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| seeattleme | Posted – 7/9/2007 3:25:21 PM | show profile Anyone wanna take a guess at what mag will get the plug next? Seventeen? marie Claire? Money magazine? |
| sue ellen mischke | Posted – 7/9/2007 5:38:29 PM | show profile Fitness. |
| WordyBird | Posted – 7/9/2007 6:03:54 PM | show profile Fitness? Really? Meredith always struck me as a very good company, one with sound financial and marketing strategy. I've never heard anything but good things about working there, too. But maybe that mag isn't pulling its weight, though. Odd, but they posted openings for a number of positions a few months ago. A lot of it was on-line stuff, if memory serves me correctly. Maybe they're thinking of moving to on-line only. |
| sue ellen mischke | Posted – 7/9/2007 6:10:36 PM | show profile I was just guessing... |
| Bleak Spouse | Posted – 7/9/2007 6:17:41 PM | show profile People magazine is the next to fold. |
| seeattleme | Posted – 7/9/2007 6:21:31 PM | show profile People? Huh. Wow. Death to People really would signal death to print. |
| seeattleme | Posted – 7/9/2007 6:29:57 PM | show profile My money would be on Seventeen, if not for the fact that Hearst is so stubborn about their in-house hires. That magazine is anemic. Money is now Cosmo for goldiggers, the read of those in denial about their financial state. marie Claire, the rumors are pretty persistent. But I can see how People would go. It's become irrelevant. But then haven't they all. Fitness has been on life support for months. I 'd be sad to see it go because its been so darn scrappy. |
| aoscruggs | Posted – 7/9/2007 11:04:32 PM | show profile People isn't going anywhere It makes 40 percent of the revenue for its group. |
| seeattleme | Posted – 7/10/2007 1:11:21 AM | show profile 40 per cent? still? and with Us weekly and all that other trash kicking its butt? I thought In Style was the moneymaker. |
| The phashionista | Posted – 7/10/2007 1:34:22 AM | show profile I could see Marie Claire being the next to go. Never fond of it under Lesley Jane Seymour. Really don't read it under the leadership of Joanna Coles. |
| Bleak Spouse | Posted – 7/10/2007 1:56:31 AM | show profile I wish People would go away, along with all of Time Warner. |
| seeattleme | Posted – 7/10/2007 2:30:18 AM | show profile I agree. If not for the pretty pictures, sports illustrated would evaporate. and time. good lord. what exactly DOES it tell us that we can't get from CNN ? |
| UrbanMuse | Posted – 8/13/2007 4:55:53 PM | show profile Has anyone heard how they are handling subscriptions? I emailed Jane's CS and got some generic autoresponse about we "regret that the August issue was the last issue of Jane." Have any subscribers or contributors heard if subscriptions are being transferred to another title? ------ www.UrbanMuseWriter.com |
| Chamsah | Posted – 8/13/2007 5:14:19 PM | show profile Predictions Did anyone see the piece about the website magazinedeathpool? It was posted on MB's home page a few days ago. No one is sure who is behind the site but this guy has an eerie crystal ball... he's been right about the shuttering of almost every mag. He did a GREAT piece on Entertainment Weekly, which I don't believe will fold anytime soon. (There's another weekly in line ahead of it...) He dissected a March issue, proving that all of their original reporting could be found elsewhere on the web for FREE. He provided citations, links and everything. It was shocking, since I always thought EW was so ahead of the curve. The web is kicking everyone's ass. Check it out: www.magazinedeathpool.com |
| ChicaMadrid | Posted – 8/13/2007 6:12:51 PM | show profile People will morph I'm sure People will shift its focus before it dies. It has a lot of readership and it's already focusing more on celebrity news than it had in the past. I think it will be Marie Claire. I used to love it and don't read it anymore. But I really don't see a death of print mags. I love my online, but there is something divine about flipping through a women's glossy on an airplane or at the salon. |
| lise2177 | Posted – 8/13/2007 7:50:06 PM | show profile Bleak Spouse, why the venom towards Time Warner? It's a great place to work from everything I know and have heard. People AND In Style are the big moneymakers for Time Inc.....If and when they go, thats when we'll know we're really in trouble. I can see Fitness being next, sad as that would be. Then again, who ever really knows these days? That's whats the scariest of all. |
| janbrady1 | Posted – 8/14/2007 9:53:40 AM | show profile "and time. good lord. what exactly DOES it tell us that we can't get from CNN ?" Heh. CNN is Time Warner, too. As stated above, both People AND InStyle are huge moneymakers for Time Inc. I don't see how People can be irrelevant when celebrity mags are some of the hottest sellers around these days. And to their credit, they still leave in some of those downer "real people" stories too to maintain some journalistic integrity. Fitness has always had issues, since its time with G+J. Don't know that it's gotten better since being sold to Meredith. As for working with Meredith, they can be incredibly cheap. If you work there, "sound business plan" often translates into "penny pinching." |
| zftcg | Posted – 8/14/2007 10:40:22 AM | show profile Anyone who thinks People is in any danger of folding obviously knows nothing about the magazine industry. It is the most profitable magazine in human history, and there is no other magazine out there that has anything close to its balance of newsstand sales and subscriptions. granitegirl, on what basis do you say that Us Weekly is kicking its ass? People sells far more on the newsstand (UW isn't even No. 2), and UW's subscription numbers are a joke. Personally, I think this whole notion of UW being the main competitor to People is nothing more than Janice Min's PR skills. UW doesn't know what it wants to be. It claims to be younger and more gossipy, but then it also tries to be a credible source and charge as much as People. IMO, the biggest print competitor is In Touch, since it attacks People on its biggest vulnerability (price) As somebody said upthread, the day People folds is the day everyone in the magazine industry should just pack it in. And for the record, no, I don't work there. |
| janbrady1 | Posted – 8/14/2007 2:48:33 PM | show profile Yeah, People is, no hyperbole, the biggest magazine ever. It is a class above US Weekly and the rest. (And no, I don't work there either.) Complete cash cow, even to this day. But really came on to say that I read that dissection of EW on magazinedeathpool.com and disagree with some of the points. Maybe EW doesn't break news, per se (and to be honest, that's not necessarily why I go there in the first place), and yes, you can get reviews elsewhere on the Web, but reviews of that caliber? Not really. Anyone can slap a CD review up on their blog, but EW does employ terrific critics. |
| seeattleme | Posted – 8/14/2007 4:57:46 PM | show profile Right Jan, but it's a magazine, and CNN is TV. SOOOOOO, my thinking--and granted, I don't have the Time Inc or Time Warner "DNA"--is that there are things Time could should do differently. like better writing about events rather than coverage of them. STories from middle America and beyoond instead of stories about them. Existential analysis of Brangelina (Sure, I'd read it). Reviews--not just coverage --of how ludicrous the new fashions are. What goes into the making of a health study and not just what the study says-- America media is owned by arguable three or four companies. That doesn't mean Cosmogirl shouldn't be different from Seventeen, that SI coverage of sports should not be different from Time's coverage of sports (And Time should do more, BTW), that Oprah magazine shouldn't be different from Marie Claire...etc etc... in other words, duh. I guess, in short, I don't really get your point. |
| janbrady1 | Posted – 8/14/2007 8:06:57 PM | show profile Sorry, I was just being nitpicky. The poster above you said they wished Time Warner would go away, and you agreed, and said that instead of reading Time people could just go to CNN, implying that CNN is a better or equal source of info. My point was that, since CNN is a Time Warner company too, those people would just be staying within the company. Just making a (not-so-)funny observation. In any case, I agree that Time could stand to be improved. I remember when it was must-read material growing up--my family used to devour it every week when we got it in the mailbox. Then again, we didn't have the Internet back then... |
| seeattleme | Posted – 8/14/2007 9:13:31 PM | show profile Time Warner should just go away because it's fucking evil. |
| seeattleme | Posted – 8/14/2007 9:20:38 PM | show profile I have to say, I find Time very readable. The piece on Schawrzenegger and Bloomberg was A-1. The piece by Anita Hamilton trashing Suze Ormon and all the finance bimbos giving women advice on their rampant (nonexistent, as Hamilton pointed out) spending was imperative reading. They've had some other top stories, but they're politic-obsessed. They need to do more like-written stories on other stuff that matters. The Virgina tech masssacre story was good, too. Stuff like that. It doesn't have to be on the Internet to be well-written, it can analyze events that have happened, and emerging trends, etc. It doesn't have to break news to be news. But they don't get that. They're still asking the Web if they can please have their dicks back. |
| j.hodl | Posted – 8/15/2007 6:04:51 PM | show profile Power to the People! People Magazine will never go away. Go to any medical waiting room and you'll see tons of copies of People, and being read by the people waiting too. If People folded, what would people undergoing kidney dialysis do for the four hours if not for issues of People? Heavens knows that as favor to a relative working at one kidney dialysis center, I brought in recent copies of other magazines (Time, Newsweek, Sports Illustrated, Consumers Digest, Readers Digest, Real Simple, etc.) but the dialysis patients grab up all the copies of People. |
| Chamsah | Posted – 8/15/2007 6:50:29 PM | show profile What's up with People Calm down everyone! ONE person said People would fold... One clueless person. It's not going anywhere. There are other weeklies in far more trouble.... The celeb weeklies will start to canabalize each other eventually, just like the teen mags, the laddie mags and the gadget/soft-core porm mags. Glut the market and after several years readers, get bored and stop reading. Then one by one they shut down. Actually, it will happen a lot faster because the web now makes it harder for any magazine to compete, mind you one that breaks what America so calls news. Why wait an ENTIRE week to find out if celebunot Nicole Richie has gained preggers weight when TMZ has it online rightthisverysecond.... Like, OMG, I better check it out right now.... |
