Topic: What schools are considered Ivy League?

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umichchick Posted – 10/3/2003 2:59:38 PM | show profile
As far as good schools go...
I know we are talking Ivy League here, but I thought the University of Michigan deserved an honorable mention as one of the best schools in the country. A proud member of the Big Ten, it rocks both academically and in athletics. But I might be a little bias.
reelchick Posted – 10/3/2003 3:07:29 PM | show profile
I liked it better when I thought Ivy League just referred to geography and not college sports. Is America that dull.
catalina Posted – 10/3/2003 3:08:22 PM | show profile
dc, I'm a latecomer to the discussion, but I just have to tell you that out here in the West, nobody mistakes Stanford for an Ivy League school. It's in a league of its own.
caliente Posted – 10/3/2003 3:09:03 PM | show profile
whatever
I went to a teeny-tiny liberal arts college with no sports in New England and was perfectly happy there.
janbrady Posted – 10/3/2003 3:10:55 PM | show profile
well, back in the 1700s and 1800s, when these schools were founded, they *were* in a sports league because of geographical reasons. you couldn't easily travel to california or north carolina to play basketball the way you can today (if those areas were even developed enough to have big universities at that time). plus, a lot of great schools like stanford came along much later in american history. duke, i know, was founded around 1925. so they just don't occupy the same venerated space in people's minds.
penname Posted – 10/3/2003 3:16:42 PM | show profile | email poster
Picasso
Sarah Lawrence is considered part of the Leotard League, along with Bennington and Bard.
dwc Posted – 10/3/2003 3:22:27 PM | show profile
My first year of college was at Virginia Western Community College, which is a part of the Reotard League.
Someone mentioned that Ivy League schools had to do with the original colonies. If that's true, than why aren't there any Virginia schools included? Like William and Mary, or UVA. It's obvious that it's limited to the NE U.S., but not for any reason that involve the orginal colonies.
JrWriter Posted – 10/3/2003 3:34:25 PM | show profile
DC
If you have a master's degree, I'll trade you. Wait, that's not a fair swap. Dangit, I need to get rid of my student loan debt.
picasso13 Posted – 10/3/2003 3:51:13 PM | show profile
Penname
Leotard League (hahaha). Do you mean those schools contain artsy-liberal, chain-smoking student populations who frequent modern and ballet classes? What about the writing programs at those schools?
penname Posted – 10/3/2003 3:55:17 PM | show profile
That's exactly what I mean! Very well put. Don't know about those writing programs, I'm afraid. Cheers.
aquasfresh Posted – 10/3/2003 4:31:56 PM | show profile | email poster
little ivies
Reminiscing about my oh so cool private school days, there were a group of colleges called 'little ivies' since they were so small yet highly selective (amherst, williams and wesleyan). but whatever, it what's you do with that degree that matters. on that note...UVA!!! Go Wahoos!!!!

sorry, i couldn't help myself.
lyu Posted – 10/3/2003 6:46:13 PM | show profile | email poster
Origins
According to the Princeton website:
"The eight universities known as Ivy League schools are (in alphabetical order): Brown, Columbia, Cornell, Dartmouth, Harvard, Pennsylvania, Princeton, and Yale. The idea dates back to October 1933 when Stanley Woodward, a sports writer for the New York Herald Tribune, used the phrase "ivy colleges" to describe these schools, which had common athletic programs."

According to the wordorigins website:
"'Ivy League' … was first used in 1937 by the New York Herald-Tribune sportswriter Caswell Adams. He used it in reference to the unofficial conference of teams also known as the Old Ten. The teams were Army, Brown, Columbia, Cornell, Dartmouth, Harvard, Navy, Pennsylvania, Princeton, and Yale. In 1940, Army and Navy dropped out of the association and the membership has remained the same ever since. The league was formalized in 1954 and played its first games as a formal organization in 1956. (Source: 1993 Information Please Sports Almanac)

The term Ivy Colleges is a few years older, first appearing in the Herald-Tribune in 1933 by sportswriter S. Woodward.

The name derives from the ivy that supposedly climbs the walls at these venerable institutions."
ja Posted – 10/3/2003 7:07:54 PM | show profile | email poster
Don't Forget
about Faber College. Awesome sports program there as well as ROTC.



cptight Posted – 10/3/2003 10:28:12 PM | show profile
And, of course, Whatsamatta U in Frostbite Falls, Minnesota.
bjoconnorfla Posted – 10/5/2003 3:31:50 PM | show profile
When I was at Sarah Lawrence ("Sadie Lou") we joked that SLC and a few of the other originally more avant-garde women's schools were "the three (or was it two?) step-sisters." Sad to say I can't recall the others in the group.

As to writing, I wasn't in it, but the writing program (fiction) seemed pretty good, though the grad program has a better track record. On the whole, SLC students probably are better writers than most since the entire undgrad program revolves around extensive writing in nearly every course. In fact, when I applied the application was just three rather long essays.



thatwritingchick Posted – 10/6/2003 5:32:52 PM | show profile
In addition to all the schools mentioned, there are other smaller, liberal arts schools further north (i.e, Middlebury, Bowdoin, Bates) that are just as selective as the Ivies, if not more so. There are a lot of great schools out there. One shouldn't go to college based on name recognition alone anyway.

Oh, and since everyone else is doing it, I want to give a shout out to my alma mater as well....Go Wahoos!
caligula  Posted – 10/6/2003 8:09:20 PM | show profile
bjoconnorfla
yay I'm "sadie lou" too! i bristle at the stereotypes, although like many they're rooted in truth.
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