (ESF-12) activities for the Energy Sector under the National Response Framework. DOE has teams of responders specializing in energy infrastructure and coordinating with deployed personnel, other Department offices, and Federal and State and local agencies in responding to the emergency. |
| cdnreprtr |
Posted - 8/30/2012 6:09:23 PM | show profile | flag this post
(more) FEMA, in coordination with U.S. Northern Command deployed four UH-60 Blackhawk helicopters from Fort Campbell, KY and two SH-60 Seahawk helicopters from Norfolk Naval Air Station, VA, to assist in search and rescue efforts. A Search and Rescue planner has also been activated and deployed to the Baton Rouge Emergency Operations Center. There are four Emergency Planners Liaison Officers deployed to the National Response Coordination Center in support of FEMA and Fort Polk, LA has been designated as a Federal Team Staging Area. The command has activated Region VI Defense Coordinating Officer (DCO), and Defense Coordinating Element (DCE) to Baton Rouge, LA, to validate, plan and coordinate potential DOD support of FEMA's hurricane response operations and to facilitate DOD's support of potential life-saving and response operations. The U.S. Coast Guard will resume initial response activities aimed solely at saving or protecting lives, to include evacuating people from the affected area, as soon as weather permits, and will continue to monitor conditions at all impacted ports. The U.S. Army Corps of Engineers(USACE) continued to support the states of Alabama, Mississippi and Louisiana Emergency Operation Centers and FEMA Regions IV and VI Regional Response Coordination Centers to organize response efforts, has deployed Emergency Power Teams to Alabama, Mississippi and Louisiana. USACE's commodities, debris, and temporary roofing teams have deployed to Louisiana and others have been placed on alert status to support Florida, Alabama, and Mississippi. USACE teams also have been closely working with the State of Louisiana and Plaquemines Parish to assist in the flood fight of locally owned levees experiencing overtopping from Isaac. Teams on the ground are providing technical assistance, such as hydraulic modeling and finding available portable pumps, to reduce flooding. |
| cdnreprtr |
Posted - 8/30/2012 6:10:10 PM | show profile | flag this post
(and more) The American Red Cross (ARC) has provided shelter to more than 5,200 residents Tuesday night at about 80 shelters in six states from Florida to Texas as Hurricane Isaac made landfall along the Gulf Coast. Also, ARC deployed about 2,700 trained Red Cross disaster workers across the Gulf to run shelters, serve meals and distribute relief items. The Red Cross pre-positioned 311,000 ready-to-eat meals, kitchen support trailers and truck loads of relief supplies with clean up and personal hygiene items, cots, blankets, coolers, shovels, tarps and gloves. In addition, the Southern Baptist Convention had mobile kitchens capable of producing thousands of meals a day staged across the Gulf Coast alongside the Red Cross. Just outside the storm area, 187 emergency response vehicles were ready to move into affected communities as soon as weather conditions allow. Local shelter locations are available at http://www.redcross.org/find-help/shelter Mississippi National Guard responded to Hurricane Isaac with approximately 1,500 members from across the state including military police and others with civil support abilities that would enable them to assist local authorities in recovery and relief efforts. Guard members scouted potential sites for the distribution of food and water and established communications with the various local authorities.Louisiana National Guard pre-staged approximately 680 troops and assets across the New Orleans metropolitan area in order to better protect the community and its citizens as Hurricane Isaac churns toward the Gulf coast. In order to quickly respond to possible high-water evacuation or search and rescue missions, Soldiers from the 769th Engineer Battalion, 225th Engineer Brigade, staged Humvees hitched with boats at Jackson Barracks. USDA Farm Service Agency(FSA) urged livestock producers affected by natural disasters such as Hurricane Isaac to keep thorough records of their livestock and feed losses, including additional expenses for such things as feed purchases because of lost supplies. FEMA's Congressional Affairs Division hosted a Congressional Briefing via conference call in conjunction with NOAA's National Weather Service for the Alabama, Florida, Louisiana, and Mississippi Congressional delegations, Congressional Asian, Black and Hispanic Caucuses and our Authorizers and Appropriators. The purpose of the call is to provide an update on the latest track of Hurricane Isaac and FEMA's current posture and preparations going forward. FEMA's Private Sector Representative in the National Response Coordination Center (NRCC) in Washington, D.C. continues to engage National Business Emergency Operations Center (NBEOC) members requesting store open/closed status from impacted areas. Additionally, the NBEOC will host a call at 2:30 PM EST followed by Region Private Sector calls. |
| cdnreprtr |
Posted - 8/30/2012 6:12:07 PM | show profile | flag this post
Hey, guess what?! We built this. Taxpayers. Government. Emergency responders. Citizens. Not business. |
| cruiser |
Posted - 8/30/2012 6:45:43 PM | show profile | flag this post
The Democrats have done a lot of arm-waving and harrumphing in Washington, DC, but I don't see a lot of relief activity along the Gulf Coast. It'll take a few days to get cranked up...just like happened after Katrina. |
| Grateful Deadline |
Posted - 8/30/2012 8:45:16 PM | show profile | flag this post
It takes a while for a tropical storm and its effects to go away -- or to manifest. For instance, some of the flooding happened this morning, as the water from rainfall flows down to the Gulf. |
| cruiser |
Posted - 8/30/2012 9:57:15 PM | show profile | flag this post
What you said is true. However, it has little or nothing to do with what I posted. It is simply a fact of a slowly-developing emergency. Nevertheless, whether the emergency is immediate or protracted, you do NOT stage your assets in the disaster area or they may be lost. You move them in when the danger subsides...whether that takes three hours...or three days...or three weeks. People in California are taught to expect to be self-reliant for several days after a significant and damaging earthquake for that very reason. |
| cdnreprtr |
Posted - 8/31/2012 2:30:54 AM | show profile | flag this post
cruiser cant read. The list was posted by FEMA / WH on Aug 30, before landfall. The resources / response (including search and rescue teams, helicopters,national guards, evac centres, etc) were pre-deployed and ON THE GROUND in the disaster area. It is called disaster preparedness. But let me guess .. you're an expert in that too. (just like brownie) FAIL> |
| thesecondcoming |
Posted - 8/31/2012 8:23:27 AM | show profile | flag this post
That's it cdpropagandist? a posting on FEMA's webpage is enough for you? I wonder if Bush had had a posting on the webpage, if that would have been considered a viable response to you and the media? We all know that you wouldn't be happy with that response had Bush done that. I'm still wondering why the media isn't concerned about Obama's lack of response? |
| cdnreprtr |
Posted - 8/31/2012 10:55:46 AM | show profile | flag this post
Yeah, FEMA is lying... ... about deploying helicopters and rescue teams, and National guard, and red cross shelters before landfall. If only there was some way to verify ... oh .. wait .. the video of teams in their helicopters (and boats) actually rescuing people from floods .. and the corps of engineers pumping flood waters .. and the FEMA chief in NOLA, on the ground... and those caught in the disaster itself actually getting help ... It called reality. fact. proof. Tough stuff for cons to wrap their anti-science, morally challenged, minds around. Just like the reality, and proof, of Bush and Brownie incompetence, waiting for three days, while NOLA citizens huddled in stadiums, and let people die in the wards without rescue. (HEY! Maybe Romney and Ryan can outsource FEMA ... you know, turn it over to a for-profit and run emergency relief and police and firefighters like a business! (boy, people sure will pay a lot when their homes are flooded and they're dying ... supply/demand! Free market! Lets turn disaster victims from tax leeches to paying clients! .. Its the Romney way.... ) |
| Grateful Deadline |
Posted - 8/31/2012 11:57:10 AM | show profile | flag this post
Instead of taking potshots at the disbelievers, how about providing them with the information? The following comes from Googling "FEMA Isaac": Maxwell, FEMA prepare relief supplies for Hurricane Isaac http://www.maxwellgunterdispatch.com/article/20120831/DISPATCH01/120830017/Maxwell-FEMA-prepare-relief-supplies-Hurricane-Isaac?odyssey=tab|topnews|text|Frontpage Following Isaac's exit, Army Corps, FEMA officials join St. Tammany Parish President Pat Brister on tour of Madisonville http://www.nola.com/hurricane/index.ssf/2012/08/following_isaacs_exit_army_cor.html "FEMA Administrator Craig Fugate has been to Alabama and Mississippi and joins Steve Inskeep as he arrives in Louisiana to take stock of the storm." http://www.npr.org/2012/08/29/160248868/femas-fugate-on-isaacs-progress-response FEMA prepares New Orleans for a possible hurricane-strength Isaac http://articles.latimes.com/2012/aug/27/news/la-pn-fema-prepares-new-orleans-for-a-possible-hurricane-isaac-20120827 FEMA: Learning From Katrina, Ready For Isaac http://www.weather.com/news/fema-katrina-lessons-isaac-20120827 FEMA head: Tropical Storm Isaac not just about New Orleans http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/election-2012/wp/2012/08/27/fema-head-tropical-storm-isaac-not-just-about-new-orleans/ FEMA on Isaac evacuations: ‘The time to go is now’ http://www.govexec.com/management/2012/08/fema-isaac-evacuations-time-go-now/57674/ Obama presses FEMA on Isaac prep http://www.politico.com/politico44/2012/08/obama-presses-fema-on-isaac-prep-133353.html FEMA in area readies for Isaac http://www.dentonrc.com/local-news/local-news-headlines/20120829-fema-in-area-readies-for-isaac.ece I don't have time to list any more than the first page, but you can search on "FEMA Isaac" yourself and look among the 14.1 million results. If you have difficulty using search engines (it seems that you do), ask a librarian at your local library to show you how. |
| thesecondcoming |
Posted - 8/31/2012 12:49:56 PM | show profile | flag this post
Romney goes to N.O. but Obama and Biden? Obama and Biden are too busy campaigning to worry about LA & MS. It's astonishing how the dems and the media ripped Bush to shreds, but don't care at all about Obama and Isaac. Actually, we all know that the national media is just the democrat TASS. |
| cdnreprtr |
Posted - 8/31/2012 2:28:29 PM | show profile | flag this post
Thanks Mitt! Mitt shows up for a politicized photo op. Obama sends in the full force of FEMA and government aid. Before landfall. Case closed. Voters know the difference between Obama's action and Romney's empty talk. (and bush's failure) Thanks for proving government works! We built this... We helped them. |
| Grateful Deadline |
Posted - 8/31/2012 3:41:02 PM | show profile | flag this post
Obama skipped the photo op, but he authorized FEMA aid before the storm hit and kept the Gulf Coast governors in the loop personally via telephone about conditions and assistance. What's wrong with those priorities? |
| cruiser |
Posted - 8/31/2012 4:13:46 PM | show profile | flag this post
"full force of FEMA and government" Not even close, poseur. He sent a couple harrumphing arm-wavers. That's all. FEMA can't do ANYYTHING until it stops raining and the water begins to recede. And before that, it'll have to get its relief supplies into the area. Oh! You mistook the local and state rescue efforts for FEMA? It's an understandable screwup for someone who knows NOTHING about how FEMA works. |
| cdnreprtr |
Posted - 8/31/2012 6:15:49 PM | show profile | flag this post
Poor cruiser He knows science! He knows FEMA! He's an EXPERT!!!1! Facts? What facts? Ignores them, even when posted. Can't even troll. As everyone laughs at ya, not with you. U mad? FAIL. |
| cruiser |
Posted - 8/31/2012 8:04:37 PM | show profile | flag this post
All he's got are ad hominem and insults because he doesn't have any facts. |
| cruster |
Posted - 8/31/2012 8:18:39 PM | show profile | flag this post
FEMA a Socialist Plot! These hurricane "victims" should pull themselves up by the sopping wet bootstraps and stop asking for taxpayers to bail them out. This socialist "aid" they're getting because of a "hurricane" is just an example of Obama's creeping socialist..... ...oh wait, we're criticizing him for NOT reacting fast enough with federal help? Oh, ok! Where is Obama? Where is the federal aid? Where is Brownie when we need him?!!!! |
| orthicon |
Posted - 8/31/2012 8:22:35 PM | show profile | flag this post
cruiztwit lives in california, he claims.. and yet says he doesn't approve of prepositioning assets in anticipitation of a disaster.. he obviously knows nothing about calfire, the state fire department, or the u.s. fvorest service.. the feds.. who preposition aircraft, engines, dozers, trucks, water trucks and firefighters all over the state, knowing the wildfires are coming.. it's coming up on rhe santa ana wind season.. the fires should be there soon..and units will be prepro's to meet the flames.. if cruiztwit were a journalist, he'd probably know about things like that.. but, since he isn't... |
| cruiser |
Posted - 9/1/2012 1:18:27 AM | show profile | flag this post
No, I'm NOT a journalist That is a much lower form of writing than what I do. As regards the pre-positioning of assets: There is NO relief agency that pre-positions assets in the places where the disasters are going to happen. On the surface that may seem like a simplistic and flawed statement but if you take the time to think about it you'll see the logic of what I said. |
| cdnreprtr |
Posted - 9/1/2012 3:27:52 AM | show profile | flag this post
If only there were... ... Some magical technology whereby an individual, or "user", could use a "computer" to access an interconnected network .. Or "Internet" ?.. and "search" through diverse informational data bases and content to come up with an answer! Like, say, search: "FEMA" and "preposition". But that's unpossible! Only businesses build things, and such an "internet" would require government coordination, standards and research. Oh woe .. Will anyone ever really find out if emergency responders preposition aid in case of disaster? Nooz is the expert! ....( Oops, i mean cruiser). He's no journalist and not much for the books learnin' or libril lamestream ee-leftist college edjukashun ... But dangnabbit he knows! He sez it .. It's true! Like the holy scriptures! LATIN!!!1! Ad hominem! Go back to to repairing 3/4 tape decks Nooz. I mean cruiser. You're analogue lost in a digital word. |
| cruiser |
Posted - 9/1/2012 10:42:29 AM | show profile | flag this post
I don't know why I'm bothering but you don't keep fire engines in the middle of a tinder-dry forest. You position the engines in a place that won't burn with the trees. Therefore, they must be moved to the fire when required. But some on here csn't see the logic in something as simplistic as a toddler's building blocks. |
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