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Topic: This site is NYC-centric!
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| ConfidentDesigner | Posted – 9/7/2007 10:21:19 PM | show profile This site sucks for any jobs outside of NYC. There have GOT to be jobs outside of the metropolis! Hello? Denver? Boulder? Seattle? Portland? Is there at least a comparable board like mediabistro for us "to the left of the Hudson"? If so, please direct! Thanks! Landlocked in Boulder. |
| ConfidentDesigner | Posted – 9/7/2007 10:23:31 PM | show profile might I add... I've absolutley NO desire to move back East. Been there. Done that. Love Boulder. Need to stay here. Thanks! -Landlocked |
| Cyrus | Posted – 9/7/2007 10:47:59 PM | show profile Employers from other areas don't post as many jobs here because there are fewer readers from those areas to see them. It's really quite simple. ------ Cyrus Afzali Astoria Communications www.astoriacomm.com |
| SPF 30 | Posted – 9/7/2007 11:05:06 PM | show profile Ah, Boulder is an awesome place. I have friends who live near there. Do you know of any good companies in or around Boulder for a girl with grammatical leanings? (Boy, do I feel lazy asking that question; I guess that's what Google's for.) |
| writesonwater | Posted – 9/8/2007 5:33:29 AM | show profile | email poster Cyrus is exactly right. Recommend using other methods for finding the publishers n the cities you want them in and then contacting them with a resume and a cover letter of interest. Remember, jobs are like icebergs -- there's more of them below the surface than the few you see advertised. Getting those takes either knowing people (and that's not as easy to do something about as it sounds, is it?) or getting people to know you via assertive contacts. You need to find out who and where they are, make courteous contact. I have found a couple jobs just this way. Good luck! |
| writesonwater | Posted – 9/8/2007 5:34:50 AM | show profile By the way, I just googled Denver book publisher and came up with a batch of entries. Good luck! |
| chucho | Posted – 9/8/2007 9:29:11 AM | show profile Ah, Boulder: the land of pot-smoking speed walkers, mountain bikers and people who like to camp and watch college football. It is quite beautiful if you don't mind six-month winters. I find that journalismjobs.com and poynter's job board have more positions listed for big, square states. You're right: MB is unapologetically NYC-centric. That's kinda how it all started. |
| ConfidentDesigner | Posted – 9/8/2007 11:14:44 AM | show profile Boy, what a reputation Boulder has! Haven't noticed many pot smokers around but yes, we all like to take care of ourselves here. Lots of cycling, running, hiking, etc. I think it has to do with the amazing climate and proximity to the mountains. 6 month winters? Well, if it keeps the throngs from moving here, keep believing that. Actually, there are 300 days of sunshine and the average temp in January is 45° with abundant sunshine...but you just keep believing we have 6 month winters, if ya like:) |
| UGoGirl | Posted – 9/8/2007 11:17:39 AM | show profile I visisted Boulder recently and LOVED it. They've got everything. Except water. Water may be an issue.... |
| Janetblueyes | Posted – 9/8/2007 12:51:59 PM | show profile I loved Boulder so much, I applied to grad school at the U of Colorado. Didn't get in, but that hasn't soured my opinion of the town. The Maroon Bells are amazing. I've been in love with Colorado for years. |
| betsy balega | Posted – 9/8/2007 1:52:29 PM | show profile | email poster Yes, and we ski in July in Canada No need for MB to apologize for focusing on NYC. Isn't that where MB is located? Just my uneducated guess. Every state and province has media jobs. You'll find the right fit, and know it when you do. You will feel it in your soul. Now i sound like one of those damn snowboarders in Vancouver. Now THAT'S where the pot smokers are. (We love ya, Vancouver. You Left Coasters Rock). Betsy Balega Producer/Host Tuning in with Betsy http://www.blogtalkradio.com/betsy |
| ConfidentDesigner | Posted – 9/8/2007 7:07:36 PM | show profile Janet: The Maroon Bells are in Aspen, clear across the state from Boulder. I just moved back to Boulder from Aspen. Much better. Much more realistic. Hey, CU's a tough school to get into. Right up there witht he Ivy leagues, I hear. Try again. You never know. Don't let it sour you on the town though. |
| questoo1 | Posted – 9/8/2007 7:47:23 PM | show profile Did it ever occur to you that there might not be that many journalism jobs outside a handful of major cities? My guess is if you work at a newspaper or magazine in the boulder area, the turnover is much less, therefore less vacancies. Check mediacabin.com . I'm sure there are tons of open positions in the yukon territory |
| Janetblueyes | Posted – 9/8/2007 9:27:08 PM | show profile Oops sorry! The Maroon Bells are indeed in Aspen. |
| aoscruggs | Posted – 9/9/2007 12:30:30 AM | show profile NYC-centricity Isn't this a website? Doesn't that mean the entire world of writers is a potential audience? I, too, am annoyed by the NYC focus, especially since Mediabistro is marketing its membership far and wide. I wonder how the advertising sales staff is describing this readership. I'd love to see this site's demographics. |
| ManhattanMatt | Posted – 9/9/2007 3:15:35 AM | show profile Since when ... ...were there media jobs outside of New York City? |
| Mag Girl | Posted – 9/9/2007 10:51:26 AM | show profile Many, many, many people outside of NYC read this site. How do you think they have all of those socials in so many cities? I've lived in several states, and come across people at every job who use this site. |
| writesonwater | Posted – 9/9/2007 12:28:49 PM | show profile | email poster Writesonwater weighs in from the Hinterlands One of the things you have to consider is that employment ads (and classes, to a lesser extent) drive the sales on this board. I know in editorial we like to pretend sales don't exist, but in fact, that's what tells us what size of news hole we have to fill, right? Editorial interest follows advertising dollar and audience interest. THe Newyorkcentricity of this board isn't a surprise. America is so very far-flung, the landscape itself is to blame. For better or for worse, the Big Apple is just that. Big. Just look at the city's footprint -- fly into La Guardia and see how that skyline of Manhattan and surrounds goes on and on and on. The list of publishers also goes on and on. Compare that to Dallas, which you can take in at a single fly-by in a chopper. Depending on what level they're hiring at, many employers these days don't pay relo fees or even buy tickets for prospects to be checked out hire from within their state or region. In those instances, many will advertise regionally, or wait like venus fly-traps for employees to fall into their grasp in the natural way -- submitted resumes, someone someone knows, someone in driving distance, etc. I went on journalismjobs.com (NOT based in New York) to see how where THEIR jobs were concentrated. New York had about 2-3 times as many jobs as any other state. The next tier of states: Virginia. Pennsylvania. Texas. Florida. Each with maybe a third of the New York posts. Most states had anywhere from 5 percent to 15 percent the number of jobs as New York. However, when you factor in MAJOR MAGAZINES, which is generally where the top money is in mainstream freelancing which doesn't have to advertise because everyone wants a piece of that per-word fee (not counting white paper or elite trade pubs), the vast majority of those are in New York. Factor in the major publishing houses, which would be a ditto, and you have an almost irresistible pull to cater to New York. If you browse the regional threads listed way down below here, you will see generally very little action on most of them. New York is a different matter -- there's just a greater concentration of jobs and writers and everything. So make it work for you. What I hear from writers unemployed in New York is that they feel like fish in a VERY big pond. Here in the hinterlands, that's our ace in the hole: someone who becomes known at a paper or magazine in Portland Oregon or Portland Maine has a chance of standing out, being remembered, being hired somewhere else locally -- the smaller the pond, the bigger the fish. |
| candylilacs | Posted – 9/9/2007 1:37:47 PM | show profile Not in NYC I see a fair bit of SF postings here. It goes in spurts, but sometimes I will see 5-6 at a time. And not all the jobs are in NYC, many are in the suburbs like New Jersey or Connecticut (sorry, kids, I don't know what else to call them.) And while there's a lot in New York, there's some everywhere, too. As for Boulder, too many self-satisfied white upper-class yupsters to make it decent for me. It's like living in a much more annoying Portland (Oregon, that is.) I'd take the grit, crime and color of Denver any day. But if you want to live there, get a job with the college. ------ http://www.mswritesguide.blogspot.com |
| chucho | Posted – 9/10/2007 7:53:07 AM | show profile @ConfidentDesigner: >> 6 month winters? Well, if it keeps the throngs from moving here, keep believing that. Actually, there are 300 days of sunshine and the average temp in January is 45° with abundant sunshine... << I've been to Boulder several times in my life. I recall getting stuck in snow drift as I was approaching Boulder in the early 90s. It was April (spring break, in fact). The average HIGH for January is 46. The average low is 21. The average low is below freezing FIVE months out of the year. The average low below 40 for six months. The average low is below 60 year 'round. The average high is above 80 (but below 90) for three months out of the year. To many this is probably appealing, but don't exaggerate the "mildness" of January by saying the average high is the average temperature. http://www.go-colorado.com/Boulder/Weather/ http://www.weather.com/weather/wxclimatology/monthly/graph/USCO0038?from=tenDay_bottomnav_undeclared I love Boulder, it is indeed very pretty, but it's too cold for me. And the politics of Colorado sucks. Tancredo and everyone who votes for him are Redneck Nazis. I think it's required that every male citizen own a concha belt and every woman must own turquoise jewelry. And you get bonus points for Native American-themed rustic interior decoration in your tract home with decorative wood support beams. :) OK, maybe not so much in Boulder, but like Austin, you're surrounded at all sides by meat-eatin', God fearin' 'Mericans. Ew. |
| ConfidentDesigner | Posted – 9/11/2007 3:00:26 PM | show profile Gee...now THERE'S an open-minded observation. If that were true, I wouldn't be living here. But, like I say...stay where you are. |
| seeattleme | Posted – 9/11/2007 5:21:12 PM | show profile Writesonwater: MAJOR magazines aren't doing so great. Maybe it's the NYC focus, huh? Maybe that's why the web is KICKING PRINT"S ASS> |
| SPF 30 | Posted – 9/11/2007 6:06:22 PM | show profile Wow, I've never seen so many of you have a bad day at once. |
| observer | Posted – 9/11/2007 6:12:40 PM | show profile back to your question... my co-worker, a graphic designer, just moved to colorado from san francisco after posting her resume and portfolio on the creative hotlist (www.creativehotlist.com.) if you don't allready, check it out. good luck |
| ConfidentDesigner | Posted – 9/11/2007 7:08:58 PM | show profile I do that. Doesn't necessarily get you a job though. Unles one wants to work for $40K/year or under, that is. |
