Topic: Calculating Years of Experience

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Upward Bound Posted – 8/10/2005 5:37:35 PM | show profile
Do you include time spent at J-School and internships as experience? I have a BSJ and an MSJ from a top J-School which prides itself on hand-on work that is actually published. If I count these things, I have 5 years of experience, but if I only count full time salaried work, that measure drops to 7 months, which seems like a very inaccurate measure of my skills.

Thoughts?

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belinda  Posted – 8/10/2005 6:23:50 PM | show profile
Learning experience is not counted as work experience. You'd get a big smile and a roll of the eyes if you listed j-school as experience, no matter that it published your assignments. But it's fine to list those school publishing achievements under ''education.''

I've seen internships listed under ''experience,'' but an internship is also time spent in education -- a learning rather than a work experience.

What you could do is write a skills-based resume emphasizing what you can bring to an employer rather than where you've been. That, with a great cover letter and your best clips or tearsheets, is a very acceptable type of resume for someone starting out.

After your first job, all the things you did in school, including where you did internships, becomes irrelevant, and you can pare them down until the internships disappear and the education line says only ''School of Rock, Master of Science in journalism.''
Marie Posted – 8/10/2005 9:20:14 PM | show profile
I disagree somewhat. I think internships should go under Professional Experience, which they are. And it counts as work. Depending on the nature of the internship, you can call yourself Reporter, and then in the description sof what you did, ay it was an internship or fellowship (whichever it was) to clear yourself of any misprepresentation. Many of the big newspapers have substantive reporting internships, and I don't see how you couldn't claim this as work experience. Even if you were an EA intern at a magazine, I still think it should come under Professional Expereinc.If you lump it in Education, it's likely to get buried.
bighark Posted – 8/10/2005 9:35:56 PM | show profile
Your Resume

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Name, contact info, etc.

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Experience

Professional: Describe your current job duties.

Internships: List your internships, one by one, with a brief narrative description of what you did.

Here's an example:

<b>Reporting Intern</b>
Length of Internship-Length of Internship
Big Newspaper; City, State
Describe your duties, mentors, and accomplishments

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Skills

(Reporting, Editing, etc.): Detail the skills you acquired in graduate school. List them one by one, and sell yourself.

Computing: List all the programs you know and describe (if applicable) what you can do with them.

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Awards

If you have any, list them.

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Education

MSJ
Year
Institution

BA
Year
Institution
Snowball Posted – 8/11/2005 12:42:02 PM | show profile
I just graduated from college and I was instructed to put internships under ''Related Experience'' since all of my jobs are of not real significance. I would mention under a ''Related Experience'' category your work that was published while in school.
dec423 Posted – 8/11/2005 1:44:05 PM | show profile
I have to say, I am NOT a fan of the ''related experience'' category. What, would you put UNrelated experiences on your resume? Something along the lines of ''Media Experience'' can serve as an umbrella head for a bunch of internships.
always_amelia  Posted – 8/11/2005 5:41:57 PM | show profile | email poster
How do HR/Hiring Managers view experience?
I've been applying, applying and applying to jobs with no interviews :( I was thinking about it and wondered if perhaps I haven't been called because I am applying for EA positions and some of my experience/years working might make it seem as though I am at the Associate level.

I interned for two publications in college, one nationally well-known, was an editor on my college paper and worked in the school's PR office. After college I had two post-grad internships (this was 2001-2002) and finally landed two jobs at the same time, one a six-month freelance position where I did research and editing and the other a writing position for a website (where I've been at two years now.) I've had things published during a few of my internships and very recently had a small piece published in a well-known magazine and am freelancing for a another well-known website.

Could my theory be true? I don't know if I feel comfortable applying for Associate level positions even though I've been working in the industry for a few years.

What do you think?
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