Where's the media outrage?

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newscred Posted - 10/9/2013 5:04:57 PM | show profile | flag this post

Where's the outrage by media at the obvious favoritism being used by the administration in what is and isn't allowed to happen on monument land.

Allowing democrat politicians and illegal aliens to stage a rally on space that's barred to american citizens is a slap in the face to tax paying citizens. At the same time, WWll veterans are kept away, with barriers in place, from their own monument.

Is this another blatant example of the media being the tool of this administration? That's the way it appears to a whole lot of people in this country.


orthicon Posted - 10/9/2013 7:07:21 PM | show profile | flag this post

newscred..do a little bit of research, will you?..for once?

that demonstration was NOT on federal property.. had NO federal officers involved..

strictly in the hands of the city government of Washington d.c..and the d.c. cops..

I realize non-journalists like to have their news handed to them..don't know HOW to do research..but maybe you oughta try it..it might keep you from embarrassing yourself..

Quinntessential Posted - 10/9/2013 7:32:44 PM | show profile | flag this post

Illegals? Ok. WW2 Vets? They get barrycades.



orthicon Posted - 10/9/2013 7:45:54 PM | show profile | flag this post

notch.. as i tried to tell your lamebrained twin brother..

barry got nothin' to do wit this one..

it was on the streets of d.c,..NOT federal property..

cruster Posted - 10/9/2013 8:01:37 PM | show profile | flag this post

Indeed Where IS the Media Outrage?

About anything!!!

Why are these reporters being objective and covering the issues and reporting facts instead of just plain getting mad and yelling all newscred like!!!

Notch, don't you thinkerate Obama was personally involved in the shutdown of WW2 monuments, national parks and federal puppy rescue sites? I'll bet you beleeve the boy king is behind all this wearing his sweatshirt inside out and backwards.

Ha ha ha, barrycades!

And Notch, where's con/puzo/freedom/may, at your house?




mpdodgson Posted - 10/9/2013 9:55:12 PM | show profile | flag this post

I agree. Where Is the Media Outrage?

Every single day this bullshit shutdown continues there should be stories like this:

What if--what if this was Prseident Romney, and the country of course, being held hostage by two dozen asshole Democrats who were so anal they kep saying they would not pass a clean a "Clean CR" unless the Second Amendment was abolished. 'Get rid of the 'so called right to bear arms--THEN--and only then--we'll pass a budget..."

Would President Romney 'negotiate'? Or would he 'refuse to even have a bargaining session'?? Or would he take the position; 'This is already settled law'?

Where would the Meida Outrage be newscred?

cruiser Posted - 10/9/2013 10:32:50 PM | show profile | flag this post

'This is already settled law'

That's more Democrat smoke and mirrors.

The so-called Bush tax cuts were settled law, too, and your party pissed and moaned for six years until they got them repealed.

It would NOT be unprecedented for Obamacare to be repealed.

Grateful Deadline Posted - 10/10/2013 4:12:58 AM | show profile | flag this post

Not quite. Not at all.

"The Bush tax cuts had sunset provisions that made them expire at the end of 2010, ... "

Sunset provisions are different from repeal.

You could look it up. It's better to get it right when it's so easy for everyone else to look it up.

nleer Posted - 10/10/2013 4:15:21 AM | show profile | flag this post

research before you post cruiser

The Bush tax cuts had a "sunset". It was not "repealed".

Of course if you wish to continue sounding uninformed, then go right ahead. I can always use the laugh.

mpdodgson Posted - 10/10/2013 6:09:14 AM | show profile | flag this post

Besides being dead wrong

about the Bush tax cuts being "repealed"...

...Exactly when did Pelosi and the House shut the government down for a few weeks until the tax cuts were repealed??? Don't remember that happening either. But...but...but...

cruiser Posted - 10/10/2013 8:55:50 AM | show profile | flag this post

Another example that left wingers can't argue with

is the Glass Steagall Act, which limited the kinds of transactions in which banks could engage. It was enacted in 1933. A more consummate example of "settled law" would be difficult to find since it was in force for 67 years.

At the urging of Bob Rubin, Bill Clinton's treasury secretary, the act was repealed in 1999.

Glass Steagall had no "sunset" provisions...it was a case of a Wall Street insider (Rubin) encouraging and evangelizing the repeal of legislation to benefit his Wall Street buddies.

But the bottom line is that Glass Steagall...the very definition of "settled law"...WAS REPEALED.

The repeal of Obamacare would NOT, by any definition, be unprecedented. It happens all the time.

By the way, the fact that the Bush tax cuts expired is not really pertinent. As I said above, Democrats pissed and moaned for SIX YEARS...before the sunset date...to have them repealed and would have tried to do so had they had the votes in congress. So the sunset provision is a pure smokescreen...and anyone who invokes it is flatly dishonest.

cruiser Posted - 10/10/2013 9:00:41 AM | show profile | flag this post

If anyone is interested

Wikipedia has a list of 37 federal laws that have been repealed.

To reiterate, IT HAPPENS ALL THE TIME.

Repealing Obamacare would not, by any definition, be unprecedented.

Quinntessential Posted - 10/10/2013 9:35:20 AM | show profile | flag this post

"What if--what if"

What if Republicans shut down our gubmint 12 times like Democrats did during the Reagan years? What if Republicans waited until the holiday season to shut it down?

I understand. Reagan bad. Obama good.

Anonymous poster-
"Democrats don't look at the past when it is against them. That is why they change it on wiki..."

blackedtaped Posted - 10/10/2013 11:53:09 AM | show profile | flag this post

Media outrage..

This is what all of the media should be outraged over. So much for the most transparent administration ever.
https://www.cpj.org/reports/2013/10/obama-and-the-press-us-leaks-surveillance-post-911.php

cruster Posted - 10/10/2013 12:02:11 PM | show profile | flag this post

There Should be Outrage

All the time. About everything. Don't need a reason. Just be pissed off. All the time.

Then you'd be a conservative.



Quinntessential Posted - 10/10/2013 3:32:02 PM | show profile | flag this post

Romney was quite the Nostradamus. Wasn't he?

Romney was right on this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItGodTIiukc#t=27

Romney was right on Russia, Detroit, Obamacare and President Obama's lack of leadership.

Low information voters are ruining America..



cruster Posted - 10/10/2013 7:38:23 PM | show profile | flag this post

"Low information voters are ruining America"

Yes. Certain people should not be allowed to vote. Romney and the GOP are right about that. Otherwise "the right" candidate" won't get elected.

Maybe if we make up stories about rampant voter fraud and pass a bunch of new voting laws we can stop "those people" from voting and only upright good folks will vote.

And we know who "those people" are, right Notch ol' buddy? (Porch sitters I think you once called them).

After all, Obama has only done much better than George W. Bush and his father.





Quinntessential Posted - 10/10/2013 9:42:14 PM | show profile | flag this post

Adding words to my post? Not nice. Something a journalist shouldn't do.

Are you a journalist cruster? You just here for shits and giggles?

Who are "we"? What "stories" are made up?

Porch sitters? You mean these folks?

Sitting on the Porch: Not a Place, But a State of Mind

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5589974


Obama is better na-na boo-boo?

C'mon joe cruster. Your schtick is tired.

mpdodgson Posted - 10/10/2013 10:06:31 PM | show profile | flag this post

FOCUS People FOCUS

1) The Bush Tax Cuts weren't "repealed"; they had an end date. So either cruise was lying or was mis-informed. Either way, it has NOTHING TO DO with tying any piece of legislation to the budget, hence shutting the government down. Congress should pass a clean CR, therefore avoiding a government shutdown, and argue/debate/vote on a seperate issue at another time.

2) What the HELL does Glass Steagall--or any of the other "37 federal laws that have been repealed" has to do with anything?? Wow. The Expatriation Act of 1907 was repealed too. That totally explains why Cruz and the TeaBaggers feel they are right in keeping 800,000 out of work, and 'shutting down the oceans' as one dickhead put it. Either way, it has NOTHING TO DO with tying any piece of legislation to the budget, hence shutting the government down. Congress should pass a clean CR, therefore avoiding a government shutdown, and argue/debate/vote on a seperate issue at another time.

If that's ObamaCare--fine--if it's another Republican favored forced rape transvaginal ultra-sound--fine. Argue it outside the budget.

3) Crotch: "What if Republicans shut down our gubmint 12 times like Democrats did during the Reagan years?" It was wrong when the Dems did it too--and it wasn't 12 times. (Reagan did it himself a few times). Either way, it has NOTHING TO DO with tying any piece of legislation to the budget, hence shutting the government down. Congress should pass a clean CR, therefore avoiding a government shutdown, and argue/debate/vote on a seperate issue at another time.

4) blackedtpae, Sir; what the HELL does "Leak investigations and surveillance in post-9/11 America" have to do with Boehner not being able to pass a CR?? "Six government employees, plus two contractors including Edward Snowden, have been subjects of felony criminal prosecutions since 2009 under the 1917 Espionage Act..." Holy Felony Batman!! SIX people violated their own oath--and this explains the Government Shutdown.....Ok, so it doesn't.

UPDATE: "NBC/WSJ poll: 60 percent say fire every member of Congress" "...if they had the chance to vote to defeat and replace every single member of Congress, including their own representative, they would"

THAT'S THE POINT. Maybe I wasn't clear. Either way, any way, it has NOTHING TO DO with tying any piece of legislation to the budget, hence shutting the government down. Congress should pass a clean CR, therefore avoiding a government shutdown, and argue/debate/vote on a seperate issue at another time.

cruiser Posted - 10/10/2013 10:58:22 PM | show profile | flag this post

At what point, mp, do you begin to realize

that Obama's spending spree is unsustainable? Doesn't the mere fact of a $17 TRILLION debt scare the living sh*t out of you?

But more to the point: Doesn't the fact of a $17 TRILLION debt THAT OUR KIDS AND GRANDKIDS WILL PROBABLY NEVER BE ABLE TO FULLY REPAY frighten you?

If not, you're WAY stupider than I give you credit for.

Just the INTEREST on the federal debt amounts to nearly $223 BILLION per year...and rising. That money could do a lot of good for a lot of people if it wasn't headed west across the Pacific.

The ONLY way to begin to turn this ship around is to cut off...or at least severely reduce...the supply of money to the government. And one way to do that is to deny further increases to the debt limit. Obama and the Democrats MUST learn that this nation has to start living within its means...just like every American family must do.

And I DON'T GIVE A RAT'S ASS how many previous administrations contributed to the problem. IT HAS TO STOP...STARTING NOW.

cruiser Posted - 10/10/2013 11:01:48 PM | show profile | flag this post

And since you ARE stupider than I give you credit for

let me explain this in simple language:

The name of the law, or the purpose of the law, or who passed the law is MEANINGLESS. ONLY the fact that a "settled law" was repealed has any relevance. That was the whole point...which effectively destroyed your party's argument that Obamacare is "settled law" and therefore cannot be repealed.

We now know that is total bullsh*t.

Grateful Deadline Posted - 10/10/2013 11:08:35 PM | show profile | flag this post

mp, no need to play with fools. They hang themselves just fine without help.

orthicon Posted - 10/10/2013 11:16:36 PM | show profile | flag this post

considerably harder to repeal a law that has..

the imprimatur of the united states supreme court on it, though..

mpdodgson Posted - 10/11/2013 6:36:09 AM | show profile | flag this post

"let me explain this in simple language"

The Debt Limit issue has nothing--repeat--NOTHING to do with the current Government Shutdown. The shutdown is totally about a few dozen grand-standing Teabaggers holding everyone (including the GOP Leadership) hostage by tying the budget to something that has nothing to do with the budget. If Congress would pass a "clean CR" the shutodwn ends. That's it. You wan't to go back an re-argue, re-debate a settled law. Fine. Knock yourselves out.

As for the debt limit...NOW this is a big concern of yours?? I'm sure you were just as pissed off during the Bush, Bush, and Reagan years. Right.

"Obama and the Democrats MUST learn that this nation has to start living within its means..." Your Civics book is just as horrible as your History book. Congress controls the purse strings you idiot. Not the WH. The Republican House already SPENT this money--raising the debt ceiling deals with moneu they already SPENT.

And I'm sick and tired of the ole bullshit comparison to 'The American family'. How many families do you really know that don't have a mortgage, car payments, credit card bills, student loans, etc etc. There's nothing wrong with a little debt, that's fine. Adding a few trillion in debt 'off the books' like the last guy did--now that's wrong.

cruiser Posted - 10/11/2013 10:40:25 AM | show profile | flag this post

There's NOTHING you can explain to me

that will make the Obama administration any smarter or more in tune with the American people. This whole kerfuffle...sequester, continuing resolution, debt limit, Obamacare AND Obama's out-of-control spending along with his imperious, narcissistic attitude, his penchant for unilateral actions and the actions of his congressional Democrat apparatchiks is all connected.

I'm afraid the ONLY way it will be solved is at the ballot box. Thankfully SOME Democrats are beginning to catch on. I only hope it will not be too late for America.


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