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Topic: Should Imus Be Fired For 'Nappy 'Hos' Comment?
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| JeanMarie | Posted – 4/11/2007 6:42:00 PM | show profile MSNBC pulls the trigger... MSNBC will no longer simulcast the Imus radio program. |
| breeze0228 | Posted – 4/11/2007 7:02:51 PM | show profile Imus I don't think Imus should be fired at all. I don't think it was meant as a racial statement-but it was a mean statement; mean, yet true. I mean, how many of tose girls are in Rutgers because of their academics? Probably none. They are all brawn. I commend them for getting that far in the playoffs and doing a good job, but this one little comment has gotten the media, activists, and just ordinary people to get way out of control. They are a great basketball team with some tough girls...and it's not a bad thing to be a tough girl these days. If I had enough room, I would post all of the racial comments that Jessie Jackson and Al Sharpton has said over the years. When black people say something about their own race, its okay. But a white person makes one off comment, and jackson and sharpton are all over it, turning it into a circus show. And, might I add, doesn't THE REVEREND Jessie jackson have a child out of wedlock? As I said, I can go on and on about comments that these two "political rights" activists has said about whites, Jewish people, New York City and others. But, I'd probably be demeaning the whole african american race if i posted these ( at least in the 'activists' eyes.) |
| Bleak Spouse | Posted – 4/11/2007 7:10:12 PM | show profile I just heard on the radio that Imus's body was found in a hotel in NJ. |
| JeanMarie | Posted – 4/11/2007 7:26:45 PM | show profile Breeze---- Do you know the Rutgers players? Are you speaking to their academics after doing appropriate research and reporting? I'd guess not. It's crappy, irresponsible reporting - plain and simple. Please don't fall into the same trap Imus did. If Imus wants to spout off whatever comes off the top of his head, call his program a comedy show, and say he's an "entertainer" - then he should take his schtick to a comedy channel. There are plenty of places where he can speak his mind and call it whatever he wants. There are venues where he can use those words and nobody would blink. MSNBC is not the place for it. SnoopDog's comments were interesting. Paraphrasing here: "We don't talk about college basketball players. We're talking about h______ that try to steal money from n_____. So, according to Snoop, if you do your research and report acurately, then you can call a h___ a h____. |
| jpfcarroll | Posted – 4/11/2007 9:16:10 PM | show profile | email poster Imus Bandwagon I'm so tired of black people jumping on the bandwagon and looking for reasons to bitch about racial isues. Why didn't Al Sharpton (the man who so called cares about peoples civil rights)come to the rescue of these boys from Duke Univ who are now labeled as Rapists for the rest of their lives. They are innocent. He was there for the pole dancer who lied about being raped becase she was black. Black people should be more worried about the rap "artists" (I say that loosely)who degrade women, use every 4 letter word in the book, call every woman a ho but becuase they are black its OK. Our children will be more damaged by that than Don Imus, a shock Jock, saying a rediculous statement that was so over the top. I dont think the girls from Rutgers are going to be damaged by this. Its not about Imus, its about showing human respect whether you are black or white. Al Sharpton needs a real job. |
| catlondon | Posted – 4/11/2007 9:22:39 PM | show profile Here's a view I saw today--Imus and his shows are products. His audience has decided they don't like the product. He will be fired not for being "politically incorrect" but because he no longer appeals to the consumer, for whatever reason. He is still free to say what he wants about who he wants--the only difference is he probably won't make as much money. This is how a market-based economy works. Karmic retribution is a bitch, isn't it? |
| Frog | Posted – 4/11/2007 10:32:38 PM | show profile Mr. Rogers' Neighborhood By all means, let's have Mr. Rogers deliver our news and be nice to everyone! This was one of the last news show that was critical of the news. Which BTW is lame, lacking real content, and one sided crap! We have a right to say what we want ? we have a right to tune out! I am sick of the milque toast crap we are moving toward. |
| NYer | Posted – 4/12/2007 12:10:58 AM | show profile "By all means, let's have Mr. Rogers deliver our news and be nice to everyone! This was one of the last news show that was critical of the news. Which BTW is lame, lacking real content, and one sided crap!" Appears Procter & Gamble doesn't want to pay for racist crap. Oh well. Sorry! Sure you can still find it on some web sites. |
| kerstin.hallert | Posted – 4/12/2007 1:27:17 AM | show profile nappy- headed media hos Of the Imus scandal as of procreation: the pleasure momentary, the posture ridiculous, the expense damnable |
| NYer | Posted – 4/12/2007 2:06:11 AM | show profile "I'm so tired of black people jumping on the bandwagon and looking for reasons to bitch about racial isues [sic]." Not about "black people," I'm not black, nor a woman (fyi), but Imus fucked up. Drag him off and give him the hook. In this case it's not about the First Amendment, not about freedom of speech, it's about the market, It's about what American Express and other advertisers want to be associated with--apparently not someone talking about nappy-headed hos. They said no more, we're not going to fund this crap. I agree. You and your kind can still find racist rhetoric elswewhere, just won't be on MSNBC as of today, and quite likely won't be on CBS Radio as of tomorrow (or the day after). |
| NYer | Posted – 4/12/2007 2:16:47 AM | show profile Sorry, in case that wasn't clear, last post was to frog. He/she thinks he/she's a critical media consumer, yet doesn't criticize racist garbage when handed on a platter to be lapped up. (All in good fun! Just humor!) Sorry so angry, really not like me 9 to 5, but to see people defending racist garbage--pathetic. Ugh! |
| writesonwater | Posted – 4/12/2007 4:06:09 AM | show profile Way to go, radio. And don't even try to make this about the First Amendment. Imus a martyr? I don't THINK so. The poster child for misunderstood genius? As if. True freedom of speech? Say what you want -- and suck up the consequences. The marketplace speaks. You're free to voice such garbage at work: hopefully, the response to that is unemployment. The marketplace speaks. Don't worry about Imus. Bigots always find some place to peddle their trash. And if he's not really a bigot? Then he's an Alzheimer's victim with no control over his mouth and should be kindly led off the air anyway. There's all kinds of ugly talk on this thread comparing Imus' diarrhea of the mouth with brash statements by black leaders. Apples to apples, please. I haven't heard any black leaders lately refer to a white ladies golf team as pale-faced ho's. If he really feels sorry and really realizes the enormity of his ugliness, he will take the rebuke of being let go with humility born of repentance. Am I holding my breath? Uh, no. |
| CalTom | Posted – 4/12/2007 9:45:45 AM | show profile Imus This is not about Imus insults; he does that for a living and ratings. It is about intimidation on the basis of race. Duke Lacrosse is a prime example. P&G, GM, and other sponsors who have pulled ads beware. |
| husted | Posted – 4/12/2007 10:13:22 AM | show profile Blacks are Second Class Citizens A poster stated earlier that if Imus wasn't fired that means that black race-African Americans are inferior, pathetic second-class citizens. I hate to tell you this, but most are that way. So what else is new. |
| lilo20 | Posted – 4/12/2007 10:28:45 AM | show profile REASON... that rock you're living under must be real cozy. Are male atheletes Adonises? Are they judged by their looks? Hell naw. It's about physical skill for them. Why can't it be the case for women? BTW, the beautiful women of the Rutgers basketball team ROCKED that press conference. Reason, you sound like a throwback from the fifties. Come into the present, baby, come into the present. It's about your actions, not your (perceived) appearance. |
| nekalit | Posted – 4/12/2007 11:03:40 AM | show profile Dude, Oprah rarely touches on racial issues. I might not care about Imus, but I'm totally tuning in to see the ladies from Rutgers, which I thought was a good school, discuss the issue. I can totally understand how they can be hurt by his comments. I still think Imus is irrelevant or not. However, these are 18 -21 year olds that are still seen as "impressionable", and they don't yet know the world is crude and foul. He addressed his issues directly at this team of young women, and I feel bad for them because they're going to forever be associate for that childish name because it's being discussed everywhere. Sucks. |
| weisswords | Posted – 4/12/2007 2:02:09 PM | show profile Free Speech. Kind Heart Free speech is a gift that we are quickly losing in this country. Don Imus might have offended people with his comments, but this is yet another case of something small and insignificant getting blown out of proportion. This is an incident that, in the long run, will not make one lick of difference in our world. What does make a difference is generosity. Don Imus and his wife have helped hundreds of children in their own quiet way, without ever asking for praise or publicity. Give the man some credit for the years he's lived. He's done good things with his celebrity and Imus has had longevity in his career because he's had the guts to say some of the things that other people are scared to voice. You have to respect that. Don Imus does not deserve the public whipping he's gotten for one slip of the tongue. His comment doesn't warrant finger-wagging from Al Sharpton, Whoopi Goldberg, and the like. (Why does everyone have to answer to Al Sharpton, by the way?) I'm sure Imus is sorry. I'm sure he wishes he'd never said it. I'm sure the Rutgers gals will never again go on the court without carefully checking their hair and makeup. |
| batesdon1 | Posted – 4/12/2007 2:50:49 PM | show profile | email poster Imus the Slimeus Truth be told, I never liked Imus. First and foremost, he sounds like he's talking through a mouthful of cheese cloth most of the time and his politics and humor are kind of sophmoric compared to a Bill Maher or George Carlin. That said, I have mixed emotions about his being fired. Yeah, there's free speech to consider but then there's the power he has as a result of his position as a nationally syndicted commentator and host with tens of millions of dollars propping him up. That makes for a different kind of free speech and public platform than the rest of have. Because of this power, and its implications, he certainly has to be censured big time, so maybe firing is the way to go even though he'll never be out of work. Firing isn't going to stop his brand of old-boy (almost invariably white) arrogrance and chic but it may serve as a warning to others on radio and TV to act more professionally and responsibly when they speak to and for millions of Americans. Too bad Imus has to be the lightning rod for such a warning but that's how life works. The big guys get a lot of bennies; the big guys also get beheaded once in awhile, thank God. |
| Deadliner | Posted – 4/12/2007 4:14:28 PM | show profile Imus Story a Tactical Diversion At least now you see evidence of what I've been saying all along: Mainstream media serves purely at the pleasure of its corporate advertisers. We are told what to think morally and politically by the same corporations that tell us what soap to buy and what banks to invest with. Under threat of massive boycotts, Imus' advertisers pulled the carpet from under him. Remember, nobody pulled their ads when they first heard of what Imus said, they only pulled when they figured it would affect their bottom line. The story picked up steam as corporations pulled away, these events are synergistic. The feeding frenzy heightens once GM, Staples, Bigelow Tea, and Procter & Gamble no longer have Imus' back. This is not a coincidence, it's a corporate betrayal. They obviously liked Imus plenty when he made his "Lenny the Jew" comments about Len Berman several years back when Berman abruptly quit his radio show, but only because the outrage was contained. As far as Imus, this should be a one or two day story. Imus says bad thing, people are outraged, Imus apologizes. Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck, Neal Boortz, and Sean Hannity say racist things on their shows all the time and nobody calls them on it. Dumbass Boortz, in particular, calls Muslims "ragpickers" when he really means "ragheads." Still, why aren't these companies pulling their ads from these shows? And while the rest of the mainstream media is rubbernecking at the Imus wreck, their diverted as the Bush administration gets away with erasing hundreds of critical emails from their server, and covering up possibly the greatest political crime of the last 35 years. |
| Deadliner | Posted – 4/12/2007 4:17:06 PM | show profile Sorry for the typo > their diverted as the Bush administration gets away.... of course, I meant they're diverted |
| lilo20 | Posted – 4/12/2007 5:00:04 PM | show profile CBS just fired Imus Good! |
| sumwhiteboy | Posted – 4/12/2007 5:03:58 PM | show profile Not a Free Speech Issue Whoa, I'm really concerned that anyone associated with the media in any way would label this a free speech issue. It's not. Nobody has told Imus that he can't say what he wants, they've merely said that they're not going to pay him to say it. That's the language of commerce, not constitutional speech. Imus and McGuirk can pull up a soap box outside MSNBC headquarters and rail all they want to as long as they're not inciting violence, but they shouldn't expect to get a check at the end of the rally. Even Imus has said that it was wrong for him to wail on the RWBBT. If he can wrap his head around the concept, then we should as well. Imus is struggling with the notion that he is a racist and a sexist, and by his own doing, he's forced to do it on the public stage. It's uncomfortable for him, and it's uncomfortable for us. There may be some who feel that he's nothing to feel ashamed of, but apparently Imus does, else why would he call it a "bad thing"? Given the numbers and kinds of people who he's offended over the years, it's no wonder the Imus bandwagon is so small, and the parade to shame his so large. |
| writesonwater | Posted – 4/12/2007 5:31:28 PM | show profile Way to go, CBS. |
| themediaelite | Posted – 4/12/2007 5:47:00 PM | show profile An open letter to MSNBC and CBS I must say I am extremely disappointed in the decision to cancel the Imus show. You hired a "shock jock" you should know better. When he says something shocking you react as if you were surprised. Shame on you. Now every journalist, every reporter, every member of the media will have to think twice before they write or articulate ANYTHING. Congratulations you've entered the realm of FOX and AIR America. Censorship at its worst. While I enjoy some of your shows. I doubt I can ever watch or listen to your network again, knowing that your "talent" must now clear their comments through some corporate bureaucracy. I think this is the beginning of the end for journalists AND entertainers. How sad. REV AL AND Jesse are the new media watch dogs? They must have clout Ol Les sucumbed........ So why isn't the main stream media screaming free speech? " I may not agree with what you say sir, but I will defend to the death your right to say it".. Sound familiar? |
| druggistkw | Posted – 4/12/2007 5:51:09 PM | show profile | email poster Imus It makes me ill to hear all this crappage about how the women must feel by hearing this , etc .. etc.. Where is all the outrage by the community against all the rap artists, in how they rap and talk about THEIR ho's ??? Its ok for them to sing about it, but not ok for a comedian to make a joke during his show ?? Entertainers should be protected... Its such a hypocritical world we live in... |
