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| etaoin shrdlu |
Posted - 8/13/2012 1:49:39 PM | show profile | flag this post
That's the way the Ryan nomination is playing out in the initial polls:
"The announcements of running mates since Dick Cheney in 2000 all showed more positive reactions. Only Dan Quayle in 1988 was viewed less positively."
A USAToday/Gallup poll of voters give the Ryan nomination a lukewarm response.
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/onpolitics/post/2012/08/paul-ryan-poll-vice-president-mitt-romney-/1?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter&dlvrit=206567#.UCkvdKN-NEL
The choice may have energized political junkies on both sides -- but he's not the blockbuster Romney needed to distract attention from his tax problems and plummeting poll numbers.
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| cruster |
Posted - 8/13/2012 2:00:39 PM | show profile | flag this post
Ryan Will Make a Great President
And I think Romney has done the right thing by stepping aside and letting him take over the race.
After all, even some conservative pundits are saying Romney is losing steam and headed for defeat. Better to let Ryan take it from here.
That's what he's doing... right?
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| thesecondcoming |
Posted - 8/13/2012 2:01:23 PM | show profile | flag this post
More spin and propaganda by ES......
Gallup has only done this poll Since 2000. Thus, the Gallup poll doesn't have ANY VP since Cheney.
The propaganda comes in when USA today writes that its compared with a Harris poll.
More writing propaganda comes in when the Gallup poll of ALL adults is compared with likely voters in the Harris poll.
Thus, the bulk of the story is nothing more than propaganda and wishful thinking.
This election is over. Wisconsin, Michigan, Iowa and Ohio just went Romney.
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| etaoin shrdlu |
Posted - 8/13/2012 2:30:30 PM | show profile | flag this post
Yep, Ryan is the WORST choice...
in Gallup's history of doing the poll. But don't you take some solace in at least being able to say he did better than Quayle in the Harris poll?
I mean, Dick freakin' Cheney was a BETTER choice according to Gallup!
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| thesecondcoming |
Posted - 8/13/2012 2:40:40 PM | show profile | flag this post
No I don't....
Because the Gallup poll dates back ONLY to 2000.
You can't compare Gallup to Harris.
And you can't compare ALL voters to likely voters.
It's just political propaganda to compare different polling outfits, as well as totally different polling samples. But that's what the left is doing. Which I'm fine with.
The race is over, and it's not going to be close, regardless of how the left wing media tries to spin it.
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| etaoin shrdlu |
Posted - 8/13/2012 2:55:24 PM | show profile | flag this post
But the Washington Post came up with the same...
lukewarm split as Gallup:
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/08/near-even-split-on-ryan-but-with-positive-movement/
Bot show very little movement for Romney in the long run and nearly equal effects for energizing both Republican and Democratic bases. (The real battle will come when Ryan's Medicare position is sold to seniors -- Romney already appears likely to write off Florida).
And comparing Gallup with Gallup, Ryan is a worse pick than Dick Cheney, Joe Lieberman, Sarah Palin, Joe Biden and John Edwards!
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| cruiser |
Posted - 8/13/2012 3:55:39 PM | show profile | flag this post
Zogby had Obama
five points up before the VP selection. After Ryan was named Obama's lead instantly disappeared.
Now just watch the left wingers on here try to throw Zogby under the bus. But they were all about his polls in earlier elections.
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| cruster |
Posted - 8/14/2012 1:33:43 AM | show profile | flag this post
Gooberated Logic
Going to cause them to loserate. Beleeverate that. Ha ha ha!
Never mind that Ryan is a polarizing factor whose voterizing recordation don't match his worderating.
A richifying privilegerator like Romneycation
He is fantastication for republerizing partification yeah!!
As long as libergoobers and voterators don't pay attention to factication!!
Ha ha ha!!! Troo beleeveration
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| cdnreprtr |
Posted - 8/14/2012 6:41:31 AM | show profile | flag this post
NEWSFLASH!
Veep annoucements get poll bumps. So do conventions. then it gets back to baseline.
I've never seen either translate into meaningful vote swings... despite all the talk of "momentum" and "reset" etc. There's usually a 3-5% jump, within the +/- ... all number spread out overt the general electorate.
The state breakdown may matter, especially in swings.
So far no poll has shown Ryan's nom will give the ticket enough boost to take any swings, even the home state. Even if he did take Wis., its not enough to break obama electoral vote lead.
Did Ryan re-energize the con core? Sure. Whatever. That vote is already locked and accounted. They're like Red Sox fans. They explode over every RBI, and think hating the yankees boosts their own pennant chances. but it doesn't matter, and no one else cares.
frankly, its august where the vast, overwhelming, majority of american voters don't care and have better thing to do: families finishing vacations, getting ready of school, farmers tending to drought ravaged fields. romney's pals diving into pools of coins in their money vaults ...
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| mpdodgson |
Posted - 8/14/2012 7:16:26 AM | show profile | flag this post
Of course there was a bump
I don't care if it was Zogby or not. Announcing a VP will give you a bump. So will the conventions.
It's the AVERAGES I look at. And there, the [presidet still has four point lead.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/us/general_election_romney_vs_obama-1171.html#polls
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| cruiser |
Posted - 8/14/2012 10:32:18 AM | show profile | flag this post
"It's the AVERAGES I look at"
ROFL! Aren't you one of those who rejects the daily tracking polls? They're rolling averages.
I think what you're really saying is you don't want to hear anything that may be bad news for Obama.
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| etaoin shrdlu |
Posted - 8/14/2012 1:25:42 PM | show profile | flag this post
It's a bump, cruzo...
just a bump.
And it's a weak one.
Meanwhile, Paul Ryan's controversial budget plan -- the one even Romney is trying to run away from on the trail -- is beginning to stir up a backlash to Ryan.
While he may appease the GOP base, he also energizes the Democratic base by about the same amount.
He's no savior to the Romney campaign. He may very well be this year's Sarah Palin in the end.
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