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it's just tv folks	Posted - 9/5/2012 1:40:22 PM \| show profile \| flag this post Hispanic candidate of the future? Marco Rubio or Julian Castro? Both seem a bit young to me. Rubio's so called "appeal" has always eluded me. So he's a "white hispanic". I don't care. It's his stated views and his record that I care about. The Rubio family lied about their immigration story. Apparently Marco was caught unaware of his real family history. Julian Castro brilliantly voiced and IS the American Dream. His grandmother worked hard so her daughter and grandsons would have a better life and future. That is the case embodied in the twin Castro brothers. Discuss.

etaoin shrdlu	Posted - 9/5/2012 3:00:45 PM \| show profile \| flag this post I think Rubio is a strong candidate... Castro, I don't know enough about. He'll have to reach a national office -- and in Texas -- I doubt he can get elected Senator for another 15 years (once there's been a major demographic shift). He could reach the House sooner, but that's a lousy base for a White House bid. Rubio has a lot of pluses the GOP need -- but he's hampered by his party. As long as the GOP remains the party of old, white men -- they'll never attract the voters they need to win in an America of majority minorities.

cruiser	Posted - 9/5/2012 5:37:23 PM \| show profile \| flag this post Does anyone need more proof that Democrats are the party of racial and ethnic division?

VTexan	Posted - 9/5/2012 6:30:16 PM \| show profile \| flag this post Yeah, whatever I've interviewed and produced programs that Castro was on at least a half a dozen times. He's quiet, humble, intelligent and decent. I couldn't think of a bad thing to say about him if you held a gun to my head. The demographics are shifting in Texas quite quickly. I don't think he's 15 years from being a senator, if that's the direction he's headed.

mpdodgson	Posted - 9/5/2012 7:10:04 PM \| show profile \| flag this post Quick answer? Rubio. He has State legislator/speaker experience PLUS US Senate experience. Plus, he strikes me as an articulate forward thinker. If the GOP doesn't recognize him as a new fresh face capable of leading the Republicans forward? Then they're as stupid as I think they are. Oooooops...no millionaire business experience!! Doesn't that now dis-qualify you as a potential leader?? Castro gave a great speech, no question. But oviously needs more experience. It's one of the great side-shows of both conventions--you get to see the rising stars as well as the old dismal failures.

orthicon	Posted - 9/5/2012 7:23:02 PM \| show profile \| flag this post on the other hand, "experience" may not be a great thing.. rubio is already half-captured by the tea party..another term in the senate, and he might wind up the same kind of hardcore rightwinger that paul ryan is.. that would NOT be a good thing for the country..

cruster	Posted - 9/5/2012 9:46:12 PM \| show profile \| flag this post Democrats Create Racial Division... ... by including minorities and acknowledging they are minorities. Republicans just pretend everyone is white. Well, almost every Republican is white,... but that's not the point! We just want non-whites to stop harping on their unique circumstances and life experiences and how to change the political landscape to make it more inclusive and... you know... act white.

etaoin shrdlu	Posted - 9/6/2012 9:52:18 AM \| show profile \| flag this post Cruzo... you "proof" of ethnic and racial division is misplaced. I was pointing out how the GOP has divided people by its platform that favors one, specific class of people over all others. THAT is division, cruzo. Understanding the political values of ALL people is called inclusiveness -- something the GOP has shunned.

Ron Mexico	Posted - 9/6/2012 10:37:27 AM \| show profile \| flag this post "The Rubio family lied about their immigration story." Um...Noooo. The liberal media lied and distorted. And they got called out. So have you.

it's just tv folks	Posted - 9/6/2012 11:07:29 AM \| show profile \| flag this post no "ron" Rubio claimed his parents fled Cuba, because of Fidel, 4 years before Castro took over the country. Interesting math skills. I'll quote my original post, "Apparently Marco was caught unaware of his real family history."

cruiser	Posted - 9/6/2012 11:29:12 AM \| show profile \| flag this post "I was pointing out how the GOP has divided people" No, pal, what you pointed out was how Democrats don't see individuals but only consider people as belonging to groups, e.g., black, Hispanic, young, female, etc., and how everything Democrats say and do is tied to race and ethnicity. Hence it is eminent proof of my assertion that Democrats are the party of racial and ethnic division. The GOP, on the other hand, is color and gender blind...embracing all who share its ideals

it's just tv folks	Posted - 9/6/2012 12:16:44 PM \| show profile \| flag this post of course 2old You look at the Republican party and all you see is WHITE!!!!! No color!!!!!

Grateful Deadline	Posted - 9/6/2012 12:22:13 PM \| show profile \| flag this post * Hence it is eminent proof of my assertion that Democrats are the party of racial and ethnic division. * Made me laugh out loud! That is SO funny! Adelante! Rubio or Castro? It depends on what their parties want. The GOP would use Rubio to win back the adoration of Cuban Americans, a traditional stronghold for party. The Dems would use Castro to take Texas and the much larger portion of the demographic that's lumped together and called Hispanic, as if it were homogenous. Rubio and Castro aren't the only Latino rising political stars to watch.

cruiser	Posted - 9/6/2012 12:27:40 PM \| show profile \| flag this post Even when you people are trying to contradict me, you cannot avoid lumping people into racial and ethnic groups. Quod erat demonstrandum.

it's just tv folks	Posted - 9/6/2012 12:40:14 PM \| show profile \| flag this post Castro and Rubio were just the most hyped as the "Hispanic Hope" of their respective parties. I agree there are plenty of other impressive Hispanics. As a side note, 2oldcruztwit must be as happy as a pig in sht today, or is it he is a pig in sht, heck, it doesn't matter. 2old has been given so much attention today that I'll bet he's peed his pants.

etaoin shrdlu	Posted - 9/6/2012 3:12:01 PM \| show profile \| flag this post No, cruzo... What I'm point out is that different groups have different political values and priorities. Why do you think minorities and women are leaving the GOP in droves? Because the GOP only focuses on policies that benefit older, white males. They ignore the issues pressed by people who don't fit those three categories. Democrats, on the other hand, listen to everyone regardless of race, gender, sexual preference, religion or any other demographic. Democrats seek to address the values and needs of ALL Americans, not just the increasingly shrinking, divisive group that the GOP is clinging to. I'm sure our "casual readers" are laughing at the blatant racism in your posts on this thread. They sound so much like the talking points of the racists back in the 1960s that I'd swear you were reading old John Birch Society leaflets!

cruiser	Posted - 9/6/2012 4:25:28 PM \| show profile \| flag this post "Democrats, on the other hand, listen to everyone regardless of race, gender, sexual preference, religion or any other demographic" What they're listening FOR is race, gender, sexual preference, religion and any other demographic. They do NOT listen to what people want and need. They're only interested in maintaining their unholy coalition of "dependent minorities"..and they do that with perpetual anger and class warfare.

mpdodgson	Posted - 9/6/2012 6:16:00 PM \| show profile \| flag this post And you STILL wonder why we accuse jerks like you for playing the "race card"???????? "They're only interested in maintaining their unholy coalition of "dependent minorities".. What the hell does that mean?? Exactly which "dependent minorities" did you have in mind?? Polls show the majority of women, hispanics, blacks, gays, etc, support the Dems more than the Repubs. Now...are they all stupid as large groups, or is their stupidity based upon which "dependent minority" they happen to be in??? "What they're listening FOR is race, gender, sexual preference, religion and any other demographic." NO KIDDING. That's your big bitch against the Dems?? That they listen to any and all demographic????? Personally, I think it's great that both conventions can highlight "minority stars", whether they be hispanic or paraplegic. But the fact remains that the GOP wins or loses on the backs of middle aged white guys. And I'd remind you that the popular vote four years ago was 69,456,897 to 59,934,814 Tell us. Explain it to us. Which "dependent minority" made up those 69 million people??

cruiser	Posted - 9/6/2012 9:59:14 PM \| show profile \| flag this post "What the hell does that mean??" You're really struggling with the English language, pal. Most universities have remedial language classes. A word to the wise?

cruiser	Posted - 9/6/2012 10:02:21 PM \| show profile \| flag this post "Which "dependent minority" made up those 69 million people? All of them together. That's why the Obama camp is lying to each of them now. It cannot afford to lose any of them. But polls show the president with only a tenuous lead in many of them.

Grateful Deadline	Posted - 9/7/2012 12:18:49 AM \| show profile \| flag this post Hell's bells, cruiser, I fall into at least a couple of the categories you're calling "dependent minorities," and I have no idea what the term means. Why not just explain it for us dummies who are it?

etaoin shrdlu	Posted - 9/7/2012 9:18:15 AM \| show profile \| flag this post The largest "dependent minority" in America... is the old, rich, white guys. Your party is ignoring everyone who doesn't fit that mold. Your party is telling everyone else, "Hey, just change your political and religious values to match this one group. Blacks -- you don't need to vote. Gays, you don't need equal rights and protections under the law. Hispanics, you shouldn't be allowed in this country. Women, we'll tell you what medical care you can have and pay you less for equal work." The Republican Party is certainly dividing people up into race, gender, religion and any other way the can categorize people. And they're pushing different government regulations and punishment for each group.

cruiser	Posted - 9/7/2012 12:32:16 PM \| show profile \| flag this post The agenda of the left... not only in the US but also in Europe...is to keep their coalitions of "minorities" (whether that term is factually accurate or not) dependent on the government, thereby cementing the role of leftist governments as "protectors and benefactors." The cynical assumption that these people need the aid of the government is an insult. Most of them are perfectly capable of self sufficiency if given the opportunity...and severed from governmnt largesse, thereby providing the impetus for them to fend for themselves. Animals in the wild are instinctive hunters and foragers until they become dependent on man to provide sustenance. They then lose these skills and the ability to survive on their own. Bill Clinton and Newt Gingrich capably demonstrated that welfare was NOT necessary for the numbers of people who were receiving assistance. The changes they implemented put tens of thousands back to work and reduced the need for such assistance by a significant percentage. One of the hallmark changes was the requirement to seek work and/or education in exchange for benefits. That reduced the welfare rolls enormously. But President Obama, through his DHS, greatly weakened the work requirement by a department memo even though the law proscribed such a unilateral change. Along with that the numbers of people receiving food stamps has risen to an all-time high under Obama. In fact, the government recently ran a media campaign to entice more people to apply. So, yes, the government is actively promoting welfare as a way of keeping their "dependent minorities" dependent...and pandering for votes. In their view, there is no entity better to be the 'protector and benefactor" of "dependent monorities" than the leftist (read: Democrat) governemt, But such an agenda stutifies millions of people and removes them from potentially productive lives.

anonymous 1	Posted - 9/7/2012 12:36:24 PM \| show profile \| flag this post etaoin shrdlu Posted - Your party is telling everyone else, "Hey, just change your political and religious values to match this one group. Blacks -- you don't need to vote. Gays, you don't need equal rights and protections under the law. Hispanics, you shouldn't be allowed in this country. Women, we'll tell you what medical care you can have and pay you less for equal work." Who is telling everyone this? Links please.

Grateful Deadline	Posted - 9/7/2012 2:18:01 PM \| show profile \| flag this post Thanks, cruiser. There's so much preposterous in that explanation, I'll let it stand as your personal beliefs. It's always good to be reminded of the diminution, disregard and fictions in which people like you hold us right here in the year 2012.