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Topic: Should Imus Be Fired For 'Nappy 'Hos' Comment?
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| markhughweinstein | Posted – 4/10/2007 5:23:08 PM | show profile Organize a Boycott Firing Imus will do very little, as he will be hired by someone else. I want anti-bias organizations like the NAACP, NOW, B'Nai Brith, to publicize regularly who his sponsors are and who appears on his show, so the public, especially those who never even listen to his show, can choose to boycott companies' products that are advertized and the movies and TV shows of those who appear on his show, as well as not vote for politicians who appear. Then he will be properly dealt with. |
| mcquaidla | Posted – 4/10/2007 5:59:05 PM | show profile | email poster why fire him? When we could have so much more fun, putting him in a room with all the girls on the Rutgers basketball team and they could take turns slapping him? You know what the real problem is here? He said mean shit about some young people who didn't deserve it. It's one thing to trash the vice-president, and quite another to make fun of college athletes. It reminds me of when all the rightwingers and news pundits started making fun of Chelsea Clinton's appearance. She was all of 12 at the time...says a lot. |
| Don | Posted – 4/10/2007 7:10:28 PM | show profile | email poster Imus the sexist bigot Courageous? Caring? This is a new low for CBS. It makes Rather fabricating stories mild. If there is anyone posting who regularly watches this fool. Please post the advertisers names. If they continue to fund Imus I can't wait lead my 60,000 associates to pressure them. I am a conservative, father of two wonderful women and fan of TN Womens Basketball team. To slander these highly accomplished young women is beyond belief. FIRE HIM Don |
| mack48 | Posted – 4/11/2007 2:02:35 AM | show profile Should Imus be fired? Come on guys--a 2 week suspension? CBS and MSNBC are more concerned about the Benjamins. Hitting the remote is not enough because there are those who will listen and think it's okay to say it, do it to someone at work or on the street or at a club. It is not okay to be vile. It is not okay to be racist over my airwaves. When the neo- Nazis or the KKK preach hate--everyone stands up. Why is this any different? If there is a cancer, cut it out. We do not and cannot allow it to spread. Fire Imus! Fire WFAN/CBS! Fire MSNBC! Sponsors are pulling out...guys. |
| visitqueen | Posted – 4/11/2007 3:01:11 AM | show profile Nappy head whore vs the "c" word-whiteman term for white who Imus should be fired. in referring to the African-American women as ?nappy headed whores?. Suspension isn't good enough. Would there not have been an outcry if he had referred to them or the other team as ?cunts?. His comments were as offensive to an African-American woman as the ?C? word is to the Caucasian woman. This man said what every white man has thought about saying, and for you to rationalize this as equal to lyrics in a rap song is even more appalling. Mr. Imus was blatant and direct in his inflammatory comments. All though history the white man has referred to the African race in derogatory/degrading terms (men, children, women, and their animals.) Should you read your history books it will reveal that many of these derogatory terms originated from the Angelo Saxon race. They weren?t pretty then and they aren?t pretty now. To have a truly realistic debate ask your audience would they be outraged if he had referred to the other team as pale faced cunts or the ?C? word in any text. In every race there is a word which refers to an ethnic group that is just raw to the bone, |
| visitqueen | Posted – 4/11/2007 3:05:42 AM | show profile | email poster Nappy head whore vs the "c" word-whiteman term for white who Imus should be fired in referring to the African-American women as ?nappy headed whores?. Would there not have been an outcry if he had referred to them or the other team as ?cunts?. His comments were as offensive to an African-American woman as the ?C? word is to the Caucasian woman. This man said what every white man has thought about saying, and for you to rationalize this as equal to lyrics in a rap song is even more appalling. Mr. Imus was blatant and direct in his inflammatory comments. All though history the white man has referred to the African race in derogatory/degrading terms (men, children, women, and their animals.) Should you read your history books it will reveal that many of these derogatory terms originated from the Angelo Saxon race. They weren?t pretty then and they aren?t pretty now. To have a truly realistic debate ask your audience would they be outraged if he had referred to the other team as pale faced cunts or the ?C? word in any text. In every race there is a word which refers to an ethnic group that is just raw to the bone, |
| writesonwater | Posted – 4/11/2007 9:34:31 AM | show profile This addled, foul-mouthed clown needs to know what it's like to lose a job because of something he said. I'm not calling for censorship -- I'm calling for the marketplace to have its way. People need to not be de-sensitized to things that are disgusting. That includes Imus. |
| monteirotime | Posted – 4/11/2007 10:18:41 AM | show profile | email poster Imus I believe that his comments were hideous and should be objected but it is just unbelievable all the fuss about it. Just bringing the question of having him fired for his comments seems a little overboard. I just hope the groups and activists have their say and calm down because it will soon turn around and they will become just oversensitive bullies |
| helenpike | Posted – 4/11/2007 10:28:21 AM | show profile | email poster Where is the FCC in the Imus debacle? Why did the FCC fine Howard Stern and his former employer (Infinity Broadcasting now CBS Radio), but has yet to level any penalties against Imus, CBS Radio, Viacom, or NBC Universal? |
| jhuiett2005 | Posted – 4/11/2007 10:51:53 AM | show profile | email poster So what? To everyone who has been so "offended" by Don Imus: Grow up. The political correctness we have willingly subjected ourselves to in this country is turning us into an absolutely pathetic shell of what we used to be. "Nappy-headed hos"? So what? Other than race mongers like Jackson and Sharpton who need this type of thing to keep feeding their egos and bank accounts, who really cares? Since when did the Rutgers women?s basketball team become a national treasure? Besides, who gives a rip what someone who looks like an ugly, old woman in a cowboy hat and only has a 1 share in the ratings really has to say? Of course, the professionally offended in this country jump all over it like Imus made a death threat or something. We all know this is just another opportunity for the left to do what they always do - throw tantrums and cry like 4-year-olds whenever they have the opportunity. Everyone is so used to being coddled these days that the slightest provocation results in a national whine fest. Where was all the outrage when Jackson and Sharpton used anti-Semitic and anti-white slurs in the past? Those charlatans can say whatever they want about whoever they want and everyone looks the other way. A washed-up, white radio host makes a lame joke and all of a sudden we?re at 10.5 on the ?offensive? scale. We are becoming little more than spineless crybabies in this country. If terrorists really want to inflict harm on us, they don't have to bother sneaking a nuclear dirty bomb into New York City. All they have to do is make a stupid joke about a college basketball team that nobody cares about. If your skin isn?t thick enough to deflect something this benign, you will not make it through this life. If pain is weakness leaving the body, then this country needs lots of pain ? and fast. John Huiett Minneapolis, MN |
| ninian.reid | Posted – 4/11/2007 11:11:39 AM | show profile FORGIVENESS FOR IMUS No , of course the man shouldn't be fired. We must guard against excessive political correctness in all its manifestations. It's in danger of throttling the life out of free speech on both sides of the Atlantic. A Corporate tongue-lashing would be quite sufficient "punishment". Otherwise, beware of a backlash of far great intensity than the original offence. |
| PR Hack | Posted – 4/11/2007 11:28:34 AM | show profile Where were the bosses? One thing I haven't heard people talk about much is this: If Imus has this long history of making these types of remarks, where were his employers before now? He should have been told to tone it down a long time ago, and if he was told and kept on with the remarks, then he should be fired for insubordination. If he wasn't told to keep his remarks in check, then his employers were giving tacit approval. Either way, someone's been asleep at the wheel. |
| ggoldstein | Posted – 4/11/2007 12:14:39 PM | show profile I'm No Fan of Imus But This is Persecution If Imus had any guts at all, he would have told Sharpton, "When you apologize for Tawana Brawley and the Crown Heights riots and inciting another riot in Harlem that killed six people, then maybe I'll apologize. But not until then. Once you cave in to race hustlers like Sharpton (who is probably doing this in hopes in shaking down MSNBC for a few million anyway) you're as good as dead and a sitting duck for the next wave of cheap hustlers like Sharpton and Jesse Jackson. The spinless jelllyfish s at MSNBC should've backed Imus up all the way instead of running for cover--and the sponsors be damned. |
| frankwilson.hobc | Posted – 4/11/2007 1:12:44 PM | show profile | email poster double standard Jesse Jackson--Himie Town Al Sharpton--Twana Brawley Michael Inrvin--Tony Romo's mother must have slept with a slave and he has african america blood. Dusty Baker--My Players are not bothered by the Heat as we are used to the african temperatures. Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson--The Duke University Issue It was wrong what IMUS said but the media forgot to follow up up insensitive remarks by the above. Give me a break |
| poetrymomma | Posted – 4/11/2007 1:41:02 PM | show profile | email poster FIRE THE MAN Imus' charity work doesn't excuse his revealing and racist comment. That's like saying Hitler may have murdered millions, but he had a great management style! His brand of old-school, obviously deeply embedded, bigot-humor is dying out, thank God, but why put up with him any longer? MSNBC, how about replacing him with a smart, satiric voice from this generation? Say Chris Rock. NEXT! |
| rick10 | Posted – 4/11/2007 2:44:10 PM | show profile | email poster Dumb Don Imus And a round of "dumbness" to the two others that surrounded this man during on the worst blunders in radio broadcast history. Their time has finally come and unfortunately for Bernard he may be the one to pay the price since CBS Radio cannot afford to lose the revenue that Imus in the Morning, the man, brings to that company. Losing Stern was bad enough. Losing Imus will put CBS Radio in a real financial bind. The sad part of all of this is that Imus was not smart enough to understand that he was dealing with college educated African Americans who truly understand how to make his life miserable. Targeting the advertiser base is key in detertmining the future of Don Imus. Kudos to those who pulled their ads and should any marketer consider going back on his show, they may face the wrath of a huge marketing base. I can't tell you the last time I ate at a Denny's or bought gas from Texaco. It only takes one silly, stupid incident to rile up the wounded base of consumers. In addition, Hilary Clinton is more than likely in trouble as her good friend James Carville says he will continue to be a guest on the Imus show, that's if he's still around. It's been pushed behind the curtain for now but she does not know yet how much she has offended her African American base by having Carville still supportive of Imus. It will be interesting to see how this all turns out. |
| cellamarie | Posted – 4/11/2007 3:06:34 PM | show profile Have you ever LISTENED to the show? Can someone please tell me what the big deal is? I am a fat, old, white woman and Imus has insulted me, and my husband, a million times. He has said, on many occasions, that fat women are ugly, lazy, uncouth, and stupid. He goes on to say, ?any man who loves a fat woman has no self esteem and only stays because he believes he couldn?t do any better.? There is no doubt that Imus is an insensitive jerk. I have heard this ugly little man insult Christians, Muslims, Immigrants, and Politicians to name a few. I have heard him GUT guests that he claims to LIKE. Being an insensitive jerk is his SCHTICK! Helloooooo!!! When I tired of his inane ramblings, I STOPPED LISTENING TO HIM. Everyone has the same right and responsibility to TURN THE DIAL. I find it difficult to comprehend why there is such an uproar? Does anyone really think that a specific group of people should be protected from his particular brand of ?humor? just because their ancestors are from Africa? Give me a break. He is an idiot. So what! Maybe it is time for the good Rev. Jackson and Al Sharpton to encourage the people they claim to represent to stop putting themselves in the role of VICTIM all the time. Imus did not make those comments because he is a racist. He made them because he is a professional &*%hole. GROW UP! |
| scribbler3 | Posted – 4/11/2007 3:09:51 PM | show profile Imus's True Colors I'm torn on this because I was a huge Imus fan in the late 80's early 90's, before he went national. The show at its best features some of the freshest conversation on the air. And I do believe Imus is a good person, and not a bigot. At its worst, the show devolves into juvenile, tasteless humor. The problem is that a disproportionate amount of that juvenile humor revolves around racial stereotypes. I was always uncomfortable with the way he had his sidekicks (particularly Executive Producer Bernard McGuirk) indulge in the worst of it, and then try to distance himself from those comments. (It is Bernard's voice you hear first using 'ho' in this most recent incident.) Then I read in Michael Wilbon's Washington Post column that Imus acknowledged on the air that he in fact hired McGuirk to do 'nigger jokes.' It's a 60 Minutes interviewed excerpted on NPR's On the Media: http://www.onthemedia.org/yore/transcripts/transcripts_081801_imus.html I don't know how to account for this--why a frequently thoughtful and sensitive talk show host who I do not believe is a bigot indulges in this kind of humor. Part of my still likes him. But he's been playing this game for years and it's finally caught up with him. |
| sumwhiteboy | Posted – 4/11/2007 3:20:57 PM | show profile Specific not General Deep breath everybody, and consider this: the analogy between rappers and Imus isn't a true one: rappers talk about "hos" in general, Imus slurred the members of the Rutgers Womens' Basketball team. If Imus chooses to call his wife the "green ho," then that's between him and her, and she is, after all, a public personality of his and her making. If Imus, however, calls my mother, or my sister, whom he has never met, with whom he has no personal relationship, a "ho," then there's gonna be a problem. It was a cheap shot from Imus, spurred on by his "posse." Now the shoe has been forced onto the other foot; apparently Imus doesn't like begin tagged a racist anymore than Essence Carson enjoys being defined by Don Imus, but Imus did this to himself. Imus can choose to go on trying to get everyone to feel sorry for him, or he can stand up and say"I've got a problem." You can bet that Imus would never use his show to make fun of children with cancer, so he clearly draws lines, personal lines, and he shouldn't pretend as if this were a total fluke, that this is just some "bad thing" that's disconnected from him. |
| tazneeyore | Posted – 4/11/2007 3:48:18 PM | show profile | email poster I dont understand First off I would like to say that its a sad day when people freak out over something someone says as demeaning or hateful or whatever. If people werent so worried about what others are saying weither in gist or seriousness the world would be a far better place. Secondly these women that the cmments were made about have gotten far more attention from this than they deserve, if the comments had not been made all these women wuld have been forgotten as all that come in second always are. Most likely this episode will be benificial and helpful to these women in their futures, " I wonder how many of them will make large sums of money due to these Rascist and sexist comments". and for those uninformed out there no where in the first amendment does it say anything about hate speech not being protected. Speech is speech period, I would bet my entire lfes savings and everything I own that theres not a single erson involved in this controversy be it the women from rutgers and thier coach to those wanting Don Imus fired that have never said something derogatory or offensive of someone in thier lives. As someone once said "LET HE WITHOUT SIN CAST THE FIRST STONE" Finally I will say I dont condone offending anyone in any form of speech or actions. If you dont like what someone in the public says for whatever reason than say dont listen or tune to something else but dont be offensive by trying to kill someones career because they said something that you dissagree with or find offensive. |
| nekalit | Posted – 4/11/2007 3:56:09 PM | show profile Gwen Ifill http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/10/opinion/10ifill.html?_r=1&em&ex=1176&oref=slogin |
| lilo20 | Posted – 4/11/2007 4:52:46 PM | show profile Thanks Mark Weinstein... and others for urging organizations to list companies who advertise on Imus. Along with free speech comes responsibility. And dealing with what ever backlash your free speech stirred up. |
| wolverine | Posted – 4/11/2007 5:24:15 PM | show profile Punishment for Imus Of course what he said was stupid. But he's known for saying outrageous things. What's more upsetting is that here's another case of Al Sharpton stepping into a issue concerning race relations and being sure to make things worse. How he has any credibility is a mystery. He is the man who instigated the false Tawany Brawley accusations of rape against a white ( I believe ) law enforcement officer that ruined the man's career and life. A court found him guilty of something like perjury or obstruction of justice and ordered him to pay damages to the man and he has never paid a cent, hiding behind some false identity as a poor clergyman. Jesse Jackson has lost his fright to be taken seriously too, as he coerces major corporations to support his causes or else face the potential of a boybott of their products by black consumers. Where is the black leadership in this country when black musicicans refer to women as ho's and bitches? Imus isn't the problem. Let them pick up a mirror and hold it to themselves. |
| jsw5 | Posted – 4/11/2007 5:58:12 PM | show profile Imus Imus is wrong, maybe he is past his era/time, But he is equal to his attackers in bull. What about rapper lyrics, Jesse Jackson w/ his Hymie Town comment, and Al Sharpton who ruined Pagano's life with the Tawana Brawley hoax? Why do they ignore Black on Black violence, or insults to women? They are all guilty, hypocrites who make a lot of money, jiving us; immoral people who pretend to act morally for personal and political fame and gain. Why didn't Al and Jesse have to leave the National scene after their disgraceful comments in their own scandals? Why did Dinkins let a riot go on for days in Brooklyn so a jewish scholar was murdered - NO MORE SEPARATE STANDARDS for anyone. (Even Borat). |
| Reason | Posted – 4/11/2007 6:01:29 PM | show profile Y'all forgot one thing... I don't think Imus should be fired. Anyone who listens to "the I-man" knows why. But here's what everybody missed; He said that Rutgers women were"nappy-headed hos". He also said that the other team was pretty. Everyone says "Imus is racist!" Have y'all seen Tennessee? Mostly black and a couple of white chicks, just like Rutgers. But LOOK at them. Black or white, they ARE pretty. Now go back and look at Rutgers. YIKES! Nappy-headed hos! This is not racist or sexist, it's just an insenstive comment on their looks. Now that I've explained this, everyone get back to work... |
