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Topic: Quagmire Accomplished
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| keltoi2 | Posted – 5/1/2007 6:19:42 PM | show profile Four years ago, Bush did his Top Gun imitation and stood on an aircraft carrier sitting within sight of San Diego (though not in carefully scripted camera view) and declared "Mission Accomplished" in Iraq. That is, the heavy lifting was done. Four years later, we've lost more soldiers in Iraq than victims on 9/11, we've dumped about a half-trillion taxpayer dollars and counting down the black hole of that war, and Bush has no answer to how, or when, we are going to get our troops out of there. Tonight he will tell you that "winning" Iraq is key to democracy around the world, "if we don't beat them there we'll meet them here," "we're turning the corner," "withdrawal talk hurts the troops," yadda yadda. What he WON'T tell you is that he, Dick, the neoclown gang and GOP (and some Dem) cheerleaders are the ones who opened that Pandora's Box in the first place, that their unnecessary lie of a war has created this far greater terrorist threat, that sending troops to war based on lies does far greater harm to our soldiers than taking them out of it, and that he has no intention of bringing them home while he's president, no matter what happens over there. And chances are that most of our "liberal" media won't mention that either. PS Wish I could take credit for the title, but I can't. Saw it mentioned in an AP report today on a protester sign. |
| mailbag | Posted – 5/1/2007 7:13:01 PM | show profile | email poster Thankfully I don't have TV. I cannot watch him. |
| UGoGirl | Posted – 5/1/2007 7:19:20 PM | show profile He may say that, but he's lost all credibility. Even in America, the land of Fox News and the uneducated, people are turning very much against Bush and this war. An unmitigated disaster, period. |
| keltoi2 | Posted – 7/24/2007 1:33:07 PM | show profile So now we have the military talking of staying in Iraq until, oh, 2008, 2009, who knows? Funny how there was no talk of an open-ended occupation before BushCo invaded back in 2003. Nope, then it was a "cakewalk". But privately the neoclowns had no intention of ever leaving Iraq, no matter how many terrorists the occupation and oil grab creates. |
| Iron Eagle | Posted – 7/24/2007 1:56:02 PM | show profile Auctally, the military is looking at 3027. |
| keltoi2 | Posted – 7/24/2007 2:01:25 PM | show profile But they don't want to PROMISE 3027, crimedog, because that would play into enemy propaganda. |
| catlondon | Posted – 7/24/2007 3:22:32 PM | show profile So, if you add Katrina to 9/11 and Iraq, that's what? More than 10,000 Americans who have died as a direct result of his leadership, or lack thereof? And there's still a year and a half to go. |
| catlondon | Posted – 7/24/2007 3:29:35 PM | show profile Whoops. I meant during his terms as president, not during his second term. But still... |
| Iron Eagle | Posted – 7/24/2007 4:25:59 PM | show profile He's not finished yet. He's still has Dr. Death - Henry Kissinger as a trump card! Kissinger can add a few hundred thousand to that quickly. |
| mailbag | Posted – 7/24/2007 4:37:30 PM | show profile | email poster unknown numbers To my knowledge cat -- we don't even know the true death toll from Katrina. Still missing people. They are assumed to have just moved elsewhere. But I like your thought -- this president indirectly is responsible for the most deaths in office this nation has seen since WWII -- and yes we must count Iraqis and Afghanistan's people.... figures for which we'll never know. |
| keltoi2 | Posted – 7/24/2007 4:50:00 PM | show profile And today we have Bush warning about the threat Al Qaeda in Iraq poses to the US. Ignoring the degree of validity of that statement, someone should point out to George that he is the sole reason there IS an Al Qaeda in Iraq at all, having been nonexistent in that country until after he invaded. It's like some punk taking a baseball bat to a hornets' nest and then saying, "Hey--someone should do something about those bees." |
| catlondon | Posted – 7/24/2007 5:19:08 PM | show profile mailbag: You're right about Katrina. The official toll is above 1,700, although even Fox News says that hundreds of people were most likely washed into the ocean or swamps never to be found, but we'll never know. I also was counting contractor deaths in Iraq, which in May stood at 917, but they may not have all been American. But still... |
| catlondon | Posted – 7/24/2007 5:21:46 PM | show profile And also, imagine if Franklin Roosevelt had cozied up to everyone's radios during WWII and said, "My fellow Americans, after years of war, the Nazis are stronger than ever!" |
| keltoi2 | Posted – 7/24/2007 5:38:16 PM | show profile America fought and beat the Nazis and Japan in less time then we've been in Iraq. Fought the Civil War from beginning to end in less time as well. |
| UGoGirl | Posted – 7/24/2007 7:46:55 PM | show profile I tell you what, it's a big freakin mess. I can't envision any good outcomes, so what's the least bad strategy? Fiasco, quagmire, disaster. |
| ZeldaMedia | Posted – 7/25/2007 3:48:19 PM | show profile Here's an idea that needs championing Those who voted for the Iraq war must now GO to that war. Those stupid idiots who voted for Bush should be drafted into that war. You wanted it, you got it and now go in there and do it! |
| catlondon | Posted – 7/25/2007 5:21:40 PM | show profile Zelda: You know, that's something I don't understand--the number of healthy people who vocally support Bush and the war and yet refuse to sign up and fight for what they say they believe in. I am one of many people who has a relative who lied about his age in order to serve in World War II and this relative wonders where the social pressure is--why are they are not considered cowards or, in his words, "lily-livered"? And my relative is Republican! |
| keltoi2 | Posted – 7/26/2007 12:00:31 AM | show profile They are considered chickenhawks, cat, with head Iraq Attaq cheerleaders Bush, Cheney, Wolfowitz, Perle, and Limbaugh leading the sorry pack. But why isn't anyone pressuring Bush and the other pro-war Republicans to "sacrifice" like the millions of families who have loved ones in the military? His daughters are certainly eligible. |
| keltoi2 | Posted – 7/31/2007 5:49:38 PM | show profile It gets better and better. Today we have the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs nominee Adm. Michael Mullen saying US troops will be in Iraq "for years, not months," and the Congressional Budget Office projecting costs of about $1 trillion more to keep 75,000 US troops in Iraq until 2017. I guess the only answer is to vote out every Congressman and Congresswoman who does not make it their business to bring our troops home as quickly as is feasible, or your children will be in Baghdad and your grandchildren will still be paying for it. |
