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| Nikongirl | Posted – 8/28/2007 1:31:15 PM | show profile >>>So mentioning something once means I?m obsessed? If you had only mentioned once, I would not have brought it up, you mention it all the time, go back and read some of your posts. >>>Do you always have to act like a child ,and throw fits and call people names?<<< I am not the one acting like a child here, and I did not throw a fit, I pointed something out to you. You, on the other hand, are an incessant name caller on this board. You call anyone who speaks with some intelligence names?your favourite, Liberal, as if Liberal is a bad word. I am proud to say I am not only a Liberal with a capitol L, I am a left-wing liberal at that! Do you not think this has haunted Kennedy throughout his entire life? >>>The way him and his family has lead their lives, no I don't think it has haunted him.<<< Who are you to sit in judgment of what is in a persons heart or mind? Are you saying that YOU have NEVER, EVER done something that you regretted, that you are sorry for, that you have not made ANY mistakes in your life? Are YOU God? >>>What exactly would you like him to do? Plead guilty to leaving the scene of an accident and plead to vehicular manslaughter.<<< I believe that the trial is long over and if you feel so strongly about this why not stop whining about it on this board and DO something about it Mr. High and Mighty... *Judge not that you may not be judged; for with what judgment you judge, you shall be judged, and with what measure you measure, it shall be measured to you again. Matthew 7:2 |
| ManhattanMatt | Posted – 8/28/2007 2:56:38 PM | show profile Robsemail ... "But what the senator did certainly is hideous, if for no other reason than the potential for someone, particularly a child, to walk in on the act." That's only your OPINION. And what does a child have to do with anything? These acts take place behind CLOSED (stall) doors. Just tell your children not to bust into occupied stalls. I find it bewildering how these self-righteous types always trot out the "OH BUT THE CHILDREN!" argument any time they try to impose their bigoted moralistic attitudes on the rest of us. These people who are so horrified of the idea that a child might see a naked penis have no problem taking THEIR kids to see "R"-rated movies with plenty of physical violence and death. WTF??? |
| Iron Eagle | Posted – 8/28/2007 3:28:09 PM | show profile Manhatt - I don't thing Rose was trying to impose morals on you - she just pointed out her dislike for sordid toilet monkeys. I'm sure if Craig needed a man that bad he could find one in a bar. Now, if you're a fan of Craig's edgy kind of thrillirama then so be it. Wear a body condom! |
| Olbypocrisy | Posted – 8/28/2007 4:00:44 PM | show profile "Who are you to sit in judgment of what is in a persons heart or mind? Are you saying that YOU have NEVER, EVER done something that you regretted, that you are sorry for, that you have not made ANY mistakes in your life? Are YOU God?" I can say i have never driven drunk,i can say i've never driven into a body of water,swim to land, left poor Mary Jo to die, walked home to take a nap. I can say i've never had a waitress sandwich either. Who are you to judge Larry Criag? Who are you to judge someone a predator?? |
| Iron Eagle | Posted – 8/28/2007 5:00:05 PM | show profile Just say Craig's ridiculous press conference. Why can't the guy admit to having a jones for sweet meat. |
| Iron Eagle | Posted – 8/28/2007 5:14:57 PM | show profile Listen idiot - Barney Frank didn't run anything out of his house. I hope he reads your post Olby - that's slander. Larry Craig just lied through his teeth. He's toast! One less fraudulent bible thumper caught in a blasphemous situations. Why don't you perverts just go away and let life take a natural course - leave women out of your anti-abortion bullying - keep religion out of politics and let Republicans be as gay as they choose. |
| Nikongirl | Posted – 8/28/2007 5:35:11 PM | show profile Police report: Senator signaled desire for 'lewd conduct Sen. Larry Craig peered through a crack in a restroom stall door for two minutes and made gestures suggesting he wanted to engage in lewd conduct, according to the police officer who arrested him. Craig's blue eyes were clearly visible through the crack in the door, Minneapolis-St. Paul International Airport police Sgt. Dave Karsnia wrote in the report he filed on the June 11 incident. Craig would look down at his hands, fidget with his fingers, and then look through the crack into my stall again, Karsnia wrote in documents accompanying the arrest report. Karsnia wrote that when the person occupying the stall beside him left, Craig entered it and blocked the door with his rolling suitcase. My experience has shown that individuals engaging in lewd conduct use their bags to block the view from the front of their stall," the officer said in his report. The senator then tapped his right foot, a signal used by persons wishing to engage in lewd conduct, Karsnia wrote, and Craig ran his left hand several times underneath the partition dividing the stalls. The presence of others did not seem to deter Craig as he moved his right foot so that it touched the side of my left foot which was within my stall area," the officer's report said. Craig also told police that he had reached down to the floor to pick up a piece of paper, the officer wrote. It should be noted that there was not a piece of paper on the bathroom floor, nor did Craig pick up a piece of paper, Karsnia wrote. After Craig ran his hand underneath the partition wall three times, Karsnia held his police identification down by the floor so the senator could see it, the report said. In his petition to enter a guilty plea, Craig admitted that he "engaged in (physical) conduct which I knew or should have known tended to arouse alarm or resentment." He also was required to stipulate in the statement that he would make no claim that I am innocent of the charge to which I am entering a plea of not guilty, the document said. Craig, Idaho's senior senator, is married with three grown children and nine grandchildren. His seat is up for re-election in 2008. He has supported a federal constitutional amendment banning same-sex marriage, telling his colleagues that it was important for us to stand up now and protect traditional marriage, which is under attack by a few unelected judges and litigious activists. In 1996, Craig also voted in favor of the Defense of Marriage Act, which denies federal recognition to same-sex marriages and prevents states from being forced to recognize the marriages of gay and lesbian couples legally performed in other states. Craig also has opposed expanding the federal hate crimes law to cover offenses motivated by anti-gay bias and, in 1996, voted against a bill that would have outlawed employment discrimination based on sexual orientation, which failed by a single vote in the Senate. What a hypocrite! Hey Olby, chew on this for awhile...the police officer had NO IDEA exactly WHO was in the stall, did not know it was a US Senator, just another scummy guy lookin for sex in PUBLIC places. Oh BTW he was one of yours, a Republican, family man. I am pretty sure his wife has been humiliated enough by now. She looked a complete disaster when she stood by him in his I AM NOT GAY NOR HAVE I EVER BEEN GAY speech.....he is gay. ### |
| mb_ pip | Posted – 8/28/2007 5:35:45 PM | show profile | email poster OI! Can we please stay on topic? Over the history of history, a deluge of Democrats, a collection of conservatives, and oodles and oodles of friends, Romans, and countrymen have committed crimes. They're not all up for discussion in this thread, particularly not in the TV News Corner forum. Technically this whole thread belongs in the "Current Events" forum, so let's keep some idea of what we're doing here. |
| Nikongirl | Posted – 8/28/2007 5:41:44 PM | show profile and just to sweeten the pot, let us not forget the by now infamous statements by Bill Clinton when he went on national television and looked us all in the eye and declared oh so sincerely.... I Did NOT have sex with that woman. Of course he had sex with that woman. For me this is not really about Republicans or Democrats. It is about those elected by the people to speak for the people and conduct themselves in a honest and moral fashion....at least while they are representing their constituents. |
| Iron Eagle | Posted – 8/28/2007 6:52:27 PM | show profile Craig was just on TV - can he stay? |
| robsemail | Posted – 8/29/2007 3:01:02 AM | show profile "I find it bewildering how these self-righteous types always trot out the "OH BUT THE CHILDREN!" argument any time they try to impose their bigoted moralistic attitudes on the rest of us." I find it bewildering that anyone thinks it's merely "inappropriate" for a US Senator to have sex in public. Like it's no worse than wearing plaid with stripes. Yeah, I care enough about children that I don't think they should be subjected, even accidentally, to watching one of these restroom republicans performing oral sex. It's sad that anyone would characterize such concern as "bigoted and moralistic". But such is the state of republican morality these days. |
| chucho | Posted – 8/29/2007 4:44:06 AM | show profile "Restroom Republicans" - nice alliteration. Three makes a trend. Has there been two or more than two Republican conservatives caught pulling a George Michael? I couldn't find other Republicans who were caught asking undercover cops to engage in homosexual intercourse in public bathrooms, but I do recall Matthew Glavin, who had Clinton dis-barred in the state of Arkansas, was twice charged with public indecency at Arkansas' Chatahoochee River Park (squeal like a pig, boy, squeal like a pig!), a popular resort for "outdoor same-sex cruising". Glavin's Southeastern Legal Foundation is an anti-gay crusader in the south. What do you have to do to get charged TWICE at a popular gay cruising resort? Most of the Republican sex scandals seem to involve heterosexual extramarital affairs and other stuff I wouldn't actually find extremely objectionable for political leaders and partisan activists. Congressman Ed Shrock (92% approval rating from the Christian Coalition), coauthor of the marriage amendment: busted for soliciting for gay sex and subsequently did not run for a third term for his Virginia district. Utah Rep. Brent Parker also wanted some hot man love: busted for soliciting for gay sex from an undercover cop. (For the record: I oppose entrapment of this nature, but since Republicans like that heavy handed police undercover entrapment stuff, it's good to see some of them get burned by it.) But there does seem to be a lot of Lolita Sugardaddies in the Republican pitch. One of my favorites in Minnesotan businessman and gubernatorial candidate Jon Grunseth, admitting that he "made some mistakes" after it was revealed that he went swimming in the nude with four underage girls, including his daughter. Apparently he got a little touchy-feely with one of the girls, presumably not his daughter. Ya, ya, Dems are libertines, too. But since conservatives think Dems are heathens anyway and take the moral high ground, they should perhaps not be doing the same damn thing. |
| questoo1 | Posted – 8/29/2007 7:03:08 AM | show profile This guy is so repressed its actually sad. Anyone with gadar have a vibe on him? |
| Olbypocrisy | Posted – 8/29/2007 7:40:04 AM | show profile Since George Michael is a famous liberal, we know liberals led the way in this area. |
| Iron Eagle | Posted – 8/29/2007 7:56:34 AM | show profile George Michael's is a famous liberal? Olby when will you get over the fact that liberals are virile men and women unlike those weak bathroom sneaking fascist Republicans. |
| Dead Air | Posted – 8/29/2007 8:06:30 AM | show profile Is George Michael registered to vote? I think he is a British citizen. :) |
| Olbypocrisy | Posted – 8/29/2007 8:19:22 AM | show profile George Michael is also a liberal.Did you miss all the Bush bashing he does? |
| Olbypocrisy | Posted – 8/29/2007 8:24:59 AM | show profile 'Olby when will you get over the fact that liberals are virile men and women' Yeah Reid and Pelosi are really virile. |
| Dead Air | Posted – 8/29/2007 8:30:24 AM | show profile Olby, do you think it is only 'liberals' that bash the President? |
| UGoGirl | Posted – 8/29/2007 9:38:31 AM | show profile I also think this is sad. This guy appears to be gay or bisexual and has to hide it from everyone, including himself. If only he could have just accepted himself... |
| Nikongirl | Posted – 8/29/2007 11:07:39 AM | show profile What is most sad is that his family is devastated, imagine the pain and suffering his children and 9 grandchildren must be feeling. Did you see his poor wife standing by his side during his speech yesterday. She should have taken that opportunity to give him a smack and leave him right there on live, national TV, instead of standing there humiliated yet again by the gay allegations that keep cropping up over the years. If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, by God, it is a duck! I agree that the problem is not that he is gay, the problem is that he is a US Senator inviting strangers to have sex with him in a public washroom. Of course it is the lack of tolerance for gay and lesbians in our society that creates these problems in the first place. As a matter of fact, it is exactly people such as himself who make sure that society stays homophobic. |
| Nikongirl | Posted – 8/29/2007 11:25:48 AM | show profile The nails are already in the coffin....bits and bites Sen. Larry Craig, is losing support among conservatives and Republicans in his home state of Idaho. One conservative leader, though, was unequivocal: I believe he should resign because I believe character is an extremely important qualification for public service, said Bryan Fischer of the Idaho Values Alliance. And I believe the senator, by his own admission, has acknowledged that he has fallen short of the standard that we should expect from public servants. Senate GOP leaders in Washington called Tuesday for an Ethics Committee investigation of the Idaho Republican's June arrest at the Minneapolis-St. Paul International Airport in Minnesota. He's disappointed the American people, former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, for whose presidential campaign Craig was a Senate liaison, told CNBC on Tuesday night. Craig has stepped down from his role in the campaign. It reminds us that people who are elected to public office continue to disappoint, Romney said. And they somehow think that if they vote the right way on issues of significance or they can speak a good game that we'll just forgive and forget. And Sen. John McCain of Arizona, another Republican candidate for president, called the case disgraceful during a Tuesday appearance on NBC's Tonight Show With Jay Leno, according to The Associated Press The general sentiment among Craig's fellow Idaho Republicans who talked to CNN's Dana Bash in Boise was that Craig's explanation is not credible. One influential Republican who has known the senator for decades said that he watched Craig's statement with a group of party movers and shakers and they concluded that the lawmaker's political career is over. Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Kentucky, told Craig on Tuesday that the leaders of his party were calling for an ethics investigation into what they termed a serious matter, a Senate Republican leadership aide said. The aide said one factor in the decision was the arresting officer's assertion that Craig produced a business card identifying himself as a U.S. senator after his arrest and allegedly said, What do you think about that? |
| slamp | Posted – 8/29/2007 11:31:38 AM | show profile I HOPE ALL YOU HYPOCRITICAL LIBERAL BASHERS WILL FEEL SORRY FOR A LIBERAL AND HIS FAMILY TOMORROW WHAT THEY DO. I REALLY DON'T CARE ABOUT WHAT PEOPLE DO WITH THEIR PRIVATE LIVES, BUT WHEN YOU PRETEND TO BE HOLIER THAN THOU. YOU BETTER DO AS YOU PREACH. MOST LIBERALS DON'T COME OUT TELLING PEOPLE HOW THEY SHOULD LIVE THEIR LIVES. SO, NEXT TIME A LIBERAL POLITICIAN GETS CAUGHT DOING ANYTHING WRONG. I HOPE YOU WIIL BE SO UNDERSTANDING. NOW WE KNOW THAT WRONG DOING APPLIES TO EVERY HUMAN BEING, NOT JUST "LIBERALS". SUPPORT HIM AND HIS FAMILY THE SAME WAY YOU ARE SUPPORTING THE CONSERVATIVES. |
| UGoGirl | Posted – 8/29/2007 11:57:26 AM | show profile DUDE WHAT'S WITH THE CAPS? DOES THE SIZE OF YOUR LETTERS COMPENSATE FOR ... Oh forget it... |
| robsemail | Posted – 8/29/2007 12:19:51 PM | show profile "I REALLY DON'T CARE ABOUT WHAT PEOPLE DO WITH THEIR PRIVATE LIVES" Nor do I. I'm a liberal, by the way, and I don't recall having discussed anyone's private life in this thread. We're talking about Senator Craig's sex life. Senator Craig conducts at least part of his sex life in public. Haven't you heard? If the Senator has sex with his wife, I would assume he does so in private. That would account for the fact that no one has discussed it here. It being private and all, there's really nothing to discuss. What we're talking about in this thread is the Senator's public sex life. |
