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| MrWeb | Posted – 6/4/2007 11:07:46 AM | show profile | email poster Have you experienced the Landmark Forum? If you have, I'd love to know your opinion before I plunked down $510. I went to the free intro seminar and was impressed, but still, the constant hard-sell approach turned me off a bit. Can it help me discover my dream career? |
| Redacted2008 | Posted – 6/4/2007 1:43:30 PM | show profile I knew some people who went in for it, and it struck me as a cult. |
| questoo1 | Posted – 6/4/2007 2:52:44 PM | show profile not knowing a thing about it, I took a look at their website and it looks like a scam. all the website is say what a profound effect it will have on your life, but never says what it actually is. |
| Village Gal | Posted – 6/4/2007 4:18:09 PM | show profile Yes Landmark Forum has elements of a cult. It is a revamped version of EST. Hard sell is putting it mildly. I know someone who took it. After one class, there's pressure to take more. |
| ManhattanMatt | Posted – 6/4/2007 8:30:28 PM | show profile RUN AWAY AS FAST AS YOU CAN. I went to a few of their seminars and it IS, in fact, a cult. I have several friends who got trapped in the Forum ... their personalities completely changed (and NOT for the better). Luckily, they all eventually escaped. |
| ConfidentDesigner | Posted – 6/4/2007 8:53:57 PM | show profile YES...RUN FAST! I know someone who got sucked in and ended up losing her home! |
| DQ102 | Posted – 6/5/2007 3:39:04 PM | show profile It is a new version of EST, and they will keep suckering you in to spend more and more money on classes for self-improvement. You're better off relying on your network of friends and family for emotional support. It's free! |
| ManhattanMatt | Posted – 6/5/2007 9:13:00 PM | show profile It's not just "suckering" people ... The way they get to their target demographic (upwardly mobile professionals) is by subconsciously appealing to their work ethic and emotionally blackmailing them. They convince you that you NEED their continued "education", and if you STOP, you are a *loser* and a *failure* ... and that you're ultimately giving up on your dreams and goals: "So you really DON'T want to be a better mother/father/lawyer/etc." or "So you really have no problem giving up on that better life for your kids' future", etc. |
| brainfry | Posted – 6/5/2007 10:44:33 PM | show profile Yes, get away fast I looked into it when someone was encouraging a relative of mine to take the course. What I found was pretty scary. Lots of warnings and horrible stories online about extreme pressure tactics and a voluntary deprogramming of the students so they can imprint their crazy ideas. Basically, the students just end up repeating everything they are told and end sounding like some kinds of EST zombies. Seriously creeepy. |
| keltoi2 | Posted – 6/6/2007 12:38:49 AM | show profile Another Vote for RUN, Don't Walk, Away From LF Got dragged unknowingly to a "meeting" of Landmark in mid-Manhattan about 8 years ago by an acquaintance "for support". First thing they do is identify and isolate all the newbies, taking them away to different rooms for high-pressure one-on-one sales pitches. It's totally a Werner Erhard zombie cult created after EST was run outta town. It preys on insecurities and insecure people, zeroing in on your weaknesses from the start. As others have noted, they start with a few classes, then weekends, then more weekends, but you're never quite "healed" enough to leave (and stop shelling out $$$). I walked out without signing a thing, which they told me meant I wanted to continue being a "failure" and wasn't serious about improving myself. But they were wrong, I felt smarter the moment I walked out their door. |
| becca_4u_2000 | Posted – 6/19/2007 9:25:26 AM | show profile Maybe don't run Well I understand where people are coming from as far as this looking like a cult. but being I took the Forum as well as the Advanced course and a couple of seminars, I also assist, I will tell you this. take away the sales aspect... this education does make a difference and no one NEEDS it, its just another way of dealing with life. For some people it has made a huge difference, others, eh maybe not, but the point is it gives you tools to sort things out and take on things in your life as if your life depends on it. I think its completely how you take it on. If you take it on as a skeptic trying to make it be this scary thing or cult, thats what it will be, but if you go in with an open mind, I believe you will get some interesting things out of. just a thought that might interest you. |
| dribbledrive1 | Posted – 6/19/2007 10:16:56 AM | show profile I went to one of their intro things a number of years ago. They really try to hard sell you. I've only know two people who were involved with it; one was a total loser and the other nice but gullible, the kind who took advice from telephone psychics. |
| Arch711 | Posted – 7/23/2007 1:24:52 AM | show profile Landmark Yes, Landmark is exactly the thing to help you discover your dream career if your dreem career is selling swamp land |
| keltoi2 | Posted – 7/23/2007 2:18:04 PM | show profile So MrWeb, did you go or no? |
| Bleak Spouse | Posted – 7/23/2007 7:37:50 PM | show profile If anyone needs spiritual healing for their dog I can do it over the phone for $510. |
| sue ellen mischke | Posted – 7/24/2007 6:21:39 PM | show profile Just like Toastmasters and Willow Creek... Yuck. I hate people trying to brainwash other people. Grrr. |
